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Why Doesn't Toyota USA Need A Bailout?
Nietzsche is Dead ^ | 12 Nov 08 | foutsc

Posted on 11/12/2008 11:41:02 AM PST by foutsc

So the Big Three are asking for a government handout... You should write your representatives and ask them this question:

Why are the Big Three going broke and asking for taxpayer money while Toyota USA is expanding?
Ford, GM and Chrysler have become as sclerotic as the liberal states that host them. Like the failed state of Michigan, the Big Three promised goodies to the masses and now they have the gall to ask the American taxpayer to fund their generosity. Note to nanny-state liberals (in government and on corporate boards): It's not generosity when you do it with other people's money!

If you want to get mad, go read this WSJ article about how GM pays people to not work. Speaker Pelosi is worried about excessive executive pay when she should be focusing on excessive executive stupidity.

So why isn't Toyota in trouble? Pro-union folks will tell you it's because down south they are able to exploit their workers. Well, maybe Detroit didn't exploit its workers, but it's now extorting money from the entire country as a reward. Despite what Democrats tell us, our nation does not have one uniform economic policy. Each state and locality employs distinct taxation, employment and business laws that affect employment rates and wages. We can study these various economies to learn what works and what doesn't. People in Illinois, Ohio and Michigan can tell you that things ain't workin' there. Is it President Bush's fault, or is it the fault of corruption, high taxation, and business unfriendly state governments?

Professor Phil Gramm points the finger at dysfunctional state governments:

Business conditions were better in the successful states than in the lagging ones. Capital and labor gravitated to where the burdens were smaller and the opportunities greater.

No one should let Michigan politicians blame their problems solely on the decline of the U.S. auto industry.

Yes, Michigan lost 83,000 auto manufacturing jobs during the past decade and a half, but more than 91,000 new auto manufacturing jobs sprung up in Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Texas.

The facts show that soak the rich policies, over-regulation, and yes, overreaching unions, destroy jobs. States like Ohio and Michigan have only their failed liberal policies to blame. And the same can be said for the welfare queens who run the Big Three: They overpromised and undersold on pensions and benefits. You can pile the goodies sky high, but somebody has to pay the bill. Toyota knows this, as does Texas, Tennessee, and Florida.

Liberal Democrats and the press (but I repeat myself) will be trying to convince you otherwise. Arm yourself against their economic nonsense by going here and reading the entire article on state economies. I also recommend you read everything written by the erudite and highly entertaining economics professor Walter E. Williams. Here is a quote from his web site:

"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop
Walter E. Williams home page: http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/

Gramm Article on State Economieshttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB122126282034130461.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aflcio; automakers; bailout; bho2008; bigthree; cardcheck; chicagomob; chrysler; congress; democrats; economy; environmentalists; ford; gm; hoffa; honda; michigan; nissan; obama; pelosi; reid; seiu; taxes; teamsters; toyota; uaw; unions
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yes, my Nissan Pro4X pickup was built in MS. I love it and this after driving Fords for most of my adult life!


41 posted on 11/12/2008 12:27:08 PM PST by Man from Oz

To: allmost
I'll also note that, in order to promote exports, the Japanese government must (allegedly) keep the yen cheap. This makes it more expensive for a company such as Toyota to build in the United States--if you follow the idea through to its conclusion.

So it's not just cheaper, it's also more expensive.

The operative fact (in the U.S.) is that a company such as Toyota can produce a car with fewer man-hours (unionized or not) than its U.S. counterpart. There is your advantage . . . the exchange rate for the currency is just a smokescreen.

42 posted on 11/12/2008 12:27:09 PM PST by 1rudeboy

To: 6SJ7

My neighbor has a Yaris.
Honestly, I don’t think it would survive a collision with my Wheel Horse garden tractor.


43 posted on 11/12/2008 12:27:11 PM PST by nascarnation

To: 1rudeboy

The unions outlived their purpose decades ago. You seem very intelligent and I’m not sure how to react when you dismiss the exchange rate.


44 posted on 11/12/2008 12:30:25 PM PST by allmost

To: allmost
Currency manipulation is commonplace in Asia. Not the entire cause, but a contributing factor here.

A cheaper Yen makes their purchases in Yen more expensive. How does that help their US operations?

45 posted on 11/12/2008 12:30:30 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)

To: allmost
It’s cheaper for a Japanese company. Like I said.

Math was hard for you in school. LOL!

46 posted on 11/12/2008 12:32:05 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)

To: allmost

I’m not dismissing exchange-rate fluctuations, mind you . . . I just haven’t seen much evidence that the Japanese are manipulating their currency to the point where you see what you think you’re seeing. The Chinese, on the other hand . . . .


47 posted on 11/12/2008 12:32:54 PM PST by 1rudeboy

To: Toddsterpatriot

So you and rightwhale are applauding the decades long tradition of currency manipulation? I must be misinterpreting something here.


48 posted on 11/12/2008 12:33:01 PM PST by allmost

To: Man from Oz
Yep! My next truck will be a MS built Nissan or TX built Toyota.
49 posted on 11/12/2008 12:33:39 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)

To: foutsc
Local Chevy-Pontiac-GMC store closed last week. moved units to other group store 20 miles away. It had been there since 70’s when Olds Cutlass was king.

Dealer Principal owns several franchises in NC including #1 Toyota store in state.

He can see GM is past point of return.

My Question is why is Chrysler in this silly proposal since they are a private owned company with ties into GMAC?

50 posted on 11/12/2008 12:33:43 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces. Go Palin 2012)

To: 1rudeboy

The chicoms are following the Japanese model. It worked well.


51 posted on 11/12/2008 12:34:30 PM PST by allmost

To: foutsc

Quality and service...... that’s why I bought a new Toyota Tundra. I love this truck. The next new car I buy will be another Toyota.

I do own an old Ford too, but it stays parked out behind the barn.... it’s my “going to the dump” vehicle.

Quality and service, and give the people what they want, period.


52 posted on 11/12/2008 12:35:01 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")

To: allmost

No. Just laughing at your lack of understanding. A cheaper Yen makes Yen purchases more expensive. Think about higher oil prices when the dollar was weak. How does buying more expensive parts in Japan help Toyota USA?


53 posted on 11/12/2008 12:36:39 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)

To: allmost
The Japanese "model" is to build items that are cheaper, easier to maintain, more durable, and safer. The Chinese aren't quite there, yet.
54 posted on 11/12/2008 12:37:14 PM PST by 1rudeboy

To: Toddsterpatriot
I have no clue, you are the financial genius here. /sarc
:)
55 posted on 11/12/2008 12:39:08 PM PST by allmost

To: Eagle50AE
My Question is why is Chrysler in this silly proposal since they are a private owned company with ties into GMAC?

type John Snow + Cerberus in a search engine He's the Republican connection to the auto bailout. They have both sides of the aisle covered, it's not just the UAW and Democrats.

56 posted on 11/12/2008 12:39:25 PM PST by nascarnation

To: foutsc

American people stop buying an American car. The people go out and buy japan car only so therefore the an
American workers looses their money of their paycheck. No support to the American people. The priorty is all wrong.

(NoCoGOP’s wife message)


57 posted on 11/12/2008 12:39:57 PM PST by NorCoGOP ("Restostare ab Pauculum" until 2010)

To: foutsc

for later


58 posted on 11/12/2008 12:40:22 PM PST by Monsieur Poirot

To: allmost
I have no clue,

First thing you've said that I can agree with. :^)

59 posted on 11/12/2008 12:41:32 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)

To: foutsc

VW in Virginia says they’re hiring 2000 people.

But, it will happen. Think about the banks. The small home town banks are doing fine but the government will be helping their competition with the small bank’s taxes.


60 posted on 11/12/2008 12:42:25 PM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)


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