So...will you accept payments in Spam or Bullion? :-P
How about 'moonshine'?
Posted on 11/14/2008 10:07:38 AM PST by Dr. Marten
The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.
Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting fut ure world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.
Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.
"We're going to see the end of the retail Christmas....we're going to see a fundamental shift take place....putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree," said Celente, adding that the situation would be "worse than the great depression".
"America's going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for," said Celente, noting that people's refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.
Celente, who successfully predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar, told UPI in November last year that the following year would be known as "The Panic of 2008," adding that "giants (would) tumble to their deaths," which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and others. He also said that the dollar would eventually be devalued by as much as 90 per cent.
The consequence of what we have seen unfold this year would lead to a lowering in living standards, Celente predicted a year ago, which is also being borne out by plummeting retail sales figures.
The prospect of revolution was a concept echoed by a British Ministry of Defence report last year, which predicted that within 30 years, the growing gap between the super rich and the middle class, along with an urban underclass threatening social order would mean, "The world's middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest," and that, "The middle classes could become a revolutionary class."
In a separate recent interview, Celente went further on the subject of revolution in America.
"There will be a revolution in this country," he said. "It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen."
"The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That’s going to be the big one because people can’t afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You’re going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop."
"It’s going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and we’re going to see many more."
"We’re going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. It’s going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. It’s going to come as a shock and with it, there’s going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, people’s minds weren’t wrecked on all these modern drugs – over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass of very desperate people with their minds chemically blown beyond anybody’s comprehension."
"When CNN wants to know about the Top Trends, we ask Gerald Celente."
— CNN Headline News
"A network of 25 experts whose range of specialties would rival many university faculties."
— The Economist
"Gerald Celente has a knack for getting the zeitgeist right."
— USA Today
"There’s not a better trend forecaster than Gerald Celente. The man knows what he’s talking about."
- CNBC
"Those who take their predictions seriously ... consider the Trends Research Institute."
— The Wall Street Journal
"Gerald Celente is always ahead of the curve on trends and uncannily on the mark ... he's one of the most accurate forecasters around."
— The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
"Mr. Celente tracks the world’s social, economic and business trends for corporate clients."
— The New York Times
"Mr. Celente is a very intelligent guy. We are able to learn about trends from an authority."
— 48 Hours, CBS News
"Gerald Celente has a solid track record. He has predicted everything from the 1987 stock market crash and the demise of the Soviet Union to green marketing and corporate downsizing."
— The Detroit News
"Gerald Celente forecast the 1987 stock market crash, ‘green marketing,’ and the boom in gourmet coffees."
— Chicago Tribune
"The Trends Research Institute is the Standard and Poors of Popular Culture."
— The Los Angeles Times
"If Nostradamus were alive today, he'd have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente."
— New York Post
So there you have it - hardly a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard now is he? The price of not heeding his warnings will be far greater than the cost of preparing for the future now. Storable food and gold are two good places to make a start.
I saw this in Mongolia when the Soviet Union fell apart. There was no heat in the apartment buildings so they moved out into the country and lived in tents. The electricity might be on a few hours a day. They came out of it but it was with a lot of monetary help from us. It became very real to me how civilizations die.
When the cities, counties and states that are over spent and can't pay their bills and fix the roads, things go down hill FAST. I am not a pessimist but a realist. The world can change overnight. There is always that possibility, how probable, I don't know.
Incredible quote.
So...will you accept payments in Spam or Bullion? :-P
How about 'moonshine'?
oh, and this. I didn’t see a ping and I didn’t notice you on the thread. OF COURSE, it’s long now!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2132245/posts
Alan Keyes files suit in California
I hope to God this man is wrong.
Better stock up in that case. Ya wouldn't want to go hungry!
Not the end of the world, but a long hiatus in the ever-upward climb of our standard of living. An end, for as long as these people are in total power, of what we all have always assumed was our birthright: to work hard and keep the fruits of our labor and pass them on to our children. This is now *selfish* and *unpatriotic*. We are to give most of our earnings to idiots to hand over to entitled fools, minus the rake-off, in exchange for keeping the idiots in power forever.
I think there is fear because America as we have known her has changed almost beyond recognition. Our politicians are hell-bent on starving our economy of fuel, encouraging dependency, demonizing success, insisting on reeducating us away from religion and our traditions of free speech and the right to keep and bear arms as individuals. They are destroying our currency, our sovereignty, our basic values, our families, our businesses and the jobs they provide, and everything we have worked for that is the basis of our security. In the name of tolerance, Christians, Republicans, conservatives and anyone with any unencumbered assets or who owns any means of production is to be humiliated and threatened with everything from disenfranchisement to confiscation. If we complain, we are overreacting. If we fight back, we are mean-spirited. If we simply state our own ideology, we are ridiculed.
I am with you on the pragmatism and I believe that is what we are seeing in these sorts of articles and threads. Failure and nuttiness are causing the fear, not the other way around.
How can we forget zerO? He is our President. His party is in complete control of both houses of Congress. Within 4 years, he has a chance of changing the SCOTUS so that it is also under the control of progressives and the next stop on their agenda is the foundation of our nation: the Constitution. He is the anti-Lincoln, who will bring about a civil war to enslave the productive.
You are correct in that he ran on an advertising slogan. No one knows what it meant and the idea of undefined change when there was nothing much wrong with the basics of America, except the actions of some politicians, evokes well-founded anxiety in anyone with a brain.
Don’t forget that this is affecting the entire world. There is no one except ourselves to liberate us. The rest of the world blames us while demanding we help them and they celebrate the very political upheaval that is at the root of all the present problems. How nutty is that?
All political campaigns are advertising. Mac was selling the past, while O was selling a rather hazy vision of the future.
Durasell’s first rule of history: You don’t get to grow old and die in the same country you were born in. That was true for the Founding Fathers and every American generation since them. The problem isn’t with a changing country, it’s with Americans’ expectations of the future.
Why consider a pagan Mayan calendar?
Why consider a pagan Mayan calendar?
you need so much money just to stay in your home....
where’s the cheapest place to buy liquor?
remember the 2 qt canning jars?....I got some from my mom and I bought some at a garage sale...
the lids were in short supply a few years ago, if anyone remembers.....that's a very good suggestion....buy them now....
my SIL says this according to her inlaws that are Dukaboors in Canada...they make vegetarian soups using lots of butter and milk and veggies....they make it in huge quantities....then they can a lot of it....not that it will keep on a shelf, but they vacuum seal the jars just so the lids will seal....the soup will keep in the refrig. for several weeks.....
I hope we have enough soylent green.
Follow that “yellow brick road” ... aka ... B*ll S**t.
Is there any resource showing the amount of money a state pays in and what they get back (after the fed has filtered their grift)?
Buy some MREs because they are quite portable, but otherwise spend some money buying dry beans, rice, dried onions and seasonings. You don’t have to spend a lot of money to have some basic protein in the house.
Buy some guns for your liberal neighbors to use when the time comes. Even liberals have a strong sense of survival. :)
“Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches”
Squatter rebellions? Already happening....didn’t he see those marches by hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens and their promoters in our streets?
fortunately, celente is wrong a LOT.
I’ve posted a few examples of predictions he’s made that haven’t come to pass, something nobody seems to be talking about. you can find them here:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/fox_news_obama_gloom
cheers,
dtw
I checked out that site... it seems kind of expensive. Do you consider those items good deals? Maybe I need to rethink.
Considering that what they offer, I can't find elsewhere - yes, they are good deals. But, I've been purchasing over time, a little here, a little there.
My cabinets are also filled with much cheaper items that will still get us through..spam, beans (canned and dry), rice, fruit, juices, canned stews like dinty moore, salami and dried beef, honey, peanut butter..
I always buy extra at the store o my weekly shopping trips. I've done this over a year and it has not affected my budget.
MRE's and long-term food stuffs purchased on-line are stored with our camping gear.
Are you kidding about no tent cities? Please Mr. Ostrich, lift up your eyes.
Mr. Ostrich? :( No, I live in midwest and simply have not seen any—I was asking what I thot was a legitimate, information-seeking question. From responses, seem to exist in California for most part. Truly sorry I asked.
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You got rid of your original stockpile?
If she’s really smart she’ll get someone to melt those gold bars into useable sized coins for her. Gold bars ain’t gonna do it.
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So far his predictions seem to be right. Bookmark for later information.
MREdepot.com and beprepared.com have some great deals on long storage food items.
It does if it’s stored properly, i.e. food grade storage bucket with oxygen absorbers.
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Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute... says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.
Maybe John Titor is real. ;)
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YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.
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Folks, the guy is as accurate as anyone can be from human research. He also must have some connections with the powers that be who are scheduling all this chaos from which to coerce the planet into the global government.
The wise will carefully and prayerfully consider these warnings as extremely apt and valid.
A lot of the details depend on a lot of factors. However, the broad outline is quite in keeping with the globalists’ plans, agenda, methods, goals etc.
PREPARE SPIRITUALLY.
PREPARE EVERY WHICH OTHER WAY YOU CAN.
WALK CLOSE TO GOD—OUR ONLY RELIABLE PROVISION AND PROTECTION.
I have studied this stuff since 1965.
I don’t have the luxury of hoping that way any longer.
Who knows about John Titor.
His parents reportedly are convinced it’s all real.
In any case, some of his warnings are also quite . . . in keeping with globalist hideousness.
Thanks for the ping. He sounds familiar, like the crackpot Ed Dames or whatever that “remote viewing” guy’s name is. Here’s an interesting article to add to the mush:
Gerald Celente, Futurist Fraud
Written by Edward Champion
Posted on November 13, 2008
Filed Under Celente, Gerald, Futurism, PHonies
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message695759/pg1
The crazed doom-and-gloom prophets of our world have this troubling ability to occupy the airwaves, becoming strangely confused with qualified experts. Gerald Celente is the latest soothsayer operating on his hunches — now being celebrated on Digg, Reddit, and just about every damn aggregator imaginable.
His predictions sound suspiciously similar to the storyline for Brian Francis Slattery’s excellent new novel, Liberation, but Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is determined to deliver. By 2012, Celente forecasts revolution in America, food riots, and tax rebellions. In four years, America will become an undeveloped nation. Holidays will be about food rather than gifts. Mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together. Doom and gloom.
The media — or, rather, FOX News and conservative websites — is listening to Celente because he “predicted” the 1997 currency crisis in Asia, the subprime mortgage disaster, and the dollar dipping south. But Infowars, a website run by paleoconservative radio show host Alex Jones, is basking in this dystopic news like an AIG executive riding high on Uncle Sam’s dime. What’s particularly strange is that Infowars hasn’t bothered to quibble with Celente’s statements, much less point to any of his inaccurate predictions.
How does Celente do it? From Invest in Yourself by Mark Eisenson, Gerri Detweiler, and Nancy Castleman:
According to Gerald Celente, Director of the Trends Research Institute and author of Trends 2000, the key to tracking trends is to read two newspapers every day with a purpose — either The Wall Street Journal or The Financial Times, plus The New York Times or USA Today. Look for stories with social, economic, and political significance, be it about the difficulties older suburbs face or the current currency crisis. (You’ll know by the headline or the first paragraph.) Skip the stories that are purely human interest or that are about something that hasn’t happened yet (for example, a jury resuming deliberation on a sensational trial).
When a crisis does occur, tune in to the extra in-depth analyses that you’ll find in accompanying background pieces probably in more than one of the newspapers. Read them as though you’re a “political atheist,” Celente recommends — not for what you want or hope, but for what is really going on, not only in your own profession or industry, but for trends that may directly or indirectly shape the future.
Aside from the Dale Carnegie-style language here, much of Celente’s “suggestions” seem more like a series of guidelines on how to become a successful “futurist” predicting a good deal of generalist nonsense that scares the shit out of people, using language lifted from a newspaper story’s barebones and riding on a few hunches. Of course, it also helps to have an aesthetic touch — something along the lines of a desktop covered with 12 globes, just so you can impress a New York Times reporter who comes by to write a small profile.
Since Infowars could not be bothered to perform even the most rudimentary act of journalism, the time has come to see if Celente’s record truly cuts the mustard.
* In May 1993, in a story about fiftysomethings losing their jobs written for the Orange County Register, Celente was quoted. He was advising IBM at the time during a period of downsizing. What was Celente’s golden advice? He informed displaced executives to “go for some kind of counseling.” Asked to comment on this situation, Celente offered the same doom and gloom boilerplate that he’s telling us today: “The Industrial Age is ending. All the systems are breaking down and that means disappointment and disillusionment for the people who grew up in the ’50’s.” He elaborated, “These people believed in the Ozzie and Harriet way of life. That concept is dead. So is the concept of retiring at 65.” These were hardly prescient or specific thoughts, but they were certainly dramatic enough to make it into an Orange County newspaper.
* Why not get topical? Let’s take Celente on a more specialized subject like restaurants. In 1993, Celente predicted “growing demands for take-out food, high- and low-end restaurants, and restaurants that offer live entertainment. Middle-range restaurants with mainstream fare will suffer.” Aside from the fact that Celente’s prediction accounts for about 90% of restaurants, doesn’t the fact that human beings need to eat remain a comfy ledge to launch a prediction?
* In 1998, Celente told Money Magazine that, as the population grows older, “Americans will be spending more time at home than ever before both for pleasure and business.” Imagine that. You grow old, retire, and then you suddenly have more time. How the hell did Celente know?
* In the September 21, 2000 edition of Newsweek, the great futurist weighed in on mindless chores. Why are they called mindless? “Your mind can’t be going all the time.” And when any problem becomes bigger, it becomes bigger than burnout. “It’s road rage, it’s air rage, it’s Columbine, it’s stress — and people don’t get it.” I’m wondering if it’s also the kind of impulse that will cause you to make impetuous predictions about the United States’s future.
* Asked by CBS News in May 2005 to comment upon where Dillard’s planned to go, Celente had this to say: “There is nothing Dillard’s has that you can’t find in 1,000 other places. America is vastly overstored.” Take out “Dillard’s” and sub it in with another department store chain name, and you begin to see what little Celente’s remarks say.
* But if we’re in for a future of doom and gloom, Celente has been sending us some mixed messages. He told the Associated Press in May 2005, “The bottom of the luxury market is not going to fall out.”
* Talking with the Associated Press in September 2005, Celente suggested that Wal-Mart could deflect its negative image with its philanthropy. That’s hardly a stunning insight. Any positive action has the probability of causing a company to look good. This is rudimentary probability. But what profound thoughts did our great seer tell the AP? “We try to refrain from making value judgments — what the motive is. But the fact is that [Wal-Mart was] there with trailer trucks being turned away. Amazing, isn’t it?” Amazing indeed. Presumably, the AP reporter who talked with Celente did so because the reporter needed somebody to describe the situation as “amazing” or “magnificent.” Some casual modifier that might be confused for profound thought.
* Celente was asked to weigh in on Internet trends by the San Francisco Chronicle’s Patricia Yollin in December 2006. “People are more electronically connected and less humanly connected,” opined our great psychic. And if that general piece of advice wasn’t enough, Celente also took the time to badmouth public displays of affection, pointing out how unacceptable it was to put PDA in “techno jargon.” Perhaps Celente confused PDA with another type of PDA, but what he didn’t seem to tell the reporter was that acronyms have existed long before the Internet.
Here you have a history of a man who not only makes his living spouting this generalist nonsense at corporations, but who is listened to by the media. If we weren’t all scared shitless, this wingnut would be chased out of boardrooms and newsrooms with pitchforks.
But who needs rational thinking when you have the comforts of defeatism? If you really want to get your dose of passive-aggressive dystopia, just call up Gerald Celente. He’s on Line 2 and he’ll take your money when you have no faith in humanity or when you don’t have a clue about how to do your job. Have him rant in your newspaper. Give him money to advise your corporation. Above all, don’t look at history, science, or specific statistics. Because Celente will boil them all down for you with one of his seemingly pithy and mysterious predictions. And he’ll be right. Because like a trusted astrology columnist or a two-bit faith healer, Celente leaves just enough room in his answer to wiggle out. And you swallow it every time. Because you’re too scared to think for yourself, or do a background check on the guy in the lobby waving his arms.
[link to www.edrants.com]
Thanks Kevmo!
bookmarking cool quote
“All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. “
- Abraham Lincoln, 1838
5 posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 10:10:49 AM by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant — he’s errogant!)
Now....if they raise the ATM charge to $2.00, all bets are off....ANARCHY and MARCHING in the STREETS!!
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