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Gerald Celente: Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012
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Posted on 11/14/2008 10:07:38 AM PST by Dr. Marten

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To: TaxRelief

Nori seaweed

How do you use it?


201 posted on 11/14/2008 12:08:43 PM PST by newhouse
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To: TaxRelief
Brandy fruit cake. (Never underestimate the value of good, dark fruit cake preserved with brandy.)

I'll buy two. One for the pantry and one for the arsenal. :-)

202 posted on 11/14/2008 12:10:12 PM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: I Buried My Guns
There is a simmering anger in L.A. also. Less illegal aliens now in my NW corner of the county. They slunk back to Mexico or your city. There is a simmering hatred that we have an affirmative action president along with a simmering anger at what violent homosexuals are doing.

Along with that comes distrust of people in general. Engage when possible, do not engage when not possible. I was active duty. Violence will bubble up from the untrained. Tensions are high, so be aware.

203 posted on 11/14/2008 12:10:49 PM PST by BobS
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To: diamond6; TaxRelief

Hey diamond, Tax Relief seems to know.


204 posted on 11/14/2008 12:11:01 PM PST by poobear (Tagline has been temporarily suspended...)
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To: CodeToad
So, you bought into that liberal propaganda. Dummy. Those numbers included military and federal purchasing and spending.

Federal Dollars are Federal Dollars. The fact that you might like military spending does not change the fact that certain States get more from the Feds than they put in, and those States tend to be "red." (though, it's more of a function of poverty levels, rather than ideology- the poorest States tend to get the most in Federal social spending transfer payments, and the poorests States also tend to be red).

205 posted on 11/14/2008 12:11:51 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: I Buried My Guns
Affirmative Action is OVER!

It was wildly successful. We now have a POTUS that is living proof that skin color trumps skill/ability every time.

J.J., Al and Louie are out of a job. Blacks have achieved compete equality. Everyone IS equal. No need for the government to stack the deck any longer.

206 posted on 11/14/2008 12:12:15 PM PST by skimbell (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten either.)
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To: djf

Do you add two drops of non-scented bleach to your stored water?

Do you rinse the containers with a one teaspoon non-scented bleach/one quart water solution before adding water?


207 posted on 11/14/2008 12:13:34 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Zevonismymuse

yep. Small town, surrounded by woods, lake two blocks away, river up the road, room for a garden (although a green thumb I am not, but will do in a pinch). But it wouldn’t hurt to have can goods stored away. Life is interesting isn’t it.


208 posted on 11/14/2008 12:15:24 PM PST by bella1 (Remember; it took four years of Carter to give us eight years of Reagan.)
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To: TaxRelief

For sheer calories, it can be stored hermetically sealed with no oxygen.

How do you hermetically seal, and what do you seal it in?


209 posted on 11/14/2008 12:16:16 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: Citizen Blade

“Federal Dollars are Federal Dollars. The fact that you might like military spending does not change the fact that certain States get more from the Feds than they put in, and those States tend to be “red.”

That’s total BS. Every State benefits from a national defense and just because some States are better for it doesn’t mean they are welfare States. Nice try, but anyone with common sense knows it to be illogical BS. Liberals also like to say States like Texas are greedy because they get more highway monies per capita than any other State, except they lack the common sense to understand what a large State Texas is.


210 posted on 11/14/2008 12:16:43 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: newhouse

Use it as a layer in wraps and sandwiches, as a sushi wrap, or add it to food you love.


211 posted on 11/14/2008 12:18:14 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Citizen Blade

http://www.taxfoundation.org/

For a complete listing of who gets what...


212 posted on 11/14/2008 12:18:37 PM PST by durasell
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i’ll just go live with Sarah in Alaska....she can govern me all she wants...we’ll hunt moose....and caribou....moose stew....salmon....alaskan king crab....yummy


213 posted on 11/14/2008 12:19:24 PM PST by basalt
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To: Neoliberalnot
This is very misleading since it is a table providing figures not normalized by income.

Why would it need to be? This is a per capita measure. For every tax Dollar Mississippi pays into DC, it gets over 2 Dollars back. The actual total numbers involved are irrelevant. New Jersey is subsidizing expenditures in Mississippi, including expenditures for Federally-funded social services.

Check the average income from states.

It's one of the driving factors here- the poorer States tend to be "red," and they need more social services. They can't pay for them on their own, so they need other States to provide a subsidy.

People in MS are not allowed to make much money and hence don’t pay much.

They're not? I wasn't aware that there was some law limiting incomes in Mississippi.

Why is CA asking for billions in bailout?

Because California's government sucks? I wonder how much of a difference that bailout, if it does happen, will make to the chart, seeing as California currently only gets 80 cents on the Dollar back in Federal tax money.

214 posted on 11/14/2008 12:19:49 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: CodeToad

Texas is one of those states that is wash — they send a buck to DC and get a buck back, or close to it.


215 posted on 11/14/2008 12:19:55 PM PST by durasell
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To: Dr. Marten
The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America

BRING IT!!!

216 posted on 11/14/2008 12:20:16 PM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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To: Citizen Blade

If our economy were to really collapse, a stockpile of gold is not something I’d really want to have in my house.

I think you would, and here’s why:

Let’s say you have your “stockpile”.
Let’s say that I, somehow, get my hands on 500 gallons of gas, and a couple people, including you, hear about it.

If you and the others show up at my door and you have coins and others have dollars, guess who gets some gas?
But that particular day, I might have a cold, what if someone shows up with a jar of Nyquil?
Or I might be low on smokes. Anybody got a carton?

In an environment when commodities become scarce, trading commodities for “dollars” doesn’t make any sense. The only thing that makes sense is trading commodities for commodities. Dollars are only a sort of promise or possibility that you MIGHT - underline MIGHT - be able to sometime, in the future, get commodities.

But if commodities are scarce and there is a possibility that your dollars might not “buy” anything tomorrow, then a currency based economy goes out the window.


217 posted on 11/14/2008 12:20:57 PM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: djf
Large collection of canned veggies.

Canned veggies are great because they also come with water which you can drink if water supply is low.

218 posted on 11/14/2008 12:22:20 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: FeliciaCat
"I dont know how you buy gold except for coins"

It's called "gold bullion"... :)

219 posted on 11/14/2008 12:22:43 PM PST by PEACE ENFORCER (One Needs to Have the Capability of Using Deadly Force at Any Moment.....:))
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To: TaxRelief

Nope.

I live in Seattle. I’m not trying to minimize it, but water is not as much of a problem here.

And I have alot of iodine stashed.


220 posted on 11/14/2008 12:23:23 PM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER

You mean like the little cubes that make soup?


221 posted on 11/14/2008 12:23:25 PM PST by durasell
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To: djf
If our economy were to really collapse, a stockpile of gold is not something I’d really want to have in my house. people to KNOW I have in my house

There, fixed it for you.

222 posted on 11/14/2008 12:23:43 PM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER
http://www.seekbullion.com
223 posted on 11/14/2008 12:25:23 PM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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To: slnk_rules

http://members.peak.org/~jeremy/bz/soupcube.html


224 posted on 11/14/2008 12:27:07 PM PST by durasell
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To: CodeToad
That’s total BS. Every State benefits from a national defense and just because some States are better for it doesn’t mean they are welfare States.

I've seen, close up, how the location of military bases is decided. It has very little to do with what States are better-suited for those bases, and much more to do with what Congressmen have the power to get bases built in their home State or Congressional districts (or to keep existing bases from getting closed). Don't delude yourself into thinking that military appropriations are any less politically-driven than roadbuilding bills.

Liberals also like to say States like Texas are greedy because they get more highway monies per capita than any other State, except they lack the common sense to understand what a large State Texas is.

Based on that chart, Texas more or less breaks even. So, they're not really part of the problem.

225 posted on 11/14/2008 12:28:10 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: TaxRelief

Thanks. I have been at this food storage thing forever but this is new to me.


226 posted on 11/14/2008 12:29:39 PM PST by newhouse
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To: Patriotic1
First and most important question: What things has he predicted that haven’t come to pass? Or do most of them?

That was my first thought. Let's not everybody go freaking out over what one person predicts. So, he was right on a big one once.

Apparently, so was Jeane Dixon. But didn't she end up with a career of putting bizarre predictions in the National Enquirer or something like that?

227 posted on 11/14/2008 12:30:07 PM PST by Allegra
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To: GreyFriar
I’m glad he is an optimist (not)

Considering how other Communist regimes have consolidated their power, I think he may be an optimist.

228 posted on 11/14/2008 12:30:37 PM PST by zot
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To: slnk_rules
Another concern: My neighborhood itself is nice and quiet, but I live near a freeway and a ghetto. In bad times those folks can and will come into my area to steal. (it happened once before, right after the hurricane, so I'm not being farfetched).

My neighbors are, however, very diverse in their beliefs. Those on either side of me are flaming liberals who would rather die than pick up a gun. I don't have that problem, but I need to make contact with others of the same mindset to organize "Community Patrols". I am hesitant to voice my opinions because I sound like a kook, but I see where our economy is headed and want to be prepared. I do have friends, but they are scattered all over our town, which is pretty large. We have a private communtiy patrol service, but they are worthless and do not prevent crime.

I'm fairly new to this neighborhood, and don't want to alienate anyone. At the same time, I don't want to die or be victimized, either.

229 posted on 11/14/2008 12:30:58 PM PST by I Buried My Guns
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To: djf
I think you would, and here’s why:

My point is that, if we really collapse into a Mad Max world, gold would just make me a target. I'd rather have a good supply of weapons. Or, perhaps more importantly, a skill (such as being a doctor or a mechanic) that people would be willing to barter goods and services for.

230 posted on 11/14/2008 12:31:51 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: durasell

“You mean like the little cubes that make soup?”

OMG! thats exactly what I thought too!


231 posted on 11/14/2008 12:34:42 PM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: durasell
Spam lasts forever!

Drudge has a developing story today -- apparently Hormel can't keep up with the Spam demand.

232 posted on 11/14/2008 12:34:59 PM PST by jersey117
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To: TaxRelief

Lots of salt. Yeast. Lard.

Beef jerky. Dried fruits & veggies. That drier was the best investment I’ve made. That & the bread maker.


233 posted on 11/14/2008 12:35:00 PM PST by Raebie (~Never go down with a loaded gun~)
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To: diamond6

I’m cheap. I like the old candle trick. Light a birthday candle in the storage container, seal and let the burning candle use up the remaining oxygen.

You can easily research the many methods people use.


234 posted on 11/14/2008 12:35:14 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: FeliciaCat

I was quoting one of the Ocean’s 11 movies...


235 posted on 11/14/2008 12:35:26 PM PST by durasell
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To: Citizen Blade

” It has very little to do with what States are better-suited for those base”

That is a total non-sequiter. It doesn’t excuse liberals saying military spending is welfare spending. If that were the case then we’d claim everyone assigned to bases located in our State as our State’s citizens and make them pay us income taxes and we could then refuse to protect your State. I mean, if you don’t want to take the hit along with us for military spending then to Hell with you. We’ll keep those military assests all for ourselves since we take the blame for the spending.


236 posted on 11/14/2008 12:37:57 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: durasell

I love that movie


237 posted on 11/14/2008 12:39:37 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: CodeToad

You have it slightly wrong. Military spending isn’t welfare spending. However, placement of bases and resources is not always determined by the best location, but who owes who a favor in Congress.


238 posted on 11/14/2008 12:40:36 PM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

I know it wasnt soup...but I swear thats the first thing I thought of. Time for lunch.


239 posted on 11/14/2008 12:41:25 PM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: durasell
For a complete listing of who gets what...

DC- we get back $5.55 for each tax Dollar we put in. We're no. 1! We're no. 1! Thanks, America!

240 posted on 11/14/2008 12:42:36 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: FeliciaCat

SOUP: The under=rated meal!


241 posted on 11/14/2008 12:42:55 PM PST by durasell
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To: Citizen Blade

And you’re even a real state!

I believe Alaska gets the most.


242 posted on 11/14/2008 12:44:25 PM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

“You have it slightly wrong. Military spending isn’t welfare spending.”

That is my whole point. Liberals try to say ANY spending sent to a State to include military and infrastructure spending is welfare spending on that State. They do that because it makes it appear their “blue” States support “red” States.


243 posted on 11/14/2008 12:44:45 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Raebie

Dried fruit and veggies loose a lot of their nutrients, that’s why I advocate run or brandy fruitcake for longterm storage.

How do you store yeast without refrigeration?

I should have mentioned lard. Keeps forever. I think djf did have salt on his list.

Meat storage is tricky. Oldtimers used to can much of their meat for use in stews. Jerky is great, as you point out, but expensive unless you dry it yourself. I think a lot of people who don’t normally hunt will be out tomorrow.

Honestly? A pair of breeding rabbits would be awesome if push came to shove.


244 posted on 11/14/2008 12:45:02 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER

Thanks for info...so what does it look like?
(and yes, I know its not soup..;)


245 posted on 11/14/2008 12:45:36 PM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: CodeToad
That is a total non-sequiter. It doesn’t excuse liberals saying military spending is welfare spending.

You were trying to make the argument, it seems, that the States that have lots of military bases got those bases because they're the best-suited. That's not the case and you know it- they got those bases because their politicians have a lot of pull, in many cases. Let's not pretend Virginia is doing something noble by selflessly allowing the Federal governmemt to plow billions of dollars into naval bases, any more than Maryland is a martyr for letting the Feds spend billions on NIH and its sattelites,

246 posted on 11/14/2008 12:47:06 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: CodeToad

The divisions between red and blue states are artificial. Each state performs a function.

That said, placement of military resources is often political and often based on need.


247 posted on 11/14/2008 12:47:12 PM PST by durasell
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To: I Buried My Guns

Meet your neighbors. Go out to the front yard and do some time-intensive work on the shubbery. It might take a few days, but eventually one or another neighbor will stop for a moment of casual conversation. Repeat until you have met several neighbors. Ease into talk about the economy.


248 posted on 11/14/2008 12:47:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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To: durasell
"It’s much better to develop high end skill sets...

I've got one. Microwave engineering tech. I am in short supply. I know it all. I can move to Texas, Arizona, Brazil, Italy, Spain, France, India if I have a reason to.

India would be interesting.

249 posted on 11/14/2008 12:48:53 PM PST by BobS
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To: FeliciaCat
when she told me about a year ago that she was buying bricks of gold I was like whatever,

_____________________________________

At @ $280,000 per brick I'd be like, "Yeah, right."

250 posted on 11/14/2008 12:49:08 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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