Skip to comments.SCOTUS To Review Birth Certificate Case on December 5
Posted on 11/20/2008 8:13:25 AM PST by Bill Dupray
This story may have legs after all. . . .
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A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obamas name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a conference at the U.S. Supreme Court.
Conferences are private meetings of the justices at which they review cases and decide which ones to accept for formal review. This case is set for a conference Dec. 5, just 10 days before the Electoral College is scheduled to meet to make formal the election of Obama as the nations next president.
Most likely, however the case goes, it’ll be a nailbiting 5-4 decision. The tiebreaker, of course, will be Anthony Kennedy and whether he’s having a bad-hair day.
Legs indeed, Lord please let this be. If they do rule against the new election could be Sarah v Hillary.
the 4 right of center justices might demure on this one. dont get your hopes too high.
I believe it only requires four justices to bring the case up for argument.
It takes 4 positive “votes” in conference for the SCOTUS to bring the case to trial.
I don’t see Roberts agreeing to it. Conference vote: 6-3, “nay”.
Interesting, I just commented in another thread
that a lot of these other suits may be asking for the wrong thing... Keyes trying to disqualify CA electors, Berg trying to stay the election, etc.
I read this right? In this one, Obama’s name on national ballot is the actual challenge?
My guess is that the justices already know what needs to be done, and they are going to pick and choose which case they review to either get it done right, or to sweep it under the rug in the most discrete manner.
Praying every day, all day long, that Hussein will never take office.
Maybe Thomas, Scalia, et al., will be an answer to prayer.
Even if the case is not heard, what will come out of this is a process for determining qualification before inauguration.
The cynical part of me says that SCOTUS will never do anything with this and risk the collective wrath of the “informed” Obama voters who no doubt will burn their building down.
Did SCOTUS actually demand Obama produce his BC by Dec 1, or did they just require that he respond to the suit?
I don’t know. Its freak show crazy that obama doesn’t produce a birth certificate. Further, actual records from Indonesia list his nationality as Indonesian when he was a boy. There are no documents that show his nationality was transfered back to the USA.
This is the kind of stuff that prevents another rock star like The Arnold from running as POTUS. (Its ok for him to run as govenor but the requirements for POTUS are more stringent—as they should be.)
Is Obama above the law?
Since the case is for an emergency stay, and pertains to a national election, they will accept the case and review it. Their decision will be given prior to vote by Electoral College.
I have a template letter on this topic and addresses to contact the SCOTUS justices and clerks. Please private mail me if you’re interested.
I agree on all points.
But I don’t see the SCOTUS wanting to be the ones to cause Civil War II.
just a feeling on this not facts.
This case also challenges McCain's citizenship.
I want justice to prevail - no matter the outcome.
The issue deserves a look-see at the only court authorized to assess the situation. I don’t think Thomas is saying or thinking one way or another, but just that the court should at least look at it.
This is the real problem.
It should be very easy for the supremes to say ok, everyone produce your birth certificates and lets get on with it. This is a no brainer. Its easy. Its a formality.
But what happens if they know or even suspect or smell a problem. ie what happens if they believe a ruling to require candidates to produce birth certificates would set off a firestorm.
Why? Because Obama doesn’t have the documtation.
What happens if the real problem is that Obama doesn’t have the docs to prove he’s a “natural born citizen”
That, in fact, the documents prove otherwise.
"There is no law that will stop him (Obama) from becoming president!" - Michelle Obama
It is in the best interest of this country for the case to be heard by the Supremes, regardless of whether he is, or is not, eligible.
If he is, then that puts paid to all of the other suits, and we can all move along to obfuscating his nefarious plans for the next 4 years, while seeking a suitable contender for the White House in 2012.
If he isn’t, then the Constitution of the United States, which is the supreme law of this land, needs to be upheld and obeyed. If his (vastly reduced in number at that point - Americans don’t like to be had!) supporters take to the streets, then so be it. They will fight, they will be subdued in due course, and America will survive and move on.
The upshot of it is, no party will dare to nominate another candidate who has not been thoroughly vetted, no matter how good of a game he talks, plus the media will be exposed again for the sham that it has become.
It’s a no win situation for the case not to be heard, and a no lose for it to be heard.
But I dont see the SCOTUS wanting to be the ones to cause Civil War II.
The implications are on the order of the Nixon knock out.
Here’s the thing. This puppy is not going away. So they either do it now when its relatively easy to face the consequences or later when its not.
You understand Obama should have the documentation. The Arnold would be running for president and winning if he had the documentation. But he doesn’t have the docs. So he doesn’t run.
I don’t get it. I always thought that if one of your parents were American, you were automatically an American no matter where you were born. Am I wrong?
Donofrios case argues that Obama is not a natural born citizen because his father was not an American. To Donofrio, natural born means that both parents are American and the child was born in the US. Obama is an American citizen... just not natural born citizen...even thought he was born in Hawaii (supposedly). He thinks that the birth certificate question is a ruse. He believes that the founding fathers mandated that both parents be born in the US and the child be born in the US to become natural born citizen. On Obamas website, he admits that his father was a British subject and he too was british. We’ll see.
I hope that answers your question.
I just don’t get why this hasn’t been resolved LONG ago...it doesn’t make sense that the Dems would let this rise to the level of the Supreme Court? Crazy....
It’s not being an American that is questioned...it is the question between natural born and naturalized.
I have listened to Leo Donofrio from NJ for the last two nights on Prarie Radio and Lam Lamphere. If they made a movie about this (Hollywood would never touch it) it would be incredible. It is the most amazing story no one knows about. Little people stepped in as Leo was getting jerked around by a corrupt clerk at SCOTUS screwing with his filing.
Leo is a super guy and a real patriot.
Go to his web site at www.blogspot.org/naturalborncitizen?
You can learn what is going on. Everyone should lay off the stupid vanity posts, grandpa’s corn fritters, Rush talking about the Steelers, prayer threads for Obama and other nonsense. Our freedom hangs by a thread. We have had a coup. The financial markets have been manipulated for profit by shorts using bear raids and to gain control of the country.
Our conservative talk show “heroes” are AWOL chickens. Thank God for the Internet radio people like Prarie Radio, Lan and Free Republic when it is not used for inanities like granny’s pumpkin pie receipe or snide comments by negative people.
Leo and his case may be the only thing standing in the way of tyranny by two political parties owned by ?? and a MSM owned by other people who care little about America.
Leo’s case does NOT need a birth certificate but it is backup in his case in case his first or second claim fails. leo built layers in his case.
Leo has it nailed based on The Constitution. It is obvious and there is no ambiguity. Justice Thomas would not have moved it along unless Leo’s case was solid. I feel they will have a hard time turning this away. The Framers entrusted SCOTUS as almost the last defense against tyranny and their shield and sword is the Constitution. Leo’s case lays it all out. It truly is amazing. A David and Golith story.
Let's see how the US government lines up against these foundational laws:
1) The legislative branch creates laws.
2) The executive branch implements the laws. There are provisions for some leeway during times of war, via the War Powers Act. This requires a declaration of war, not in effect.
3) The judicial branch judges cases using the law. Judges were _never_ authorized to create law _out_of_thin_air_ any more than to ignore lawful laws in their decisions. The key principle in the previous statement is that a case brought before the courts, for which there is no covering law, must be ruled simply NO jurisdiction and dropped, duh.
Now, SCOTUS would surely be aware of the US Constitution and it's _very_ lawful law pertaining to the citizenship requirements for a president. They are legal bound to uphold the law, not worry about the ramifications, ie., the nut left riots which may ensue.
Obama is just another Bill Clinton. Both are narcissitic.
Not a good path.
This is a Constitutional Crisis ... as much as they want to it may prove difficult to sweep this away ... imagine sweeping a 300 pound elephant under the rug ... if they let it go then the Republicans will run ARNOLD next time
My brother and his wife had a son when they were in France (Army) and that son is an American citizen. Think of all the military kids born to American military personnel while out of the country. An American father and American mother - their children are American citizens.
I think this story is really going somewhere. I also think that the API is a great source of news and that my new African email buddy is going to send me $20 million as soon as I mail him $5k for shipping.
SCOTUS job is to protect The Constitution no matter what. Obama and the DNC caused this fraud. McCain and the GOP do not get off either. I think both are owned by someone named George.
While a legislator in Illinois, Obama proved he regards the Constitution as nothing but a nuisance to his agenda. He arbitrarily cancelled the Consrtitutional rights of newly born alive infants inorder to try and 'protect' roe v Wade. If he will seek to cancel the Constituional rights of such vulnerable alive Americans, what restrains this man's mind on any issue he deems worthy of his attention?
If he is disqualified, Biden will be President. Elections have consequences. Democrats are now in complete control ... and they are counting on extortion to cower the SCOTUS.
I’m not sure a template letter is the way to go on this.
Yes, include the necessary information but it’s important to vary the letters so they aren’t just carbon copies.
Handwritten letters really stand out, in contrast with mass produced printed ones. Straight, to the point, original letters have an impact.
Perhaps so but McCain is included in the filing questioning his citizenship. The constitution does not define "natural born".
They'll decide not to review because they don't wish to create an incident, regardless of the merits.
That's how our government functions. Overlook laws and the constitutions if required actions would embarrass the government, the individual(s) involved or create public outcry.
A US military installation (even a ship) is US territory. I think the only problem with McCain was that he was born in a hospital that was outside of the base. I don’t believe the base had a maternity facility, or something like that.
I think they are going to want Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen.
Maybe he can and this is all just a dopey excercise. Or maybe he can't and then it gets interesting.
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