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Kenyan Ambassador Says Obama’s Birthplace in KENYA is “An Attraction…Already Well-Known”
donedems.com ^ | November 21, 2008 | Old Major

Posted on 11/21/2008 5:43:38 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: TruthWillWin; All

And not a word on any of the other forums.
I’ve spread it around to about 10 or 15 forums. It was met with surprise from Repubs and the Obots refused to believe it.
Not a peep out of the Canadian newspaper that provided us with anti-Obongo stories or the Brits either!


51 posted on 11/21/2008 8:49:25 PM PST by patriot08
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To: upcountry miss

How sweet it would be to see Obongo come this far and then be thrown out!! LOL


52 posted on 11/21/2008 8:51:47 PM PST by patriot08
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To: Free ThinkerNY

To put it in perspective, Kenyans also have a tourist trap that is the “final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant” run by a mystic pseudo-Christian cult at the base of Mount Kenya.


53 posted on 11/21/2008 9:00:53 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: patriot08
I brought this issue up with my son-in-law who is a big Obama supporter (and donated thousands) and that was the 1st time he had heard of it. I might ad he prides himself on being up on the issues.

His 1st response was anger at Republicans so I mentioned that a Hillary supporter, Phillip Berg, was who started the lawsuits.

54 posted on 11/21/2008 9:13:57 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: omega4179

Hey all, send this to EVERYBODY!


55 posted on 11/21/2008 10:10:36 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This story just gets weider by the minute


56 posted on 11/21/2008 10:13:19 PM PST by screaming eagle2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I advise every freeper to listen to this radio show. It is fairly “small potato” and starts out slow but stay with it. Guest call in and tell about the birth certificate/gate. It is excellent. If anyone listens to it please let us know if you feel it is worth while for others to hear. Thanks!
http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-is-obamas-birth-certificate-still.html


57 posted on 11/21/2008 10:17:49 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Bellflower; All

I was listening to ‘plains radio’.
They had Leo on. He said some trashed his website and he thinks he’s being followed.
Scary.


58 posted on 11/21/2008 10:39:30 PM PST by patriot08
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To: Publius6961
Why do they keep beating that dead horse? Unless I misunderstand the law, his mother was a US citizen, so it doesn't matter where he was born.

I'm afraid you misunderstand the law. The POTUS must be a 'natural-born' citizen meaning he has to be born in the U.S. or other U.S. territory such as a U.S. military base, or U.S. embassy. The fact that 0bama will not show us the birth certificate that has been sealed in Hawaii tells me that something is very wrong with it.

59 posted on 11/21/2008 10:57:33 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Teacher317
Got a news flash for you FRiend, unless 0bama was born on U.S. soil or U.S. territory, he is NOT eligible to serve as President, and if his mother were Betsy Ross or Kate Smith it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference.
You might want to write to John McCain then. He was born in Panama, IIRC. Having two US citizens as parents also qualifies as a "natural-born citizen". (Obama's father was Kenyan, his mother Kansan.)


*BZZZZT*!!!! Wrong answer. AGAIN. John McCain was born on a United States military base, which automatically qualifies as "U.S. soil", unlike Comrade 0bama whose birth on foreign soil is becoming increasingly likely.

We have a Grandmother who claims to have attended the birth in Kenya, a Kenyan Ambassador stating that the birthplace in question is in Kenya, and an alleged 'President-elect' who is resisting all efforts to just put the controversy to rest by producing the damn evidence.

Back to you pal.
60 posted on 11/21/2008 11:30:40 PM PST by mkjessup (Thomas Jefferson was RIGHT about the need to water the Tree of Liberty, and with WHAT.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
To put it in perspective, Kenyans also have a tourist trap that is the “final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant” run by a mystic pseudo-Christian cult at the base of Mount Kenya.

And said trap lacks a Grandmother stating that she was present when the 'Ark' was finally laid to rest, nor does said trap have a Kenyan Ambassador testifying to the existence of said 'Ark'.

On the other hand, when it comes to Comrade 0bama, the only 'trap' is the one that has been sprung on an ignorant and willfully stupid American public.
61 posted on 11/21/2008 11:33:48 PM PST by mkjessup (Thomas Jefferson was RIGHT about the need to water the Tree of Liberty, and with WHAT.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh boy... (snicker)


62 posted on 11/22/2008 12:07:54 AM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: DMZFrank
Check this out ... I believe Hussein is not qualified ... British common law and the Constitution:

The term “natural born” citizen has a long history in British common law.(38) In fact, a law passed in 1677 law says that “natural born” citizens include people born overseas to British citizens. This usage was undoubtedly known to John Jay, who had children born overseas while he was serving as a diplomat.(39) It also appears to have been employed by the members of the first Congress, who included many of the people who had participated in the Constitutional Convention. To be specific, The Naturalization Act of 1790, which was passed by this Congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens; Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States.”(40)

This history suggests that the Founding Fathers used the term “natural born” as an expansive definition of citizenship, that is, as a way to make certain that people born overseas to American citizens would have the full rights of other American citizens.(41)

A particularly compelling version of this interpretation, with language that applies, inadvertently, no doubt, to foreign-born adoptees, can be found in an article written almost 100 years ago by Alexander Porter Morse.(42) He writes that by drawing on the term so well known from English law, the Founders were recognizing “the law of hereditary, rather than territorial allegiance.”(43) In other words, they were drawing on the English legal tradition, which protected allegiance to the king by conferring citizenship on all children “whose fathers were natural-born subjects,” regardless of where the children were born.(44) Thus, according to Morse, “the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the President should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth.”(45) He goes on to say that the presidential eligibility clause “was scarcely intended to bar the children of American parentage, whether born at sea or in foreign territory.... A natural-born citizen has been defined as one whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country.”(46

64 posted on 11/22/2008 12:44:38 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: communismfighter1

Too bad we ALL have to suffer before that happens.


65 posted on 11/22/2008 4:19:21 AM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: mkjessup
My errant counter-example does not make my point incorrect. If you and your spouse are both citizens and you happen to have a child during a vacation in Brazil, your child is still an American citizen.

A better example: Mitt Romney's father George (Gov of Michigan) ran against Nixon for the GOP nomination in 1968, and he was born in Chihuahua, Mexico. (Mitt's grandfather had 3 wives. They went to Mexico after Utah changed their polygamy laws.)

66 posted on 11/22/2008 5:14:34 AM PST by Teacher317 (Well, at least we know Obama isn't the anti-Christ. Satan would have more class.)
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To: Teacher317
My errant counter-example does not make my point incorrect. If you and your spouse are both citizens and you happen to have a child during a vacation in Brazil, your child is still an American citizen.

The child is indeed a citizen however the child is not NATIVE BORN meaning born on U.S. soil which IS the Constitutional requirement for any person seeking the Presidency.

That is the fact that you need to disprove and refute in order to be correct.

Enjoy your day.
67 posted on 11/22/2008 6:34:18 AM PST by mkjessup (Congratulations to the 0bama family, movin' on up to subsidized government housing!)
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To: Teacher317
I might add as an afterthought regarding George Romney, is that had he actually been within reach of the GOP nomination for 1968 that he may have been challenged on his own Constitutional qualifications for the Presidency.

What is needed are the precise details for his birth, whether or not he was born in surroundings that could be defined as "U.S. soil" even if outside of the CONUS.
68 posted on 11/22/2008 6:43:15 AM PST by mkjessup (Congratulations to the 0bama family, movin' on up to subsidized government housing!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

69 posted on 11/22/2008 6:46:47 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: mkjessup
And a PS:

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, states “No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of president” which effectively prohibits people born in foreign countries from serving as President.
70 posted on 11/22/2008 6:56:11 AM PST by mkjessup (Congratulations to the 0bama family, movin' on up to subsidized government housing!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
No. You could produce video proof of his birth in a Kenyan sh*t-hole and no court will overturn the election.

It's not a matter of "overturning the election". This is not a dispute about counting votes, casting votes, or even eligibility to vote. It's about enforcing the provision of the Constitution that provided that only a natural born citizen is eligible to the office of President. The resolution will not involve any new elections...unless the court also declares that the electors where fraudulently elected. But I don't expect that, at not with the cases now in the courts, because AFAIK, that is not at issue.

71 posted on 11/22/2008 7:15:30 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: JerseyHighlander
To put it in perspective, Kenyans also have a tourist trap that is the “final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant” run by a mystic pseudo-Christian cult at the base of Mount Kenya.

Events of a few thousand years ago, and events of less than 50 years ago are quite different things. Also, some cult in the jungle is a bit different than the ambassador of the country.

72 posted on 11/22/2008 7:29:40 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The Founders wanted those loyal to the US to serve.

Well hell, that right there disqualifies him.

73 posted on 11/22/2008 8:00:26 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I certainly agree with that.


74 posted on 11/22/2008 8:08:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Publius6961
Why do they keep beating that dead horse? Unless I misunderstand the law, his mother was a US citizen, so it doesn't matter where he was born.

Unfortunately, you do not understand the law. It has been stated many times in these threads, so I am not going to repeat it. Obama and Democrats have intentionally put our Constitution in danger. If this isn't treason and unpatriotic, then what is?

75 posted on 11/22/2008 8:28:03 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Thank you for providing this information. Also, Obama, the DNC and Co-Defendants must answer a “Writ of Certiorari” from Philip J. Berg in PA. to the U.S. Supreme Court on or before December 1, 2008.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


77 posted on 11/23/2008 7:46:37 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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