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AK: Fort Richardson Soldier Dead Due to Army Policy
Dustins Gun Blog ^ | 4 December, 2008 | Dustin

Posted on 12/04/2008 6:30:34 PM PST by marktwain

Unbelievable. Major General Stephan Layfield of Fort Richardson trusts his soldiers to bear full auto weapons when on base or on foreign battle fields to defend our Nation, but when it comes to defending their own lives on our streets, he disarms them of all weapons capable of causing physical injury. Not only is that unconstitutional, it's disgraceful.

DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY HEADQUARTERS, U.S. ARMY ALASKA 724 POSTAL SERVICE LOOP #5000 FORT RICHARDSON, ALASKA 99505-5000 APVR-RUPM 20 Sep 2007 MEMORANDUM FOR SEE DISTRIBUTION

SUBJECT: Concealed Weapons Policy (CG/CofS Policy #0-20)

1. Carrying concealed deadly weapons by USARAK Soldiers represents a significant risk to the safety and welfare of this command. Accordingly, all Soldiers assigned or attached to USARAK are prohibited from carrying a concealed deadly weapon in public places off of all USARAK posts. All persons are prohibited from carrying concealed deadly weapons on USARAK posts IAW USARAK Regulation 190-

2. Definitions:

* a. Carry means on or about the person, or uncased within the immediate vicinity of the person, so as to be available for immediate use, e.g. in the person’s automobile. * b. Deadly weapon means any firearm or anything designed for or capable of causing death or serious physical injury. * c. Concealed means hidden from plain view. * d. Firearm means a weapon, including a pistol, revolver, rifle, or shotgun, whether loaded or unloaded, operable or inoperable, designed to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive charge or primer. * e. Public place means a place to which the public or a substantial group of persons has access. This includes locations involved in the sale of alcoholic beverages, highways, transportation facilities, schools, places of business, places of amusement, parks, playgrounds and prisons. It also includes hallways, lobbies, and other portions of apartment houses and hotels not constituting rooms or apartments designed for actual residence.

3. This policy is punitive. Soldiers who fail to comply with the requirements of this policy are subject to adverse administrative action and/or punishment under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

STEPHEN R. LAYFIELD. Major General, USA Commanding

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As a direct result of that idiotic Fort Richardson Army Policy, Army Sgt. Evan Minnear was defenseless when he was shot & killed by a Felon walking the streets of Anchorage Alaska who was already on probation for a previous Felony Assault. Army Sgt. Evan Minnear survived a 15 month tour in Iraq, but once home & disarmed he was unable to survive our city streets. Major General Stephan Layfield and anyone else in command above him responsible for disarming our soldiers have his blood on their hands. My sincere condolences to the family of Army Sgt. Evan Minnear, may he rest in peace.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: alaska; army; banglist; concealed
I guess General Layfield is looking for an Obama promotion.

Commanding officers can prohibit offpost behavior, but doing so where a Contitutional right is involved is a bit over the top. Especially when the evidence is against their subjective judgement.

1 posted on 12/04/2008 6:30:34 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Good point... They’re so eager to grant constitutional rights to non citizen enemies of this country, and deny them to those sworn to defend it.


2 posted on 12/04/2008 6:36:46 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: marktwain
STEPHEN R. LAYFIELD. Major General, A$$HOLE
3 posted on 12/04/2008 6:55:29 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE Evan Vela)
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To: Lancey Howard

Ping.


4 posted on 12/04/2008 6:58:29 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE Evan Vela)
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To: marktwain

BUMP


5 posted on 12/04/2008 6:59:40 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: bigheadfred

Oh hey..you beat me to it. Furious.


6 posted on 12/04/2008 7:04:17 PM PST by lilycicero
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To: marktwain
Typical Army BS.

I was at Wainwright in the mid 90s. Do you “reeeeeeeeealy” think we went out on exercises unarmed? You see bear marks on trees and there are moose. Of course not. It would be stupid! But unfortunately, had we gotten caught or something had gone wrong, our @ss would have been in the wind.

Think about that. The Army sends out soldiers into the wilderness for training where we stay for weeks at a time, they see signs of bears and moose all over the place, these people are trained in firearms use and have a background check, and they want them to carry an M16 armed with blanks only. Does that make any sense?

7 posted on 12/04/2008 7:04:55 PM PST by Red6
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To: lilycicero

It’s okay. You can still call STEPHEN R. LAYFIELD an A$$HOLE to. I’ll be furious if ya don’t. ;-)


8 posted on 12/04/2008 7:09:41 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE Evan Vela)
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To: marktwain; bigheadfred
I guess General Layfield is looking for an Obama promotion.

That is an excellent guess. There's a reason this pantload general, this political hack, is stationed in Alaska rather than in theater, and I suspect it's because he's a loser at the end of the line and running out the clock. I bet he's also a hypocrite and he either has a bodyguard (driver) or carries a weapon himself. Or both.

9 posted on 12/04/2008 7:22:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; lilycicero
or carries a weapon himself

Yeah, in his purse. Or that bulge under his skirt really is a GUN.

10 posted on 12/04/2008 7:29:45 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE Evan Vela)
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To: marktwain
This is the reason I'm so glad I served on active duty when I did because I couldn't survive mentally or emotionally in todays military, especially as an infantry officer.

When I was an active duty infantry officer I held a WA State ccw and regularly carried everywhere. There were times when I worked for the General (on his staff) that I was ordered to ccw on post and times overseas when I was ordered to lock and load my issued 1911A1 on allied soil. Because when I served we had leadership that understood that Americans will always be targets and must never become victims. Apparently that has been lost. I am appalled that this officer seems to have reversed that sound geopolitical doctrine.

11 posted on 12/04/2008 8:03:00 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Here’s his bio:

http://www.usarak.army.mil/main/cg2.htm

You’d think someone who has all this service to his country wouldn’t have his head quite that far up his a**.


12 posted on 12/04/2008 8:20:14 PM PST by ohioarmedneutrality (Never mess with a Quaker armed with a semi-automatic rifle.)
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To: ohioarmedneutrality
He looks a little bit like Lou Costello. Hey ABBOTT!
13 posted on 12/04/2008 8:40:39 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: marktwain

Does this order apply to the AK National Guard??


14 posted on 12/04/2008 9:38:43 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Lancey Howard

You don’t get to be a two-star if you’re a hack. And that’s a pretty good ‘end of the line.’ Most good men do well but don’t make it that far.
I’ve met the guy. Good guy, bad policy.


15 posted on 12/04/2008 9:41:33 PM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: ohioarmedneutrality; Old Sarge
While this isn't necessarily a universal truth, I've found that for many officers once they pass the rank of captain, they experience a profound metamorphosis. Captain is the last rank in any of the combat arms branches (Special Forces, Infantry, Armor, Field Artillery and Air Defense Artillery) where an officer actually gets to pull a trigger when the rounds start flying for real.

After captain it's mostly paperwork: administration & staff. Even for officers who are lucky enough to pull a battalion or brigade command. The single exception (sometimes) being Special Forces branch. Then IT happens. They get "stars" in their eyes. They become politicians. If they're decent politicans and decent people with a real belief in this country and it's greatness, they can make it to BG (Brigadier General) and retire. Those who show talent for higher responsibility or have the connections (eg. Skull & Bones) go onward.

That's where the true corruption begins. These officers are often tested with assignments that offer them the opportunity to be of value to those at the top of the "agenda." They may be offered a taste of some of the potential "perks" in having access to those with an actual seat at Satan's table. If this test is passed, then membership in the Council on Foreign Relations is offered. Once accepted at that level there is almost no limit to how far a military career can advance. Look at Colin Powell. Look at Barry McCaffrey (whom I once served under). Look at Wesley Clark. The first two held primary positions in a Presidential Cabinet. Powell was actually groomed for the top job but unfortunately was stymied by personal distractors. Clark was able to take a shot at going for all the marbles.

16 posted on 12/05/2008 2:59:53 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ArmyTeach
“You don’t get to be a two-star if you’re a hack. And that’s a pretty good ‘end of the line.’ Most good men do well but don’t make it that far.
I’ve met the guy. Good guy, bad policy.”

It is the truth. I would say the vast majority Colonels are darn good. He has a Bronze Star, which says a bit. I wonder who sold him this policy.
17 posted on 12/05/2008 6:41:14 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ArmyTeach
“You don’t get to be a two-star if you’re a hack. And that’s a pretty good ‘end of the line.’ Most good men do well but don’t make it that far.
I’ve met the guy. Good guy, bad policy.”

It is the truth. I would say the vast majority Colonels are darn good. He has a Bronze Star, which says a bit. I wonder who sold him this policy. Probably an anti-gun JAG officer.
18 posted on 12/05/2008 6:42:11 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Active duty military members have no constitutional rights. They voluntarily suspend those rights upon enlistment so that they can defend them for the rest of us.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 9:40:09 AM PST by CSM (I’m jubilant! Now that the Dems are completely in charge, we can FINALLY blame THEM for everything!)
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To: CSM
“Active duty military members have no constitutional rights. They voluntarily suspend those rights upon enlistment so that they can defend them for the rest of us.”

There is truth in that, but not the whole truth. The military also has an obligation to preserve as much of the Constitutional rights as they can consistent with good discipline and accomplishing the mission.
20 posted on 12/06/2008 5:49:54 AM PST by marktwain
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That's true - most of the colonels I have know are dedicated and good, with the occasional exception. Of course, you know that we're talking about a two star general here.
21 posted on 12/08/2008 12:31:45 AM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: ArmyTeach

Yes, and I have never met even a one star that was not very, very, sharp.

Most officers never make Colonel, and it is much harder to get a star.


22 posted on 12/08/2008 3:34:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Your correct of course and I appreciate the clarification.


23 posted on 12/08/2008 5:13:34 AM PST by CSM (I’m jubilant! Now that the Dems are completely in charge, we can FINALLY blame THEM for everything!)
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