Skip to comments.Nirth Certifikit Kookery: Promoted by Truthers and Paulians
Posted on 12/08/2008 6:46:59 AM PST by Scarchin
Anyone want to guess which idiotbloggers are taking part in these nirth certifikit conference calls?
Each week a small group of people running websites and blogs dedicated to the story participate in a conference call to discuss the latest news and how to advance the story. Between 5 and 10 people call in, most of whom know little about each other except for their shared interest in Obamas citizenship.
One of the frequent participants in the conference calls is Bob Schultz, who heads the We the People Foundation which has raised tens of thousands of dollars raising questions about Obamas background and promoting Bergs legal action with full-page ads in the Washington Times, Chicago Tribune and the conservative newspaper Human Events. The group is now eyeing buys in the New York Post and USA Today.
Schultzs Web site, which had previously been dedicated to promoting Rep. Ron Pauls (R-Texas) insurgent presidential campaign, hosts an array of documents and web videos offering conflicting arguments - that Obama was born outside of the United States, or that he lost his citizenship upon moving to Indonesia with his mother and step father and then must have re-entered the United States illegally.
To those of you still clinging desperately to the hope that this story will be a magic bullet that disqualifies Obama from being president: doesnt it bother you just a little bit that youre joining forces with Paulians and 9/11 Truthers?
(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...
I’m sure they’ll find something.
Little Green Footballs thinks we are kooks ping.
If it amounts to nothing, why not show the valid certificate,
or college records?
Post 30 threads a day, sputtering and sobbing, "B-B-B-BUT HE'S A KENYAN!!!" as Obama sits in the Oval Office, signing important legislation that completely flies under our radar as Free Republic has turned into Conspiracy Central, posting nothing but Leo Donofrio's latest blog entries as all the rational FReepers have given up and left and no real news gets posted here and commented on anymore.
Agreed. And “30 threads a day” is not hyperbole. My suggestion is that there be one thread on the issue and if the SC moves on it - fine BUT if they dismiss it (and they will) let’s focus on regrouping.
~zipping my lip~
~giving Drew a thumbs up~
I don’t see how the Constitution is ‘nothing’, or that people are ‘idiotbloggers’ for wanting to ascertain the truth about something they question which is a legal issue? Seems to me that if there is nothing to it it could be handled quickly by merely making the documents available to all.
You’re quite right.
It’s also quite strange how the anti-constitutionalists use the Alinski method of the communists to try to suppress freedom of speech about the issue.
Well maybe that part isn’t so strange.
I think it is quite the reverse. If you want to talk about being marginalized let’s look at the folks pushing this issue.
My observation is that folks dissenting on this are called trolls, Obama lovers, unpatriotic, sheep and worse. Some folks in fact ARE posting 30 articles a day that add nothing to the story.
I don’t think anyone is saying that, if true, it isn’t significant. However, the emphasis on it is wildly disproportionate to other issues.
Folks want to “argue” the issue which is an asinine exercise of intellectual self pleasure. The Supremes have it. When, in my view, they drop it, it will be time for everyone to roll up their sleeves and WORK. That means getting off the damn computer a few hours a week.
Even a stopped clock is correct twice/day so why would it bother anybody if these people are occasionally right?
Doesn't it bother any of them that all of his records are closely held secrets? Apparently, there is no need for the peons to have knowledge...our elites will determine what info we need to possess, and what will be fed to us in our own best interest, of course.
The fact is that this IS a question as to the meaning of our Constitution. Should now another portion of our Constitution be rendered meaningless? Obama has admitted to having dual citizenship at birth and then even as an adult followed up by showing dual loyalties when involving himself in the presidential campaign in Kenya. Then of course he was also made an Indonesian citizen during childhood and had even (it seems) to have followed up on this as an adult by travelling to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
But I guess the kooks at little green footballs think all of this is fine and that the Constitution need not apply.
No one is “suppressing” anything.
They'll have a conniption fit over it. Charles saw quite a while ago the potential for moonbattery in this topic, so he put the kibosh on it on his own site. A wise move, in my opinion. When imagination takes over memes develop which take a straightforward topic into dangerously goofy territory. The left is obviously playing this tendency for all it's worth.
So then you think that he is going to release his birth certificate sometime soon???
We will keep the story alive. There is much more to this than the silly 911 “truthers”, yet, they kept that ridiculous story alive. All Obi has to do is have Hawaii release certified copies of his certificate to the press. He is the president elect! Why can’t he get them to release his records? Or better, what is he hiding?
Again - what are YOU going to do when this amounts to nothing?
Sit on your computer all day and post that Obama is illegitimate?
"Regrouping" on what? Just curious about what that means...
Be specific - what do you mean by “fight”?
Sitting on your computer all day?
“no amount of name-calling, taunts or questions of sanity, patriotism or intelligence will change that fact. Those tactics only work on the weak-minded and those without the courage of their convictions.”
Getting directly involved on the local level. Run for office. Participate in local conservative groups. START a local conservative group.
NH is a great example of conservatives getting fat, dumb, and happy. And look what happened.
And by “keeping the story alive” you will accomplish...?
lol, I would rather join forces with them than Obama, which is what little green footballs is doing. I don't know if Obama is eligible to be president or not, but I am not willing to give him a pass just because some moron with a blog says I should.
That’s your answer? LOL
While I realize you’re hoping that I’ll propose some kind of violent action so you can run to the moderators with it I’ll say yes I intend to continue writing to my congressman and demanding some action.
What will you do?
The bottom line is that he is hiding something and a lot of people are ok with that. I am uncomfortable with it. If he hides something like this, can we believe him when he says he isn't a Muslim or that he doesn't have the extrem views of his Pastor or Ayers. Or, that 2nd Amendment folks should not fear him and should stop stocking up?
Hussein should by now be up to 1 million dollars in billable hours for this nothing. What IS this nothing.
This statement needs to be cast in bronze and set at the entryway to FR. It applies to all topics which can decay into powerless irrationality.
Dont act like a child. Is it you who will decide that it is over and the issue amounts to nothing? I will do what I can as long as there is a movement out there that I feel is worth supporting, be it by donating money and or time or my opinion in the public square.
Cool your jets my paranoid friend.
In answer to your question - see post 26.
what is this truther garbage, it isn’t even a word?
Awareness that we are dealing with a very dishonest and coniving person. We can increase the publics awareness, if we can avoid or overcome being pigeoned holed as quacks by the media, the other lefties, and our own people who just want to give Obi a chance.
You and others continue to avoid specifics.
Take a hypothetical - and likely - situation:
It’s March 2009 and the birth certificate is legally off the table. All paths for redress have been explored and exhausted. What will you be doing?
Anyone here know who Greg Oden is? He’s the 20yr old basketball ‘superstar’ that looks to be 40 years old.
The guy could run for president and no one would question his age.
That’s why you look into these things.
Never read green football, now I know why.
Yeah - you’re pretty brave - stamping your feet in a very conservative forum. What a man!
Yes, it does. But even a broken clock is right twice a day...
The D'Onforio suit is the latest and greatest example. BO is not a citizen because his father was Kenyan, and this is settled law and everyone knows it. Yet if you go through the hundreds of posts on the BC posted before the election, not one of these constitutional scholars posted this opinion, it only mattered that he was born in Kenya, or that his mother and step-father moved to Indonesia and "renounced" his citizenship. It is getting tiring.
Whats it to you? No one is forcing you to read them. If you dislike them, ignore them. No one is forcing anyone on FR to read about Obamas citizenship. Again, I have to ask, why do you care? Do you want Obama to be president?
Good luck with that...
You and others continue to avoid specifics.
Take a hypothetical - and likely - situation:
Its March 2009 and the birth certificate is legally off the table. All paths for redress have been explored and exhausted. What will you be doing?
Why do you think that anyone has to answer you as to specifically what they will do in what if scenerios?
I have seen many things suggested already that I think are good alternative types of action in regards to this issue.
1. Join a grassroots movement that demands that this issue be addressed (in the future) to those who will be running for office in the Congress.
2. Continue to support legal action before the Court.
3. Continue to support grassroot movements that demand that current members of Congress address this issue.
4. Etc .
Why do you think it is alright to render another part of Constitution as meaningless?
This has about the same weight as the arguments made against George W. Bush, that he went AWOL on his National Guard service in some manner, “fake but accurate”.
They may or may not come out better than Dan Rather, so far as their reputations go. But obama is going to be in the Oval Office, come January 20, 2009. And it is going to resemble the regime of the “Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001”, to a remarkable degree.
I really do see the coming balkanization of the Untied States. And that may not be a bad thing.
Re my #43: I had not read down to yours yet. Great minds think alike!
He cares because a few obnoxious jerks have been pushing this issue and trying to stomp on anyone who dissents. They’re also flooding the site with redundant posts.
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