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Nirth Certifikit Kookery: Promoted by Truthers and Paulians
Little Green Footballs ^ | December 8, 2008

Posted on 12/08/2008 6:46:59 AM PST by Scarchin

Anyone want to guess which idiotbloggers are taking part in these nirth certifikit conference calls?

Each week a small group of people running websites and blogs dedicated to the story participate in a conference call to discuss the latest news and how to advance the story. Between 5 and 10 people call in, most of whom know little about each other except for their shared interest in Obama’s citizenship.

One of the frequent participants in the conference calls is Bob Schultz, who heads the “We the People Foundation” which has raised tens of thousands of dollars raising questions about Obama’s background and promoting Berg’s legal action with full-page ads in the Washington Times, Chicago Tribune and the conservative newspaper Human Events. The group is now eyeing buys in the New York Post and USA Today.

Schultz’s Web site, which had previously been dedicated to promoting Rep. Ron Paul’s (R-Texas) insurgent presidential campaign, hosts an array of documents and web videos offering conflicting arguments - that Obama was born outside of the United States, or that he lost his citizenship upon moving to Indonesia with his mother and step father and then must have re-entered the United States illegally.

To those of you still clinging desperately to the hope that this story will be a magic bullet that disqualifies Obama from being president: doesn’t it bother you just a little bit that you’re joining forces with Paulians and 9/11 Truthers?

(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: behonest; birthcert; birthcertificate; greenpuke; littlegreenpunk; showthecert; stbc
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I wonder what folks who are obsessing over this plan on doing when it amounts to nothing.
1 posted on 12/08/2008 6:46:59 AM PST by Scarchin
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To: Scarchin

I’m sure they’ll find something.


2 posted on 12/08/2008 6:48:09 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Scarchin; LucyT; pissant; FreeAtlanta

Little Green Footballs thinks we are kooks ping.


3 posted on 12/08/2008 6:49:13 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Scarchin

If it amounts to nothing, why not show the valid certificate,
or college records?


4 posted on 12/08/2008 6:50:15 AM PST by Lesforlife
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To: Lesforlife

Who knows?


5 posted on 12/08/2008 6:51:21 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin
I wonder what folks who are obsessing over this plan on doing when it amounts to nothing.

Post 30 threads a day, sputtering and sobbing, "B-B-B-BUT HE'S A KENYAN!!!" as Obama sits in the Oval Office, signing important legislation that completely flies under our radar as Free Republic has turned into Conspiracy Central, posting nothing but Leo Donofrio's latest blog entries as all the rational FReepers have given up and left and no real news gets posted here and commented on anymore.

6 posted on 12/08/2008 6:55:53 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Scarchin
It is quite strange how there is such an effort to marginalize those who have what is essentially a simple question that could easily be dismissed if Obama would simply allow the public to view the original document.
7 posted on 12/08/2008 6:59:23 AM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: Drew68

Agreed. And “30 threads a day” is not hyperbole. My suggestion is that there be one thread on the issue and if the SC moves on it - fine BUT if they dismiss it (and they will) let’s focus on regrouping.


8 posted on 12/08/2008 7:00:42 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Alia

~zipping my lip~


9 posted on 12/08/2008 7:00:45 AM PST by jla (Admirer of Jefferson, Reagan & Palin)
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To: Drew68
That's why it's good to get it all on the table BEFORE he takes office. They could put it to rest rather easily, but for whatever reason, they haven't.

The fact that the press is silent on what is happening now at the SCOTUS is rather telling. Were it Bush, don't you think it'd be splattered over every news agency in the world?
10 posted on 12/08/2008 7:02:53 AM PST by tenger (If we don't stay on them, they'll get it wrong...Joe Soucheray)
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To: Drew68

~giving Drew a thumbs up~


11 posted on 12/08/2008 7:04:56 AM PST by jla (Admirer of Jefferson, Reagan & Palin)
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To: Scarchin

I don’t see how the Constitution is ‘nothing’, or that people are ‘idiotbloggers’ for wanting to ascertain the truth about something they question which is a legal issue? Seems to me that if there is nothing to it it could be handled quickly by merely making the documents available to all.


12 posted on 12/08/2008 7:07:51 AM PST by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: highlander_UW

You’re quite right.

It’s also quite strange how the anti-constitutionalists use the Alinski method of the communists to try to suppress freedom of speech about the issue.

Well maybe that part isn’t so strange.


13 posted on 12/08/2008 7:08:14 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: highlander_UW

I think it is quite the reverse. If you want to talk about being marginalized let’s look at the folks pushing this issue.

My observation is that folks dissenting on this are called trolls, Obama lovers, unpatriotic, sheep and worse. Some folks in fact ARE posting 30 articles a day that add nothing to the story.

I don’t think anyone is saying that, if true, it isn’t significant. However, the emphasis on it is wildly disproportionate to other issues.

Folks want to “argue” the issue which is an asinine exercise of intellectual self pleasure. The Supremes have it. When, in my view, they drop it, it will be time for everyone to roll up their sleeves and WORK. That means getting off the damn computer a few hours a week.


14 posted on 12/08/2008 7:08:16 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: autumnraine
"...doesn’t it bother you just a little bit that you’re joining forces with Paulians and 9/11 Truthers?"

Even a stopped clock is correct twice/day so why would it bother anybody if these people are occasionally right?

Doesn't it bother any of them that all of his records are closely held secrets? Apparently, there is no need for the peons to have knowledge...our elites will determine what info we need to possess, and what will be fed to us in our own best interest, of course.

15 posted on 12/08/2008 7:08:25 AM PST by penowa
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To: Scarchin

The fact is that this IS a question as to the meaning of our Constitution. Should now another portion of our Constitution be rendered meaningless? Obama has admitted to having dual citizenship at birth and then even as an adult followed up by showing dual loyalties when involving himself in the presidential campaign in Kenya. Then of course he was also made an Indonesian citizen during childhood and had even (it seems) to have followed up on this as an adult by travelling to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.

But I guess the kooks at little green footballs think all of this is fine and that the Constitution need not apply.


16 posted on 12/08/2008 7:09:23 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: hedgetrimmer

No one is “suppressing” anything.


17 posted on 12/08/2008 7:09:52 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin
I wonder what folks who are obsessing over this plan on doing when it amounts to nothing.

They'll have a conniption fit over it. Charles saw quite a while ago the potential for moonbattery in this topic, so he put the kibosh on it on his own site. A wise move, in my opinion. When imagination takes over memes develop which take a straightforward topic into dangerously goofy territory. The left is obviously playing this tendency for all it's worth.

18 posted on 12/08/2008 7:10:42 AM PST by Skid Marx
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To: Scarchin
I wonder what folks who are obsessing over this plan on doing when it amounts to nothing.

So then you think that he is going to release his birth certificate sometime soon???

19 posted on 12/08/2008 7:11:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Scarchin

We will keep the story alive. There is much more to this than the silly 911 “truthers”, yet, they kept that ridiculous story alive. All Obi has to do is have Hawaii release certified copies of his certificate to the press. He is the president elect! Why can’t he get them to release his records? Or better, what is he hiding?


20 posted on 12/08/2008 7:11:19 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Scarchin
I wonder what folks who are obsessing over this plan on doing when it amounts to nothing.

The same could be asked of you about the constitution. I'm guessing you'll curl up in the fetal position and refuse to fight.
21 posted on 12/08/2008 7:11:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: TheBigIf

Again - what are YOU going to do when this amounts to nothing?

Sit on your computer all day and post that Obama is illegitimate?


22 posted on 12/08/2008 7:11:49 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin
"...let’s focus on regrouping."

"Regrouping" on what? Just curious about what that means...

23 posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:04 AM PST by penowa
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To: cripplecreek

Be specific - what do you mean by “fight”?

Sitting on your computer all day?


24 posted on 12/08/2008 7:13:27 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin

“no amount of name-calling, taunts or questions of sanity, patriotism or intelligence will change that fact. Those tactics only work on the weak-minded and those without the courage of their convictions.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2144862/posts


25 posted on 12/08/2008 7:14:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: penowa

Getting directly involved on the local level. Run for office. Participate in local conservative groups. START a local conservative group.

NH is a great example of conservatives getting fat, dumb, and happy. And look what happened.


26 posted on 12/08/2008 7:15:12 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: FreeAtlanta

And by “keeping the story alive” you will accomplish...?


27 posted on 12/08/2008 7:15:56 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin
“To those of you still clinging desperately to the hope that this story will be a magic bullet that disqualifies Obama from being president: doesn’t it bother you just a little bit that you’re joining forces with Paulians and 9/11 Truthers?”

lol, I would rather join forces with them than Obama, which is what little green footballs is doing. I don't know if Obama is eligible to be president or not, but I am not willing to give him a pass just because some moron with a blog says I should.

28 posted on 12/08/2008 7:16:09 AM PST by monday
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To: cripplecreek

That’s your answer? LOL


29 posted on 12/08/2008 7:16:43 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin

While I realize you’re hoping that I’ll propose some kind of violent action so you can run to the moderators with it I’ll say yes I intend to continue writing to my congressman and demanding some action.

What will you do?


30 posted on 12/08/2008 7:16:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: penowa; autumnraine
I feel those who want this to simply go away are more appt to believe, "I am with the government. I am here to help." or, "I am with the government. Move along, there is nothing to see here."

The bottom line is that he is hiding something and a lot of people are ok with that. I am uncomfortable with it. If he hides something like this, can we believe him when he says he isn't a Muslim or that he doesn't have the extrem views of his Pastor or Ayers. Or, that 2nd Amendment folks should not fear him and should stop stocking up?

31 posted on 12/08/2008 7:17:06 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Scarchin

Hussein should by now be up to 1 million dollars in billable hours for this nothing. What IS this nothing.


32 posted on 12/08/2008 7:17:18 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: Scarchin
I don’t think anyone is saying that, if true, it isn’t significant. However, the emphasis on it is wildly disproportionate to other issues.

This statement needs to be cast in bronze and set at the entryway to FR. It applies to all topics which can decay into powerless irrationality.

33 posted on 12/08/2008 7:18:06 AM PST by Skid Marx
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To: Scarchin

Don’t act like a child. Is it you who will decide that it is over and the issue amounts to nothing? I will do what I can as long as there is a movement out there that I feel is worth supporting, be it by donating money and or time or my opinion in the public square.


34 posted on 12/08/2008 7:18:24 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: cripplecreek

Cool your jets my paranoid friend.

In answer to your question - see post 26.


35 posted on 12/08/2008 7:18:44 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin

what is this truther garbage, it isn’t even a word?


36 posted on 12/08/2008 7:19:22 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Scarchin
And by “keeping the story alive” you will accomplish...?

Awareness that we are dealing with a very dishonest and coniving person. We can increase the publics awareness, if we can avoid or overcome being pigeoned holed as quacks by the media, the other lefties, and our own people who just want to give Obi a chance.

37 posted on 12/08/2008 7:19:46 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Scarchin
Getting directly involved on the local level. Run for office. Participate in local conservative groups. START a local conservative group.

That's just plain hillarious. A "conservative" who doesn't have the manhood to stand up and demand that the constitution is followed. You should fit right in with the RINO herd.
38 posted on 12/08/2008 7:21:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: TheBigIf

You and others continue to avoid specifics.

Take a hypothetical - and likely - situation:

It’s March 2009 and the birth certificate is legally off the table. All paths for redress have been explored and exhausted. What will you be doing?


39 posted on 12/08/2008 7:21:59 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Skid Marx
B-b-b-he's a Kenyan...it's an African/Indonesian/Moslem/Communist plot to take over America. Obama plans to make us all wear kufis and ride camels to work...I know it, because I read it on the internet.

And...he smokes cigarettes, which proves he is the Anti-Christ.

He turned me into a newt.

Remember: Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean everyone isn't out to get you.
40 posted on 12/08/2008 7:22:07 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: Scarchin

Anyone here know who Greg Oden is? He’s the 20yr old basketball ‘superstar’ that looks to be 40 years old.

The guy could run for president and no one would question his age.

That’s why you look into these things.

Never read green football, now I know why.


41 posted on 12/08/2008 7:23:06 AM PST by Doug TX
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah - you’re pretty brave - stamping your feet in a very conservative forum. What a man!


42 posted on 12/08/2008 7:23:33 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin
...doesn’t it bother you just a little bit that you’re joining forces with Paulians and 9/11 Truthers?

Yes, it does. But even a broken clock is right twice a day...

43 posted on 12/08/2008 7:23:56 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Scarchin
The problem I have with the BC conspiricists is the same one I have with the truthers. They flit from theory to theory, jumping on whatever the latest "big news" is. The COLB is definately his sisters, yet they have no proof but some post from September. The Grandmother has said she was present at the birth, same thing no proof other than some scratchy audiotape. Yesterday that was improved to there are signed affadavits from the Grandmother, brother, sister, Doctor and the local police.

The D'Onforio suit is the latest and greatest example. BO is not a citizen because his father was Kenyan, and this is settled law and everyone knows it. Yet if you go through the hundreds of posts on the BC posted before the election, not one of these constitutional scholars posted this opinion, it only mattered that he was born in Kenya, or that his mother and step-father moved to Indonesia and "renounced" his citizenship. It is getting tiring.

44 posted on 12/08/2008 7:24:21 AM PST by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: Drew68
“Post 30 threads a day, sputtering and sobbing, “B-B-B-BUT HE'S A KENYAN!!!” as Obama sits in the Oval Office, signing important legislation that completely flies under our radar as Free Republic has turned into Conspiracy Central,...”

Whats it to you? No one is forcing you to read them. If you dislike them, ignore them. No one is forcing anyone on FR to read about Obamas citizenship. Again, I have to ask, why do you care? Do you want Obama to be president?

45 posted on 12/08/2008 7:25:02 AM PST by monday
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To: FreeAtlanta

Good luck with that...


46 posted on 12/08/2008 7:25:12 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin

“You and others continue to avoid specifics.
Take a hypothetical - and likely - situation:
It’s March 2009 and the birth certificate is legally off the table. All paths for redress have been explored and exhausted. What will you be doing?”

Why do you think that anyone has to answer you as to “specifically” what they will do in “what if” scenerios?

I have seen many things suggested already that I think are good alternative types of action in regards to this issue.

1. Join a grassroots movement that demands that this issue be addressed (in the future) to those who will be running for office in the Congress.
2. Continue to support legal action before the Court.
3. Continue to support grassroot movements that demand that current members of Congress address this issue.
4. Etc….

Why do you think it is alright to render another part of Constitution as meaningless?


47 posted on 12/08/2008 7:26:16 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Scarchin

This has about the same weight as the arguments made against George W. Bush, that he went AWOL on his National Guard service in some manner, “fake but accurate”.

They may or may not come out better than Dan Rather, so far as their reputations go. But obama is going to be in the Oval Office, come January 20, 2009. And it is going to resemble the regime of the “Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001”, to a remarkable degree.

I really do see the coming balkanization of the Untied States. And that may not be a bad thing.


48 posted on 12/08/2008 7:26:33 AM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!")
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To: penowa
Even a stopped clock is correct twice/day...

Re my #43: I had not read down to yours yet. Great minds think alike!

49 posted on 12/08/2008 7:27:34 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: monday

He cares because a few obnoxious jerks have been pushing this issue and trying to stomp on anyone who dissents. They’re also flooding the site with redundant posts.


50 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:13 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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