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Wanted President-Elect to "Put Something Together . . . Something Big"
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Posted on 12/09/2008 10:01:22 AM PST by OL Hickory

Fitzgerald said "there is no allegation in the complaint that the President-elect was aware of it and that is all I can say." His comment did not close the door on the possibility that Obama or someone on his staff may have known of some aspect of the Govenror's demands.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: blagojevich; bleepgate; chicago; illinois; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; seat; senate
THAT DOG DON'T HUNT!!!!
1 posted on 12/09/2008 10:01:23 AM PST by OL Hickory
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To: OL Hickory
Fitzgerald said "there is no allegation in the complaint that the President-elect was aware of it and that is all I can say."

Note that Fitzgerald didn't say Obama wasn't aware of it; just that it wasn't mentioned in the indictment.

2 posted on 12/09/2008 10:06:10 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

Merry Fitzmas obama


3 posted on 12/09/2008 10:07:00 AM PST by italianquaker
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To: OL Hickory

I believe that the timing of this arrest was accelerated by Fitz because he had reason to believe that Zero was indeed about to put together a nice little offer to Blago for “naming rights” to his old Senate seat.


4 posted on 12/09/2008 10:07:08 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: OL Hickory

I think the voice is the governor’s staff saying his wife would get appointments to boards by the president. Wonder what the source of that comment is. Hard to believe Obama didn’t reach out to the gov on the senate seat. I would have, without the bribe of course. : )


5 posted on 12/09/2008 10:07:15 AM PST by nufsed
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To: SeaHawkFan

“Note that Fitzgerald didn’t say Obama wasn’t aware of it; just that it wasn’t mentioned in the indictment.”

I was intrigued by how closely Fitz parsed his reply to that question. Be still my heart...


6 posted on 12/09/2008 10:07:44 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: OL Hickory
The former salt and pepper shakedown and scam artist team!


7 posted on 12/09/2008 10:09:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger for US el presidente 2112!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Those of us with half a brain, trust Fitzy as much as we trust the Zer0!


8 posted on 12/09/2008 10:10:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger for US el presidente 2112!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Something tells me that we are only at the very beginning of a huge trial.


9 posted on 12/09/2008 10:10:49 AM PST by princess leah
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To: OL Hickory
I'll say this about Patrick Fitzgerald: this guy is a modern day Eliot Ness - a one man crime and corruption fighter.

If we had a couple dozen more guys like him constantly watching over our politicians, we wouldn't have the vile government we do today.

10 posted on 12/09/2008 10:10:55 AM PST by jpl (Does anybody have seven hundred billion dollars I can borrow?)
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To: princess leah

Something tells me this will all go way in January or February.


11 posted on 12/09/2008 10:13:23 AM PST by arthurus (Old Age beat itself with its ownguile and lack of enthusiasm.)
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To: jpl

Thanfully, I feel safe knowing Scooter was taken down./ sarc


12 posted on 12/09/2008 10:16:02 AM PST by PghBaldy (I shall call him President Little Squirt... Or maybe POTUK or POK on Jan 20)
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To: arthurus

We’ll be able to see how far this reaches, maybe, by how many people start to jump ship from their “appointments” which have not passed the Senate yet.

In my view, it’s going to be really really interesting to see who starts to distance themselves from the p-e, maybe even giving back some of those cabinet appointments in favor of spending “more time with their families”

just a loose thought running around inside my head


13 posted on 12/09/2008 10:16:38 AM PST by quintr
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To: princess leah

Hilarious, the guy isnt even in the WH and now the media have got their hands on an enormous story that is going to bog down Obama for years.

I’m wetting myself laughing. Could be the shortest Presidency ever if the media finally decides to get a pound of flesh.


14 posted on 12/09/2008 10:18:49 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SeaHawkFan
Note that Fitzgerald didn't say Obama wasn't aware of it; just that it wasn't mentioned in the indictment.

This is pure speculation:

Fitzgerald doesn't need to name him in the indictment at this point, and if he's investigating Obama, he doesn't want to tip his hand now. Now that he's given proper coverage to all of Blago's counterparties, they're going to come crawling out of the woodwork with shakedown stories. I'd say the chances are pretty good that Obama and his campaign are going to turn up in this mess. Hard to imagine Obama, Daley, and Blagojevich living within 5 miles of each other and they're respective entourages weren't in regular communication.

15 posted on 12/09/2008 10:19:12 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Lancey Howard
I believe that the timing of this arrest was accelerated by Fitz because he had reason to believe that Zero was indeed about to put together a nice little offer to Blago for “naming rights” to his old Senate seat.

Of course the Obama organization was involved. All these insiders are from the same neighborhood.

I think it's unfortunate that they didn't let this thing go for a while...There is always the possibility they didn't want the dots connected directly to Obama.

16 posted on 12/09/2008 10:19:22 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: OL Hickory

The dude’s got sand in his eyes...


17 posted on 12/09/2008 10:19:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Lancey Howard

Obama just wasn’t willing to pay enough for the seat to go to the person of his choice.


18 posted on 12/09/2008 10:19:56 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Lancey Howard
I believe that the timing of this arrest was accelerated by Fitz because he had reason to believe that Zero was indeed about to put together a nice little offer to Blago for “naming rights” to his old Senate seat.

I don't buy that. If something was ABOUT to happen with Zero, he would have waited and reeled him in, too. What this situation does, is give Fitz the ability to investigate Obama through the witnesses and counterparties who are going to come forward with Blago stories, and perhaps lead to Obama. Fitz doesn't have the political cover to go directly at Obama, but indirectly, this Blago arrest could turn out to be a goldmine.

19 posted on 12/09/2008 10:24:54 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: sunmars
Hilarious, the guy isnt even in the WH and now the media have got their hands on an enormous story that is going to bog down Obama for years.

You think? I just did a quick survey of Fox, MSNBC and CNN. Fox is on it. MSNBC has a live press conference on Jay Leno's new contract, CNN is talking about who's going to 'benefit' from Obama's 'infrastructure build-out'. We'll have to see what little dribbles into the ABCNBCCBS evening news.

20 posted on 12/09/2008 10:25:39 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: sunmars

Could be the shortest Presidency ever if the media finally decides to get a pound of flesh.

They are going to have to do something to generate revenue if they want to stay in the game.


21 posted on 12/09/2008 10:25:52 AM PST by Cyclone59 (still speechless over the election)
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To: OL Hickory

These three items give BO alot of cover:

Pg 63 of the complaint

ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are belived to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he as to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “m@th#rfu@ker” [the President-elect] his senator. F#@k him. For nothing? F#ck him.”

Pg 65

ROD BLAGOJECICH states that he will appoint “[Senate Candidate 1]... but if they feel like they can do this and not f#2king give me anything... then I’ll f#@king go [Senate Candidate 5].”

Pg 66

ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he know that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “the’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. F#@k them.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1209081rod13.html


22 posted on 12/09/2008 10:28:51 AM PST by Canali
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To: dragnet2
I think it's unfortunate that they didn't let this thing go for a while...There is always the possibility they didn't want the dots connected directly to Obama.

I can't believe political bias would get in the way of someone becoming the first attorney to indict a president-elect on criminal charges. The book royalties alone would provide for a very early retirement. If there's any connection to Obama, we're going to find out.

23 posted on 12/09/2008 10:30:46 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Canali

I’ve heard that Chicago media is reporting that Rahm Emmanuel is mixed up in dropping Blago in it, could it be that Blago wouldnt play ball with Obama, so Obama had him nuked, lets hope if he did that Blago pays it back in kind.


24 posted on 12/09/2008 10:31:28 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Paine in the Neck
Wake Up! “It Doesn't Matter”! Please tell me when “IT” did?

Too funny, Marxists are moving into “Da’ Man's House” and people think it is the 1950’s. The deed is done. Sorry, smell the decaf.

25 posted on 12/09/2008 10:31:59 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I can't believe political bias would get in the way of someone becoming the first attorney to indict a president-elect on criminal charges. The book royalties alone would provide for a very early retirement. If there's any connection to Obama, we're going to find out.

Don't bet on it...The government corruption runs deep..Would not be the first time those at the top have been isolated and protected, while the "little" guys get whacked.

Imagine the blowback if they went after Obama at this stage.

26 posted on 12/09/2008 10:37:33 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: gathersnomoss
Wake Up! “It Doesn't Matter”! Please tell me when “IT” did?

Too funny, Marxists are moving into “Da’ Man's House” and people think it is the 1950’s. The deed is done. Sorry, smell the decaf.

Huh? You talkin' to me?

27 posted on 12/09/2008 10:38:40 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: SeaHawkFan

>>>>>>Note that Fitzgerald didn’t say Obama wasn’t aware of it; just that it wasn’t mentioned in the indictment. <<<<<<

In the Plame/Libby matter, Fitzgerald developed a public track record of semantic hairsplitting, rhetorial nuance, and plain old doubletalk.

Fitz repeatedly asserted from his podium that Plame’s job was “classified” (as are Langley janitors and cooks), but was very careful not to say “covert”, which if anyone recalls was the entirety of the accusation Fitzgerald was charged to investigate.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 10:42:15 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

The media isn’t running things, just sayin’.


29 posted on 12/09/2008 10:43:36 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: OL Hickory
"there is no allegation in the complaint that the President-elect was aware of it and that is all I can say."

Two thoughts instantly pop into my head.

1. Why then is there mention of the Gov. wanting an ambassadorship.

2. I wonder if Fitz is angling for a judgeship somewhere high?

30 posted on 12/09/2008 10:46:27 AM PST by oldbrowser (bipartisanship means capitulation)
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To: OL Hickory

Wonder what’s going on over at DU? (Not that I’ll wade into that sewer)

All their celebration of “Fitzmas” in the Plame/Rove affair reminds me of the old saying “Karma’s a B*&ch”


31 posted on 12/09/2008 10:46:42 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: OL Hickory

Gee, do you think Zero will fire all the U.S. Attorneys and put an end to this? Congress probably wouldn’t interfere if he did, just like they did for Bush. /sarc off


32 posted on 12/09/2008 10:47:57 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Lancey Howard

Good point — Fitz may have protected Obama and/or his staff by going public before any deal could be closed for Blagovich to name Valerie Jarret or whomever......

Why not allow the “transaction” to take place?

Who on Obama’s staff was communicating with Blagovich?

Why did Fitz not let the Blagovich dealing of the Senate seat go through before making the arrest?


33 posted on 12/09/2008 10:48:18 AM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Suffer the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: sunmars

Rham is allegedly the [President-elect Advisor] listed in the complaint. I think he’s first mentioned on page 70. In there is mentioned “5th CD thing” which is Rahms congressional seat, the 5th Congressional District.

Found the full .pdf

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/files/affidavit.pdf


34 posted on 12/09/2008 10:52:19 AM PST by Canali
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To: Enchante

Jan 20, won’t Obama be able to shut this down? Just curious. Doesn’t the FBI work FOR the President?


35 posted on 12/09/2008 10:52:48 AM PST by queenkathy (Pray 4 Josh... www.carepages.com ( joshuaourwarrior) brain injury from allergy shot)
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To: queenkathy

Good luck , Clinton couldnt, Bush couldnt, it would smell even more if he tried.


36 posted on 12/09/2008 11:01:11 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Rutles4Ever
If something was ABOUT to happen with Zero, he would have waited and reeled him in, too.

Uh, that's the whole point.
Fitz DIDN'T wait.

37 posted on 12/09/2008 11:01:37 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jpl

Yep, our nation is turning into a cesspool, what a filthy rotten shame!


38 posted on 12/09/2008 11:04:24 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: Canali
That's an interesting document.

For instance, this section:

    107. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. ROD BLAGOJEVICH discussed with Advisor B his idea for a 501(c)(4) organization. Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win because Change to Win already has an existing stream of revenue and, therefore, “you won’t have stories in four years that they bought you off.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that he likes the 501(c)(4) idea because he knows it will be there in two years when he is no longer Governor, whereas Change to Win might not be.

39 posted on 12/09/2008 11:26:46 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: OL Hickory
I guess this means the B of A has a bit less to worry about regarding their loans to a former window and door company.

And, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the arrest has to do with protective custody as much as flight risk - or a preemptive gag order.
There's lots of names that might come out during an inquiry into current misdealing: as in "how do you think Dumbo Ears got that job in the first place?"

40 posted on 12/09/2008 11:29:11 AM PST by norton
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To: sunmars

I think that is a possibility. Obama wants his man in..probably Jones..Blago says F U...and he gets nailed.

Play ball or you are going down.

There is no way that all these guys aren’t interconnected. Rezko is connected to all of them.

Mob politics.....now the next time King Obama wants something you better think twice if you are going to screw him over.


41 posted on 12/09/2008 11:43:51 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: OL Hickory

This must be the most corrupt Office of the President Elect in the Republic’s history! ;^)


42 posted on 12/09/2008 11:48:56 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: OL Hickory
Fitzgerald said "there is no allegation in the complaint that the President-elect was aware of it and that is all I can say." His comment did not close the door on the possibility that Obama or someone on his staff may have known of some aspect of the Governor's demands.

His comment also did not close the door on the possibility that Obama directed the whole thing. It was a very Clintonian sort of comment, carefully worded so as not to actually say anything.

Of course, if Obama were a Republican, then Fitzgerald would have mentioned him by name in every paragraph of the complaint. He would also be giving press conferences about how the serious allegations about Obama must be investigated carefully, whether or not they are true.

43 posted on 12/09/2008 11:52:43 AM PST by kennedy (No relation to Teddy.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

I fall in love easily with good guys like Fitz :)


44 posted on 12/09/2008 12:42:45 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: nufsed

Hannity’s show today has the tape of David Axelrod stating that 0bama had met with the guv..you have to hear the tape because it is in direct reference to the seat emptied by bozo


45 posted on 12/09/2008 12:45:08 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

Thanx. Am I too late?


46 posted on 12/09/2008 2:21:53 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Canali

Your kidding right. Those statements make it obvious that Obama knew all about this even if he didn’t agree to Rod’s price. Did Obama turn Rod in? No. Because if he did, he wouldn’t have said that he didn’t know anything about it.


47 posted on 12/10/2008 12:49:51 PM PST by Javin
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