Skip to comments.Is the Judicial Review Allowed ONLY After the Electoral College Vote and Congressional Cert?
Posted on 12/15/2008 10:39:10 AM PST by stockpirate
Is this why the Donofrio v. Wells (NJ) case is still pending? Is it only after the Electoral College votes and Congress certifies the election, that the Supreme Court believes it may take action regarding the eligibility of presidential candidates? The cases currently before the court, except for the Berg (PA) case, are versus state secretaries of state, not against Barack Obama, but perhaps that does not make a difference.
Is it similar to a prosecutor only allowed to prosecute after the crime and not before?
"BTW, the SCOTUS has not denied Donofrio's NJ case, only his request for a stay while they confer over the Wrotnowski, CT case, Dec. 12."
I hope so. I heard Leo and Cort are pretty much off the grid now. Leo’s is avoiding Plains Radio and obviously that clown Lan Lanphere.
If anyone sees a response to this by Leo or anyone else - please post it. Leo and Cort are great patriots.
keep us posted
They won’t hear it...
The problem is...
Bush and the Bush Administration wants nothing to do with this issue, Vice President Cheney wants nothing to do or say about this issue, McCain and his previous campaign wants nothing to do with this issue, Governor Palin wants nothing to do with this issue and is looking forward to working with Obama, the Republican Party wants nothing to do with this issue, even Rush Limbaugh wants nothing to do with this issue, many other conservative websites want nothing to do with this issue, many here on Free Republic want nothing to do with this issue and (of course) the Democrats want nothing to do with this issue, along with Obama wanting nothing to do with this issue. Even the FBI wants nothing to do with it...
When you can get none of your own people in positions of authority to do something about the issue, you are *dead in the water*... And thats the way it is right now...
And now — today — US Supreme Court Denied... (with *no comment*)
I believe the mods frown upon repeated postings of the same reply, Star Traveler. It’s considered spamming.
How many times have you posted this, anyway?
You said — “How many times have you posted this, anyway?”
It’s the same kind of message that is posted — as with the one that gets posted with the birth certificate issue. When that one gets posted by the original poster, there is one poster that includes the very same info on each thread that is posted on this birth certificate issue.
Now, the point that I’m making, on each of the birth certificate threads, is simply — and being repeated for each thread — that no one in our own party, no one in our own media, no one of our own candidates, not even the FBI, not the Republican Party, itself, and even the Supreme Court — wants to do a thing about it.
It’s the same message. It’s difficult to change that message. It hasn’t changed since the Obama birth certificate issue *became* an issue... LOL..
There’s a difference between similar questions being asked by different people, and your cutting and pasting this same thing to every single thread on the topic.
It’s spamming, Star Traveler.
You said — “Its spamming, Star Traveler.”
How many ways can you say, Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin, the Republican Party, our media (their media... LOL...), the FBI, the Supreme Court and a whole host of other conservatives all say the same thing.
These are specific names of specific people doing “specific things” (namely “nothing”) about a specific issue.
Not too much “give and take” there... LOL...
You said — “Star is an idiot. For further proof, look to the following thread, and the one it references:
I knew some couldn’t read here, but I didn’t expect to find you in that category. I’m sorry to say, that now I see you’re in that category, too... LOL...
You should put on some glasses and see that you’re referring to *another person*... :-)
My, my..., if only some FReepers could read... LOL...
I get those keyboard commandos all the time with the “let it go” or “truther” or whatever. Well Soros kid wrote an editorial today on how he and his gang are working to get rid of the Electorial College.
The Second Amendment will be next. Meanwhile these POS keyboard commandos attack leo and other people trying to protect the Constitution.
Knock off the spamming.
I’m posting other comments to people on this issue....
You’re spamming - knock it off...
I must apologize for referring to Star Traveler as EveningStar.
Both have been saying similar, stupid things, about the court cases, but EveningStar was much worse.
Star Traveler keeps trolling these threads and I jumped on him after my prior involvement with the other “Star.”
I stand corrected.
What is it about these people who have “Star” in their name?
Please see 16.
It's just a popular name, or part of a name. STARWISE, for instance, has posted a number of threads pertaining to Obama's eligibility for office.
You said — “What is it about these people who have Star in their name?”
Hey..., I was the first... :-)
But, really, perhaps my insistence at saying that no one (who is qualified or is a leader or should) is going to do anything about Obama being qualified or not — in being President — is what is irritating. Sure it’s irritating, if you don’t want him to be President. But, that’s not my real point — to be irritating.
Rather, it’s to show that we really don’t have anyone or institutions or a methodology in which anyone really is going to do anything or is willing to do anything.
The absolutely more constructive thing to do — at this point in time — is to make sure that we change the vetting process for a Presidential Candidate, so that this same thing cannot happen again. That may require some state laws being added to require action on behalf of the Secretaries of State before they can legally put someone on the ballot.
If people are working “for the future” (in that regard), then fine. We should all uphold the Constitution by putting something in place in which we don’t have to get to this point, where someone is already elected, before we “vet” him...
If people are working all these lawsuits for the purpose of getting rid of Obama — well..., that’s just not going to work, because no one wants *anything* to do with that solution...
Work for the future, instead...
One more thing...
You said — Star Traveler keeps trolling these threads and I jumped on him after my prior involvement with the other Star.
Let me point out that I’m no more *trolling* these threads than anyone else who posts these threads or comments on them (some of the same people, over and over again — like me...).
Nope, what is happening is everyone who is interested in a *particular subject* will go to those threads and make comments. This is definitely a thread that I’m interested in (along with others, as you can see from my posting history). This just happens to be a “really hot topic” right now and I’m just as interested in it as the next guy around here at Free Republic.
Just because I have a *different viewpoint* than another poster doesn’t turn me into someone “trolling”.... LOL...
And being an apathetic defeatist is what you are right now and what Nehemiah and others in history overcame to accomplish great things for their people.
"I'd have given up unless I had believed to see the goodness of God in the land of the living." [Psalm 27:3]
Do you believe that ???
I understand what you are saying, and it is a shame we don’t apparently have any reasonable way to truly vet such issues, nor have leaders who support finding a better way.
You said — “And being an apathetic defeatist is what you are right now and what Nehemiah and others in history overcame to accomplish great things for their people.”
Okay, let’s use Nehemiah as an object example, in light of this Obama “qualification” to be President of the United States.
If I were to “apply” Nehemiah and his building of the walls of Jerusalem, to the present situation — it would be to not wring one’s hands about the state of affairs of the Constitution and worry about whether Obama is going to be President or not...
I would “build the walls” and continue doing what is needed for the correct application of the Constitution — from here on out — and forget about Obama.
Nehemiah wasn’t trying to close the barn door after the horse got out. He was building the walls so that Jerusalem would be protected *in the future* — after the walls were built.
SO..., in light of that application — the Obama horse has already gotten out of the barn. The Constitution is not dead, and it needs to be “reinforced” with some “wall-building” so we don’t let the “evil-doers” win like this in the future...
Now, that’s what I call a much more *productive* application...
The Constitution is not dead... “Build the walls” (of the Constitution); forget the horse that got out of the barn.
At this point in time, I think the best way to work through this problem is to use the obvious “energy” that is here on this issue, and get some state laws passed that require the Secretary of State to vet a candidate (for the Presidential election, and any other election requirement for other offices, too) before they can legally be put on the ballot.
And if someone is not legally vetted, then anyone who tries to vote for them, even if a write-in, then they can’t count that vote (for that candidate, that is...).
It’s necessary to do that, at this time, since we see what can happen...
Winking back ..........
Since Dec 17, 1999
Since Jan 30, 1998
LOL..., gosh I just haven’t seen you... what can I say... :-)
What???? So then ignoring a fundamental qualification for President right there in black and white in front of all of us is the first step to building the walls??? Get real, it merely creates more destruction. How about we start right now rather than wait. How about closing the barn door right now rahter than tomorrow. How about closing the breach in the wall right now before more damage is done by the one exploiting the breach.
Nehemiah wasnt trying to close the barn door after the horse got out. He was building the walls so that Jerusalem would be protected *in the future* after the walls were built.
Did he build the walls around the city with the enemies of Israel inside or outside??? And where were those promoting the defeatist attitude??? They were outside and were in league with the enemies.
SO..., in light of that application the Obama horse has already gotten out of the barn.
No it hasn't??? He is only the President elect who has not yet qualified according to the Constitution and the 20th Amendment thereof.
The Constitution is not dead, and it needs to be reinforced with some wall-building so we dont let the evil-doers win like this in the future.
And the place to start is right now and right here not in some neverneverland or nevernevertime of time but right here and right now on solid terra firma.
The Constitution is not dead... Build the walls (of the Constitution); forget the horse that got out of the barn.
That is what every criminal likes to hear. Forget about enforcing that law on me. Do it on the next guy.
I have news for you -- we are building the walls. You can either assist by doing your part or hinder the effort as you have been doing. It is your choice --- choose wisely!!!!!!!!
You said — “I have news for you — we are building the walls. You can either assist by doing your part or hinder the effort as you have been doing. It is your choice -— choose wisely!!!!!!!!”
I’ll choose to work on putting a mechanism in place to vet candidates *before* the election so that we don’t have this problem with a Constitutional issue again. That’s where my work will be.
As far as Obama is concerned, you’re beating a dead horse... LOL...
[AND..., I’ll keep saying that you’re beating a dead horse, whether it’s right or not. By the way, have you ever heard about William Ayers? I thought so. Is he in jail? I didn’t think so... That’s an example... Why aren’t you doing something to put Ayers in jail? Well, because it’s “beating a dead horse”... you’re simply not going to be able to do it... or haven’t you figured that out yet. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. There’s a point at which you can’t do a particular thing you want to have done, even if it is the right thing to do... ]
What do you mean "will be"??? Why not now??? Everything with you is tomorrow. What's wrong with today???? Get busy with that and quit your diddling around here. We also have work to do which, by your own admission, does not include you.
As far as Obama is concerned, youre beating a dead horse... LOL...
I thought you said that it was already out of the barn -- now it's dead. Anyway, if we are, then that little mechanism you are dreaming of won't matter anyway. If the Constitution can be ignored on an issue as clear as this, then what makes you think that your little mechanism won't as well???
You said — “Why not now???”
It’s already dark outside where I’m at... :-)
And, you said — “I thought you said that it was already out of the barn — now it’s dead.”
I guess I had better hire an editor to go over my posts, first, before posting them. I’m sure he would have corrected my sentence to read... “As far as the Obama issue is concerned, youre beating a dead horse... LOL...”
Excuse me, while I look around for an editor to hire... :-)
Will that be a horse of another cover :)
It’s all fine and dandy to “build walls” for the future. And maybe we’ll see some significant energy directed to this goal in the future.
But a plan for four years down the road has NO bearing on immediate issues.
You can plan on buying a new car in four years but that doesn’t address the flat tire you have now.
I’m still in favor of trying to fix our current flat tire.
And if someone wants to stop and help, fine. Otherwise I will work on the tire myself.
In the current context, I’ll continue pushing to have the constitution upheld regarding BO’s eligibility.
If people want to drive by and give me the finger (or call me a tin hat nut case) that’s OK.
And some like to say “drop this and work on real issues”.
Sure, I’d like to dress up my ride too - but I still want that tire fixed.
Please, do not spam the threads. Thank you.
You were saying... “Please, do not spam the threads. Thank you.”
I stopped putting in the same duplicate post when I was notified on this before (a bit earlier, yesterday, I think). Since then, I’ve been simply responding to the other posters on the subject matter, that’s all.
However, I do have the same several “themes” that I am responding with (about three or four themes on the issue). But, I try to respond uniquely on them.
I think that’s proper, in what I’m doing now..., since I’m replying to people who post back to me... Let me know if that’s not right... I’ll try to find out how to respond with my ideas. Thanks...
Star Traveler - you are a bore.
You said — “Go away.”
Well, I was away until someone pinged me.... LOL...
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