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1 posted on 12/20/2008 6:26:03 AM PST by RogerFGay
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2 posted on 12/20/2008 6:27:15 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
There are so many utterly fabricated child sex abuse claims, especially in divorce cases, that any Freeper who gets on a jury involving such a claim should be very dubious before acceping it and voting guilty. Although true, that's truly sad, because there are some genuine cases wher a real perv needs to go away.
3 posted on 12/20/2008 6:37:11 AM PST by libstripper
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To: RogerFGay

May justice be done.


4 posted on 12/20/2008 6:37:45 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: RogerFGay

Stories like this are the reason why I always have a healthy skepticism of child abuse cases, especially cases where there is NO physical evidence, NO adult witnesses and stories that seem unlikely. Its simply too easy for ambitious Child Protective Service agents and prosecutor’s to ruin lives based upon flimsy charges and docile juries. This is also another example of how CPS and prosecutors use absolute immunity as a shield to allow themselves to pursue blatantly unjust cases.


5 posted on 12/20/2008 6:40:05 AM PST by LuxAerterna
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To: RogerFGay

I’m very familiar with this having worked with a group that defends parent rights against the abuses of the schools, CPS, etc. Here in Utah we now have a law that requires the CPS to apply for a warrant... case workers no longer can take kids on their own.

The abuses are staggering. Children have been taken for no other reason than to fill beds. At one time every child taken by the State was evaluated by a shrink and 100% of them were declared mentally ill and placed on drugs. I’s swear that some of these CPS case workers destroy families just for fun.

The worst case I can recall seeing was one where a family court judge took a newborn infant from a mother who had a past abuse “allegation”... not conviction. Then the judge took a leave of absence and adopted the baby herself!

Much of our data on CPS abuse came from people who had quit the agency in disgust. Case after case where a CPS worker found no abuse, but the higher ups overruled the worker and took the kids.

THE CPS gets thousands of dollars for every child they can adopt out. This explains why they do what they do, much like the school victimize boys with the ADHD scam so they can get more federal dollars. It’s a money machine and tailor made for some sociopath to use his/her govt office to wreak havoc on society.


7 posted on 12/20/2008 6:55:24 AM PST by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: RogerFGay

Great!

Now we’ll hae a field day for abusers.


12 posted on 12/20/2008 7:38:36 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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13 posted on 12/20/2008 7:41:53 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: RogerFGay

Personally I believe that someone that actually does molest a child should recive a death sentence if convicted at trial.
Seriously.
That said and having dealt with social workers and child abuse agency’s as Police Officer and while working at a large Hospital I believe that far too many of thee people are so agenda driven and their methods of investigation so flawed that many innocent people get caught up in their traps and many real perverts get away because they are wasting time on the innocents.


15 posted on 12/20/2008 8:04:40 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: RogerFGay

If innocent people, mostly men, are exonerated then a grave injustice has been exposed. Wonder what the magnitude of this is nationwide?

Meanwhile the protected public skool educator class, where sexual abuse of children is running rampant, is all but ignored by the MSM and their sycophantic politicians.

In every other part of society if a charge of sexual abuse of a child or of rape is made against a male he is considered automatically guilty.


17 posted on 12/20/2008 8:13:48 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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19 posted on 12/20/2008 8:17:22 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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20 posted on 12/20/2008 8:22:16 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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But we hear from all sorts of FReepers that there are no wrongful convictions, that child molesters repeat over and over, and that every single one of them should be shot.

The last might be merciful.

21 posted on 12/20/2008 8:25:19 AM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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Anybody remember the imaginary “sex rings” in Wenatchee, WA.?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wenatche.htm

Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=WENATCHEE+CHILD+ABUSE&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Quotations:
-— “Wenatchee may be the worst example ever of mental health services being abused by a state, its social workers and hired therapists, to control and manage children who have been frightened and coerced into falsely accusing their parents and neighbors of the most heinous of crimes.” Dr. Phillip Esplin, a forensic psychologist and senior research consultant with the National Institute of Health’s Child Witness Project.

-—”The ghost won’t lie still: Ten years after first arrest, ‘sex-ring’ episode still haunts the community” Headline of a newspaper article written by Martin Salazar on 2004-APR-11.

-—”It began with the cry of a young girl and escalated into the victimization of dozens of citizens for allegedly committing horrific sex crimes against children. Soon families were broken up, adults were accused of heinous crimes and were prosecuted, without anyone questioning the methods of the so-called experts. Now, an independent attorney, who spent a year in Wenatchee, pieces together the story of one of the most blatant cases of misuse of power and miscarried justice since the McCarthy witch-hunts.” Review of the book “Witch Hunt” which chronicles the Wenatchee disaster.


29 posted on 12/22/2008 1:43:35 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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