(VANITY) Misnomered "Christmas" Carols

12/20/08 | Me

[the OlLine Rebel]

Being the nit-picker I am, it's more occurred to me lately that there are many popular Christmas-time carols that are NOT really "Christmas" if you pay attention.

Thought maybe we'd start a run-down of songs that aren't really "Christmas" even though they are treated like it.

I have to say this is based on truly POPULAR carols (although nothing wrong with mentioning some that aren't really known) and only on the lyrics I know.

1 category would be totally non-Christmas songs. The 2nd might be "marginal" songs, where perhaps the word "Christmas" is mentioned once, e.g., or some other obvious reference.

This would be great to separate the true Christmas songs from those perfect for liberals' Winter Festivals.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Category 1 (no mention at all): Sleigh Ride, Jingle Bells

Category 2 (marginal mention): [I'll have to get back to this]

Please list your thoughts!

[the OlLine Rebel]

More Cat 1: Let It Snow

[JoeProBono]

Bowie & Bing - Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy

[muawiyah]

The world's largest religion is Christianity. The world's second largest religion is Islam. The world's third largest religion is Santa Claus (repleat with the ancient images of red-nosed flying reindeer, the Sumerian version of Ho-Tai, the three Emperors, the child, winter scenes, Northern Lights, elves, a man dressed in the primary colors of Amanita Muscaria carrying a bag on his back and entering ti-pi's through the smoke-hole, and then leaving, and so on.

If you look further you can see "Little Red Man", Herb Woman, Reindeer Man, local versions of the Thor or Odin persona, and maybe even the three goddesses of the hearth.

It's quite amazing how that religion has not only hung on, but in fact spread ~ even to areas with no previous experience with Western religion.

Part of it might be that the religion of Santa Claus requires only that you come to the place of worship like a child. It's ethic is that you do good to the poor or those in need.

Ain't all that bad when you get down to it ~ no lopped heads for example.

[DManA]

Cat 1 - Walk’n in a winter wonderland.

[autumnraine]

Winter Wonderland

[DManA]

Cat 2 - Have a holly jolly christmas (lower case c intended)

[BykrBayb]

It Doesn’t Have To Be That Way by Jim Croce

[the OlLine Rebel]

Cat 1: Winter Wonderland, Frosty the Snowman

Cat 2: Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer

[DManA]

BTW when Burl Ives sings “kiss’r once fer me” is see a leering grin that gives me the creeps.

[trisham]

You are so right. I much prefer the more traditional Christmas music. “Joy to the World”, “Silent Night”, “O Holy Night”, etc, although I also like “The Nutcracker Suite”.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Mentioned way too many times to be on the list!

[Larry Lucido]

How about where Christmas is mentioned over and over and over, but is still insipid? “Simply having a wonderful Christmas time”

[the OlLine Rebel]

I like them, but let’s be honest. I can keep listening to them all through “winter” until March 21.

[DManA]

ARRRRGGGG! I want to shoot the speaker when that one’s on.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Hard to say. I’m going by the strictly proportional usage of any Christmas-type reference.

BTW, I think that is such a dopey song. As are most “modern” songs.

[trisham]

I pretty much am tired of Christmas music after new year’s eve. After that, I’m looking forward to the superbowl.

[kbennkc]

We jews believe it was santa claus that killed Jesus Christ.
Kinky Friedman

[the OlLine Rebel]

Oh yeah? How about Jewish Barbra Streisand careening through “Jingle Bells”? I call it “Jingle Hell” and I want to knife someone the way she arranges that song...makes you feel like an axe-murderer!

[trisham]

LOL!

[DManA]

I have developed immunity to Babs Strident. It’s like after being around a bad smell you stop smelling it.

[nuconvert]

There’s a difference between a Christmas carol and just a song. Jingle Bells and White Christmas are not carols.

Noun 1. Christmas carol - joyful religious song celebrating the birth of Christ

[kbennkc]

I get it ! Good one DmanA . Smells Funny Girl . he he .

[Jemian]

Cat 2: White Christmas; I’ll Be Home for Christmas

[RJR_fan]

When his son “Easter Parade” became popular, Irving Berlin, Jewish songwriter of “White Christmas,” boasted that he had “de-Christed” the two most important Christian holidays.

“Little Drummer Boy” was obviously written by someone totally ignorant of babies, percussion instruments, and Christianity. It’s had the “fingernails on chalkboard” effect on me for half a century now. And I am aghast that Christian singers would participate in this plot to ridicule the most important Good News the world has ever heard.

[RJR_fan]

Sleigh ride ...

Beloved mentor R. J. Rushdoony pointed out once that this song was obviously written by someone who’d never taken a sleigh ride. Horses on a winter diet are gaseous — and when you ride a sleigh, your nose is on the same level as, and mere feet behind, their tailpipes.

[alicewonders]

How about this abomination?

George Michael - "Last Christmas"

Last Christmas, I gave you my heart But the very next day, You gave it away This year, to save me from tears I'll give it to someone special

Last Christmas, I gave you my heart But the very next day, You gave it away This year, to save me from tears I'll give it to someone special

Once bitten and twice shy I keep my distance but you still catch my eye Tell me baby do you recognise me? Well it's been a year, it doesn't surprise me

(Happy Christmas!) I wrapped it up and sent it With a note saying "I Love You" I meant it Now I know what a fool I've been But if you kissed me now I know you'd fool me again

[CHORUS]

(Oooh. Oooh Baby)

A crowded room, friends with tired eyes I'm hiding from you and your soul of ice My God I thought you were someone to rely on Me? I guess I was a shoulder to cry on A face on a lover with a fire in his heart A man undercover but you tore me apart Oooh Oooh Now I've found a real love you'll never fool me again

[CHORUS]

A face on a lover with a fire in his heart (Gave you my heart) A man undercover but you tore me apart Next year I'll give it to someone, I'll give it to someone special special someone someone

[coloradomomba]

or the horrendous Elton John song, “step into Christmas” Huh?

[nufsed]

I saw him in the men’s room at LAX. He was singing and Larry Craig was keeping time tapping his feet. Went down to concourse for a more normal bathroom experience.

[alicewonders]

or the horrendous Elton John song, “step into Christmas” Huh?

Yes - YUK!!! "And the admission's FREE!"

[alicewonders]

I saw him in the men’s room at LAX. He was singing and Larry Craig was keeping time tapping his feet. Went down to concourse for a more normal bathroom experience.

If you walk into a public restroom with those two in it - you need to go straight and get a "Karen Silkwood shower".

EEEWWW.

[nufsed]

Or a Scarlett Johanson video.

[Mmogamer]

Here’s some real Christmas carols heh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFhvVlwolUs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXze_TLUTqM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKSM4kmpX9s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSmztSZANAg

and in the original tongue,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxrBhZvvSIQ&feature=related

[trisham]

Holy mackerel. That really stinks.

[gimme1ibertee]

Cat 2: I heard the bells on Christmas Day.

[Non-Sequitur]

This would be great to separate the true Christmas songs from those perfect for liberals' Winter Festivals.

Easy. If it's less than 109 years old it's a Christmas song and not a Christmas carol.

[gimme1ibertee]

ROTFLOL!!!

[gimme1ibertee]

Horses on a winter diet are gaseous

LOL! Reminds me of the banned Budweiser commercial: "Do you smell BBQ?" I cracked up when I saw that!!

[Flycatcher]

What if it’s a classic Christmas song or carol sung by animals? (I’m thinking of the Jingle Cats doing “Silent Night”)

Don’t you love it when animals attack and when animals sing!

[the OlLine Rebel]

They’re full of reference to Christmas! Nope.

[OKSooner]

Cat Zero: The Christmas Song by John Lennon, aka “And so this is Christmas”. Followed by all the cheesy, uh, stuff that started passing for Christmas music back in the 70’s.

[the OlLine Rebel]

OK, OK; but the point was any song supposed to be “Christmasy”.

[the OlLine Rebel]

It’s full of Christmas reference. It says it plenty of times.

Question isn’t whether it’s good or actually in the proper vein, but just whether it refers to Christmas things or not.

Personally, I don’t much like the song; I mean, it’s OK but not as a “Christmas” song. Note how every modern “rock” song has to be based on “relationships” (i.e., man after woman) - as basically every rock song is about anyway. Usually involving sex, too.

[stillonaroll]

They’re full of reference to Christmas! Nope.

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Actually, I'd say that both "White Christmas" and "I'll be home for Christmas" both count as merely a "marginal reference to Christmas."

IMHO, it's not a real Christmas song unless there is a reference to what Christmas is all about: the birth of Christ. If there is no mention of Jesus, Mary, or the Wise Men, etc., then it's not a real Christmas song.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Yes, we can agree on it that way, but my post was based on any reference to Christmas at all, and if it was marginal. “Marginal” means scant reference, few comments, almost superfluous. Much like an incidental comment would be. Hence, if the song constantly mentions it, it’s not “marginal” to me.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Lennon/Lenin talking about Christmas makes me want to gag. After all, this is the hippie idiot who wants to imagine there’s no religion.

[stillonaroll]

That makes sense, but I'd say that there are songs that mention Christmas prominently, but still trivialize it. Maybe that's a third category?

A couple such songs were mentioned on this thread: "Step Into Christmas" by Elton John, or "Last Christmas" by George Michael. (Hmmm...what do those two singers have in common, and why might they want to trivialize Christmas?)

[the OlLine Rebel]

Sure, maybe Category 3. LOL

[Justa]

"Cat Zero: The Christmas Song by John Lennon, aka “And so this is Christmas”."

Yeah, I'll agree. I was subjected to that song several times while traveling the last few days. It has a mention of "war is over" and the chorus children cheering at the end which is presumably in reference to the end of the Vietnam war in 1975. I thought how idiotic the song and its war-is-over reference is in light of the fact that over 3 million Vietnamese and Cambodians were murdered by atheists following the fall of their governments in 1975.

As I see it the song is a fitting tribute to the stunning ignorance and depravity of Leftists and illustrates their support of evil via populist deceit.