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Will the 3rd time be the Charm in Challenging Obama's Eligibility?
King's Right ^ | December 20, 2008 | Ralph King

Posted on 12/22/2008 10:05:22 AM PST by Kevmo

Will the 3rd time be the Charm in Challenging Obama's Eligibility?

Like the Energizer Bunny, the cases challenging Obama's eligibility are still going strong. There have been a ton of lawsuits challenging Obama's right to take office with fellow Democrat Philip Berg taking the lead.

To date Berg has filed several injuctions, all of which have been denied except his original compliant that is scheduled to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court on January 9th, 2009.

From WND --

"I know that Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally qualified natural born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of president of the United States," Berg said in a statement on his ObamaCrimes.com website.

"Obama knows he is not 'natural born' as he knows where he was born and he knows he was adopted in Indonesia; Obama is an attorney, Harvard Law grad who taught Constitutional law; Obama knows his candidacy is the largest 'hoax' attempted on the citizens of the United States in over 200 years; Obama places our Constitution in a 'crisis' situation; and Obama is in a situation where he can be blackmailed by leaders around the world who know Obama is not qualified," Berg's statement continued.

On one hand, it is almost hard to believe Obama's origin of birth could still be an issue at this point his political career. On the other hand, with cult-like support rivaling David Koresh & Charlie Manson that the "Anointed One" has generated, I do not put anything past them in advancing their socialist agenda.

If the birth certificate is legal and can be verified - he should produce it and put an end to this circus-like spectacle of challenges...

A partial listing and status update for several of the cases surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as president is below:

Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama's original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg's latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was denied. But the conference on the case is set Jan. 9.

Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.

Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.

In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.

In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters.

Private investigator Douglas Hagmann of Homeland Security US reported earlier he found 13 cases challenging Obama's eligibility still active or semi-active.

One last tidbit for you to chew on.... what if the birth certificate in question is a fraud?

What if, through these filings, the Supreme Court KNOWS Obama is not eligible to be POTUS but is thinking of the socialist $#!+-storm they will cause should they rule his election null and void?


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Pretty good synopsis of legal cases.
1 posted on 12/22/2008 10:05:23 AM PST by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo

Let me go out on a limb and say no, it won’t be the charm.


2 posted on 12/22/2008 10:07:38 AM PST by Arguendo
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To: Kevmo

Nothing will come of this either. Flame away if I turn out to be wrong on my prediction.


3 posted on 12/22/2008 10:07:49 AM PST by tips up
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To: Kevmo

It really doesn’t matter. It is all in the Senate’s hands now, and hell will freeze over first.


4 posted on 12/22/2008 10:10:48 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Arguendo

Yup, probably won’t fly, but I am looking forward to the Big-0 having to prove his citizenship in Oklahoma in four years...;^)


5 posted on 12/22/2008 10:10:54 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Kevmo

yes. it will pretty much run out of steam.


6 posted on 12/22/2008 10:12:58 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: Arguendo

I’m with you, it on’t be the charm. That charlatan Obama can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. They are so far up his bum that they can do a colonoscopy. His good luck isn’t going to last...tick...tick..tick..he’ll step it in big time.


7 posted on 12/22/2008 10:14:38 AM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: Kevmo
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8 posted on 12/22/2008 10:16:20 AM PST by hamburglar (The result of spreading the wealth around is spreading unemployment around.)
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To: tips up

Just don’t argue from silence, as if you know the future. We all know there’s a strong possibility this won’t get justice with the SCOTUS. But arguing as if it has already happened is an argument from silence. This is a legitimate constitutional issue, a constitutional crisis.


9 posted on 12/22/2008 10:16:32 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Always Right

I have no hope the Senate will lift a finger, and if even one senator raises an objection it will be voted down. It’s in the SCOTUS hands. They’re paid to protect the constitution. I hope they do their job.


10 posted on 12/22/2008 10:17:34 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Kevmo

While I hope and pray somwething will stop him from becoming President, I believe that nothing will stop his coronation.


11 posted on 12/22/2008 10:19:27 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: Kevmo

I agree that it’s a very legitimate issue. But I have no confidence in SCOTUS getting involved. Other branches of government? Sure. Pelosi and Reid will hold hearings. Not. McCain will be telling that this issue is “off limits”.


12 posted on 12/22/2008 10:29:17 AM PST by tips up
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To: Kevmo
The SC denied them because it is Congress' duty to raise an objection--l member of Congress + l senator; the cases have been brought to the SC to make the court fully aware of 0' total concealment of pertinent records, especially his birth cert. The Court can only act when Congress raises the question of elibility.

0 is not playing some silly game, there can't be anything so profoundly embarrassing that he could not have a true copy of the original to show the Court, out of public view. This man is a real mystery--and about to be President of the US.

13 posted on 12/22/2008 10:30:31 AM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I would like to propose that nothing from the WND ever be posted here as news - if you feel the uncontrolable urge to post something from there, please do it on an entertainment blog. Thank you.


14 posted on 12/22/2008 10:30:49 AM PST by Cyclone59
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To: Cyclone59

I did not post it, why are you telling me?


15 posted on 12/22/2008 10:32:47 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: tips up

But I have no confidence in SCOTUS getting involved.
***I still hold a mustard seed’s worth of confidence, where there should be a mustard tree orchard.

Can I ask you a question in the hopes you won’t get offended? I notice that there are a bunch of oldtimer FReeper CoLB trolls who seem to have the same level of no-confidence in SCOTUS. Now, let me be very straightforward here: I’m NOT calling you a troll. What I wonder is whether this lack of confidence is what causes the FReeper CoLB trolls to lash out at those who are slightly less cynical?


16 posted on 12/22/2008 10:39:17 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: luvadavi

The Court can only act when Congress raises the question of elibility.
***Can you please point that out in the statutes or the constitution? I’ve been following this issue for a long time and it’s the first I’ve heard of that.


17 posted on 12/22/2008 10:40:38 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: luvadavi

...and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Revelations l3:4


18 posted on 12/22/2008 10:48:32 AM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: Kevmo

I’ve seen it in posts in the last week or so—one yesterday which was posted last night or the 20th. Let me check.


19 posted on 12/22/2008 10:52:10 AM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I wasn’t pointing this at you, it was a random thought/request


20 posted on 12/22/2008 10:53:12 AM PST by Cyclone59
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To: Kevmo
"One last tidbit for you to chew on.... what if the birth certificate in question is a fraud?"

"What if, through these filings, the Supreme Court KNOWS Obama is not eligible to be POTUS but is thinking of the socialist $#!+-storm they will cause should they rule his election null and void?"

So the $#!+-storm that will be caused if the constitution is usurped would be of no consequence comparatively, eh?

It would be prudent and wise to place more emphasis on that possibiliity lest we have to find out the hard way, IMO.

21 posted on 12/22/2008 10:53:29 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Cyclone59

OK...i got confused...blonde thing...ha ha ha


22 posted on 12/22/2008 10:56:03 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: Kevmo
The MSM employees, et al had no problem with the efforts to get McCain's birth certificate and confirmation.

There was no problem publishing stories and seeking heavyweight opinion about McCain

It did not last as long as the Obama controversy -- MCCAIN COMPLIED!

.. and we're the nut cases for wanting Obama to stop wasting time and, it's said, spending hundreds of thousands fighting this? The guy is saying to the Constitution and to a large number of Americans, F you! IMO.

"Imagine what would happen if the courts were to overturn an election simply based on eligibility. It would be a disaster. After what happened in 2000, people would completely lose faith in the electoral process."

That was said about the hubbub over McCain's birth place. BTW, the article said "Curiously enough, there is no record of McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone Health Department's bound birth registers, which are publicly available at the National Archives in College Park. A search of the 'Child Born Abroad' records of the U.S. consular service for August 1936 included many U.S. citizens born in the Canal Zone but did not turn up any mention of John McCain."

23 posted on 12/22/2008 11:11:46 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Kevmo; Calpernia
OK: It was in an article posted yesterday by Calpernia, 'Open Letter'--in post #12 , 21st CenturyFreeThinker explains that Congress has to raise the objection first, then it can go to SCOTUS.

I could link this for you if I had any sense and knew how...anyway, this may be why the SC has denied the cases so far. For all we know, there may be a good number of reps willing to object. But would you bet the farm?

It's beyond disheartening to see this so-obvious fraud --and dangerous man--get away with this!

24 posted on 12/22/2008 11:25:22 AM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: Kevmo
“Schwarzenegger For President?”

Schwarzenegger said on 60 Minutes he wants to run for President.
Now that the Supreme Court is letting Obama slip through it should be easy for Schwarzenegger to run.

What next???

If the Supreme Court can't uphold the laws of our constitution, who can and who will???

25 posted on 12/22/2008 11:55:42 AM PST by DaltonNC
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To: DaltonNC
Terminator is probably thinking, Ya, it's so easy, an Austrian could do it! Vy didn't I tink of it.

Too bad he didn't; he may be a big spender & left of center, but at least he's not marxist/muslim w/ties to Kenyan dictators. And terrorist friends plus Klinton retreads.

I believe he does love America.

I voted for McClintock, who happily came back to win the seat in Congress last month.

26 posted on 12/22/2008 12:37:18 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: DaltonNC

If the Supreme Court can’t uphold the laws of our constitution, who can and who will???
***It’s the end of our Constitutional Republic, which is why I recently changed my tagline. Your question is answered in the Declaration of Independence.

Crossing the Rubicon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2152080/posts
Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:53:49 PM · by Paige · 56 replies · 1,314+ views
Focal Point USA ^ | 12/20/2008 | Chris Allen


27 posted on 12/22/2008 12:54:15 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: luvadavi; 21stCenturyFreeThinker

Here’s the link. I don’t think it says what you pointed out...

Open Letter - Request to refile Petition Lightfoot v Bowen with chief Justice John Roberts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2152252/posts?page=12#12

Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:22:44 PM · 12 of 48
21stCenturyFreeThinker to pallis

The Supremes need to get off their derelict duffs, and give Americans proof that Obama is a US citizen.

The Constitution gives Congress, the most political branch of government, the responsibility to judge the qualifications of the president.

They were right to do this. Do you really want unelected, life tenured judges deciding who is qualified to be president? Also, the courts move very slowly and the founding fathers wanted to keep elections from being tied up forever.

We may not like the outcome of this election but the Supreme Court is following their Constitutional role.

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28 posted on 12/22/2008 12:59:11 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“Imagine what would happen if the courts were to overturn an election simply based on eligibility. It would be a disaster. After what happened in 2000, people would completely lose faith in the electoral process.”
***The problem with the Washington Post is that they don’t do any research. The framers of our constitution already considered this possibility and deliberately subordinated electoral results to eligibility.

20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts
12/09/2008 9:59:02 AM PST · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,640+ views
Constitution of the United States ^ | January 23, 1933 | US Constitution


29 posted on 12/22/2008 1:02:52 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Kevmo

Darn it I reversed the comment #. It’s 21, not l2. Same poster.


30 posted on 12/22/2008 1:08:26 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: Eastbound

So the $#!+-storm that will be caused if the constitution is usurped would be of no consequence comparatively, eh?
***I think that for some SCOTUS justices, that is exactly the political calculus taking place right now. They know if they find zer0bama ineligible there will be race riots. The might be tempted to throw that little constitutional “technicality” under the bus because they detect that most constitutionalists are law abiding citizens, not the type who riot.

Historians see the end of the Roman Republic when Caesar crossed the Rubicon river and started the civil war. I believe if the Supremes throw this aspect of the constitution under the bus it will be the same sort of historical milestone for our constitutional republic. And it doesn’t even have to be as severe an indicator as civil war or rioting, just a natural trace-back to the thing that started the end of it all when the SCOTUS voted itself into irrelevance.


31 posted on 12/22/2008 1:16:20 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: luvadavi; 21stCenturyFreeThinker

That’s just an opinion, and one that completely overlooks the language in the 20th amendment where it says the PE could fail to qualify. It’s the SCOTUS’s job.

To: pallis
The Supremes are hiding from something that has fallen into their laps. This is a simple matter. Take care of it.
The founding fathers knew what they were doing when they designed the electoral college. They knew that above all the election must produce a president in a timely fashion even if an imperfect one. That’s why they gave the job to the most political branch of the government. The Supreme Court could take years to parse out the meaning of “natural born” and whether someone qualifies. Congress will take at most a few days. The founders weren’t thinking of Obama, they were thinking of the importance of having a president to national security.
If the electors had been concerned they could have voted for another candidate. If Congress is concerned they can refuse to certify the electoral college vote. If Congress becomes concerned after he is inaugurated they can impeach him. The Constitution doesn’t give the Supreme Court a role here and they know it.

It’s not fair to the Court to say they are shirking a duty the Constitution gives to Congress. It only takes four justices to decide to hear this case. Which on of Roberts, Alito, Scalia, or Thomas are unwilling to take this on. My bet is it is all of them.

I wouldn’t want to discourage anyone from pursuing this but I don’t think the Supreme Court could resolve it constitutionally even if they wanted to.

21 posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:01:08 PM by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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32 posted on 12/22/2008 1:19:49 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: luvadavi
Terminator is probably thinking, Ya, it's so easy, an Austrian could do it! Vy didn't I tink of it.

He's thinking about it.

Governor reveals tricks of the trade on '60 Minutes' Be sure to read post #19

L.A.Times Deletes Lead: Schwarzenegger & Presidency After Drudge & FR Feature; Could it be Obama?

33 posted on 12/22/2008 2:13:47 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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To: tips up

My question is: besides reading the blogs and get outraged...have we seen, anywhere in the country, more than 4 people in front of the SCOTUS building?

Have we heard anything yet about US, we the people, making BIG noise like the jerks for prop 8?

Have we done anything else YET besides yelling at the SCOTUS - in the blogs - and filing and filing again and being denied over and over again? And being laughed at because WE are so ...polite...

Right now, I don’t see ANYTHING which could be loud enough to be picked up by the media. We are on the side of the law - right - guess what. That does not make any noise and it DOES NOT WORK! I am not saying that we should not be on the side of the law of course but right now the problem is: only the nutsjob are heard - the thugs...and they win - ALL THE TIME!

It seems that we cannot count on anyone but us to save this country and our Constitution.

So what’s next? Bend under marxism and hope that at least we will keep our blogs up and running???

Tell me...what’s next? Are we going to keep on blogging while our Constitution is being killed and nobody cares???

Our country is dying - Our America, The America of our Founding Fathers and what do we do since 2 years??? We blog - we are outraged - we file...right...impressive results indeed. In the meantime, the messiah, the marxist indonesian muslim wan!!! The “coup d’etat” HAPPENED and nothing seems to be able to stop him.

And...we blog...we are outraged...we file...

Wake me up when you’ll be ready to ACT!


34 posted on 12/22/2008 2:37:24 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: tips up

My question is: besides reading the blogs and get outraged...have we seen, anywhere in the country, more than 4 people in front of the SCOTUS building?

Have we heard anything yet about US, we the people, making BIG noise like the jerks for prop 8?

Have we done anything else YET besides yelling at the SCOTUS - in the blogs - and filing and filing again and being denied over and over again? And being laughed at because WE are so ...polite...

Right now, I don’t see ANYTHING which could be loud enough to be picked up by the media. We are on the side of the law - right - guess what. That does not make any noise and it DOES NOT WORK! I am not saying that we should not be on the side of the law of course but right now the problem is: only the nutsjob are heard - the thugs...and they win - ALL THE TIME!

It seems that we cannot count on anyone but us to save this country and our Constitution.

So what’s next? Bend under marxism and hope that at least we will keep our blogs up and running???

Tell me...what’s next? Are we going to keep on blogging while our Constitution is being killed and nobody cares???

Our country is dying - Our America, The America of our Founding Fathers and what do we do since 2 years??? We blog - we are outraged - we file...right...impressive results indeed. In the meantime, the messiah, the marxist indonesian muslim wan!!! The “coup d’etat” HAPPENED and nothing seems to be able to stop him.

And...we blog...we are outraged...we file...

Wake me up when you’ll be ready to ACT!


35 posted on 12/22/2008 2:38:15 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: Kevmo

There will be some (enough) who will not go quietly into the night.


36 posted on 12/22/2008 3:26:09 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Kevmo; luvadavi; Congressman Billybob
That’s just an opinion, and one that completely overlooks the language in the 20th amendment where it says the PE could fail to qualify. It’s the SCOTUS’s job.
True enough, it is an opinion. The Supreme Court has never ruled on it and really can't. But I do offer support for my opinion.

The 20th amendment says the President Elect can fail to qualify, but it also says that it is Congress's job to deal with that crisis.

Amendment XX - Section 3.

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

No mention of the Supreme Court here. It's Congress all the way. We get the VP-Elect unless he doesn't qualify either. In that case we get somebody selected by Congress.

It is well settled that the Supreme Court can't remove a sitting president because the Constitution specifically gives the job to Congress. He has to be impeached and convicted. Similar reasoning applies to the president elect.

Check out some of the other posts on that thread. I hate to post the same thing over and over on many threads.

37 posted on 12/22/2008 4:00:39 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
While I hope and pray somwething will stop him from becoming President, I believe that nothing will stop his coronation

All it would take is for one patriot, who works in the Hawaii's Secretary of State office and has access to birth records, to accept the criminal penalties and make the birth certificate public.

38 posted on 12/22/2008 5:28:18 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Kevmo
". . .when the SCOTUS voted itself into irrelevance."

' . . . and the Republic into obscurity.'

Usurpation light, heh? By degrees. You may be right.

39 posted on 12/22/2008 5:34:18 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker; luvadavi

Your post does not address the original thing that luvadavi posted:

The Court can only act when Congress raises the question of elibility... Congress has to raise the objection first, then it can go to SCOTUS.


40 posted on 12/22/2008 5:36:22 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Eastbound; varon

All it would take is for one patriot, who works in the Hawaii’s Secretary of State office and has access to birth records
***Unfortunately, I think such people with that kind of access tend to be greedy. They use the info for bribery to make money. Another notch on the slide into obscurity for the republic.


41 posted on 12/22/2008 5:39:20 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: American Dream 246

I know this may hurt your ‘fragile ego’ but it wasn’t worth a double post.


42 posted on 12/22/2008 5:47:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Cyclone59

“I would like to propose that nothing from the WND ever be posted here as news”

Poor advice scattershot at freepers. Would you prefer we site Huffington? Information comes from many sources. It’s up to the poster to qualify the source or make clear the source is (not yet) qualified.

I personally find lots of leads on WND. But you can’t be lazy about disecting the information and source.


43 posted on 12/22/2008 6:32:34 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
There are at least eight cases in which judges have ruled that candidates are disqualified from running. Two of those involved disqualified PRESIDENTIAL candidates.

Such cases are the finding of simple facts and the application of clear law. This is the normal business of courts. If the Supreme Court runs away from this question, the reason is not preemption of the task by Congress, but cowardice by the Court. IMHO.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Come Back to 1600, Johnny Dean, Johnny Dean"

The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.

44 posted on 12/22/2008 6:37:35 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Latest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: TigersEye
Teflon Governor. RINO. Seems to have no enemies, and the press loves him. The cowardly Republicans in the legislature don't raise their voice either to him, or about him when he's not present. Where has all this money gone? and he has the gall to even suggest raising taxes.

Who voted for him? Swooning silly women of age group 35-maybe 55, and young men l8-35 wannabes or just admirers of his macho, magnetic presence.

He has a magnetic personality. I like him myself, except for his liberal tendencies. Sometimes I think he would be a lot more conservative, but his Kennedy wife gets control of him.

45 posted on 12/22/2008 6:40:21 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: luvadavi

Even if he were Reagan II he wouldn’t be worth changing the natural born citizen requirement to get him into the WH. There is always another election coming down the road.


46 posted on 12/22/2008 7:08:54 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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To: MHGinTN; American Dream 246
Last week I hit the post button and something stuck and it posted about 100 times.

He is right. We are outraged, furious, frustrated--and our backs are to the wall. Sooner or later we have to start fighting back and not just with keyboards & blogs. In fact, sooner rather than later. Somewhere in this vast network of blogs, FR Forum, small conservative newspapers , townhalls & granges thruout the country, vets' groups, we need leaders, We need to organise and create a strong & solid presence.

The party of the elephant won't help us, doesn't want us. And they can't be trusted.

American Dream, you voiced the frustration of us all, now what's your idea on getting this rolling?

47 posted on 12/22/2008 7:24:48 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Glad you pinged that ‘Johnny Dean’ one you wrote. I had missed that one! Good piece, John.


48 posted on 12/22/2008 7:29:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: American Dream 246

“Wake me up when you’ll be ready to ACT!”

I share your frustration.
However, “we” are acting on many different fronts.
Ya can’t diss any efforts made on behalf of the cause. We even have different ideas of what the “cause” is so it’s disingenuous to discount anything.

All I’ve been able to contribute is to raise awareness in my relatively small circle of influence, write personal letters to my reps and state electors, do the WND things to both electors and judges, and lambast my gutless senators for their ill-informed insulary pompous positions.

Hope you’ve done at least as much.

At some time, more pointed efforts may be appropriate but until then, we kinda have to let the constitutional and legal sequences evolve.

All that said, if you have further suggestions for action, please share.


49 posted on 12/22/2008 7:34:28 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Kevmo
In a word -NO. The fix is in and the Supremes just committed suicide. Sadly I will not miss them in their irrelevance.
50 posted on 12/22/2008 7:36:08 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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