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Lebanese are Phoenicians After All; And so Are Many of the Rest of US
Informed Comment ^ | Dec. 23, 2008 | Juan Cole

Posted on 12/27/2008 6:02:57 AM PST by decimon

A team of biologists at Lebanese American University estimates that 1 in 17 persons around the Mediterranean carries genetic markers distinctive to the ancient Phoenician people who resided in what is now Lebanon. The Phoenicians spread out in a trade diaspora two millennia ago, establishing colonies from Spain to Cyprus. The team also found that one third of Lebanese have the markers for Phoenician descent, and that these are spread evenly through the population, among both Christians and Muslims. In fact, all Lebanese have broadly similar sets of genetic markers. The lead researcher commented, "Whether you take a Christian village in the north of Lebanon or a Muslim village in the south, the DNA make-up of its residents is likely to be identical . . ."

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TOPICS: History; Politics; Science; Society
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1 posted on 12/27/2008 6:02:58 AM PST by decimon
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Phoenomenon ping.


2 posted on 12/27/2008 6:04:48 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
Almost everyone in the world by now probably has some Phoenician ancestry.

he's gone out of his gourd

3 posted on 12/27/2008 6:09:38 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: decimon

Phenomenon? When the Arab Muslims invaded they didn’t replace the inhabitants... they were the masters and made sure that the subjugated people converted to Islam. Despite sharing Islam and the Arabic language, “Arabs” from countries as diverse as Lybia, Egypt, Lebanon and Iraq have ethnically not that much in common with peninsulan Arabs.


4 posted on 12/27/2008 6:11:20 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: SolidWood
Phenomenon?

The Phoenomenon would be the apparent genetic diaspora.

5 posted on 12/27/2008 6:23:44 AM PST by decimon
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To: dannyprimrose1
Welcome to FR.

The vast majority of Americans are "mutts."

5.56mm

7 posted on 12/27/2008 7:12:29 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: decimon

The word “Alphabet” comes from the first two letters of the Phoenecian alphabet “Alpha” and “Bet”

That language is considered the precursor of Hebrew, Aramaic etc.


8 posted on 12/27/2008 7:13:25 AM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: SoftwareEngineer

To be more precise the first letter is “Aleph”


9 posted on 12/27/2008 7:15:45 AM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: gusopol3
"he's gone out of his gourd."

Yup. I'm mtDNA 'V' and yDNA R1b...so there.

11 posted on 12/27/2008 7:59:29 AM PST by blam
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To: decimon

Juan Cole. LOL!


12 posted on 12/27/2008 8:12:12 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt
Juan Cole. LOL!

The LOL is for the BBC.

13 posted on 12/27/2008 8:30:24 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

“a masterful and beautifully written account of Western imperialism’s first assault on the Islamic world” - Chalmers Johnson (commenting on Juan Cole’s “Napoleon’s Egypt”...in the margin to the right of his commentary.)

Juan Cole. LOL!

(I’ve seen better heads with winged helmets on them)


14 posted on 12/27/2008 8:49:02 AM PST by PGalt
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To: decimon; Cacique

The Phoenecians settled my ancestral hometown in southern Italy, although my mother’s family are likely more Greek than anything else.


15 posted on 12/27/2008 8:50:33 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: M Kehoe

Yep. And that includes black Americans (most of whom have white and/or American Indian ancestors, to say nothing of a mixture of West African peoples) and Latinos (who are largely of mixed American Indian and European ancestry, with Ricans and Dominicans being of West African and European ancestry).


16 posted on 12/27/2008 8:52:11 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Clemenza

My mother’s island of Sardinia was a part of Carthage until the second punic war when it became a roman province. The Phoenicians also settled extensively in Sicily as well. Seafarers that they were, I suspect they left their genes all over the ports they visited.


17 posted on 12/27/2008 9:27:27 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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