Skip to comments.Rudy Giuliani Explains Republican Party's Failure in 2008
Posted on 01/21/2009 4:36:24 PM PST by Crimson Politics
Rudy Giuliani analyzes the reason the Republican party is losing in recent years and what it can do to enlarge it's base. Stressing the importance of big tent politics and under-emphasizing social issues. In any case, the economy is the main reason McCain lost, but other social issues have also created a bad stereotype of Republicans in general.
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Welcome to FR. I’m still waiting for Rudy to explain his own stupid campaign decisions.
Take it from Rootie, the one guy who might have just been worse than McCain.
Just another RINO that will never receive my vote....
Hey Rudy, how’s that one delegate? Was he really worth the millions of dollars and cold-chicken dinners in Florida?
Option A: Viagra
Option B: Cialis
Option C: Enzyte
rivvet rivvet, burp, yawn.
Republicans lost on administration, on getting things done right and keeping stuff from falling apart.
When the Democrats screw up, we'll be back.
Well obviously President Giuliani is qualified to tell us how to win campaigns in middle America, so we should all listen to him.
Thanks for the article. However, most of the people on this thread won’t read it. They’ll just look at the title and start bashing Rudy.
Giuliani thinks we focus too much on social issues.
But we nominated McCain, who is supposedly America’s favorite Republican. He’s not particularly “right wing” about anything at all, except bringing the war to a successful conclusion which supposedly Obama wants to do too.
So I’ll take the opposite tack. We tried a guy who was embarrassed to be Republican. Next time lets find someone who is capable of explaining what Republicanism is and who is capable of persuading people to agree with him. Thats how you win elections the right way, by persuading people, not by positioning yourself in the middle of your opponent’s demographic.
Yet another political genius speaks. Court the fringe and alienate your base. That’s the ticket!
No vote for him and each of the others—not in my lifetime. None of them even came close except Duncan Hunter.
“But we nominated McCain, who is supposedly Americas favorite Republican. Hes not particularly right wing about anything at all, except bringing the war to a successful conclusion which supposedly Obama wants to do too.”
Meanwhile the left considered McCain a fascist and a Nazi.
The republicans lost for a simple reason. On way too many issues, they are completely indistinguishable from the ‘Rats.
Plus, they are as greedy and corrupt as the day is long.
I believe that in a time of strife, people look for a LEADER, plain and simple.
Remember when McCain did his “fight with me” speech? People went wild. Then he went back to acting like a wimp.
Obama won because he promised everyone, everything BUT also, because he appeared to be a confident, capable leader who could fix the problems facing this country.
We don’t have the wrong ideas in the Republican Party. In this election, we had a lack of a marketable, strong leader who could convince the public that he could lead us to a better America.
Gotta agree with Guiliani here. I am a Conservative, not a Republican. Rudy turned around NYC, a liberal bastion, with sound Conservative principals. OK, so he dresses up like a chick and could care less if 2 dudes marry. I have never seen it as government’s job to dictate morality so I could care less. The Republicans have made themselves to be the Christianity party, but last I checked the USA was a secular country and as far as I am concerned it should stay that way.
Talk to anyone who is not a thug and lived in NYC, Rudy did wonders for that city and it’s business owners. Love to see him do it with the rest of the country. As long as we keep our guns that is....my only drawback on the guy. And don’t forget, if they go after the second amendment, gun rights advocates can make a much better riot than inner city thugs.......
Golly----we were all waiting w/ baited breath to hear Rooty's take, now weren't we (/s).
You gotta wonder about this nitwit's mental stability. Ghouliani-----a puppet of the pukeneos----spent $60M and got one delegate (that he shared).
Ghouli kept saying he was "saving" himself for Florida to avoid those "horrid" conservatives lurkng in early states. At the same time, the lisping little jerk was running furiously (and losing) in every primary/caucus state.
FLORIDA AT LAST Ghouli campaigned 63 days straight in his "Fla stronghold" and came in a distant third......even with his "powerhouse" voting bloc, "Israelis for Giuliani" who flew in, just to vote for him.
Rudy's 2008 campaign has achieved cult status-----as the stupidest, losingest campaign in US political history.
"Ach der lieber.....Kaleefurrneeah bankrupt? Duz dat mean
I gotda chainch my plans abat runnin for prezeedunt?"
" Chonny and Wooty, you two RINOS bettah make udder plans.
Ai gotda vunny veeling dah Reepublucan Potty tinks RINOS are pure crapola."
" Ai hear RINOS kin get jobs as Val-Mart greeters, Home Depot paint mixers
unt McD's ketchop pumpers, or vaiters at Ved Lopstah."
"Ai kiss anyboty's tookus to gets dah money to bailout Kaleefurnia. Mebee Ai
trow Maria off dah ski livt at Sun Valley. Ai getda nashynal symputty ven
anodder Kennedee goes kaput."
You assume... ASSUME that just because McCain use to have some liberal tendencies back in 2000, that he lost the election.
You completely ignore the completely embarrassing videos of Sarah Palin interviews, although she may be a smart person, her answers were really dumb.
You completely ignore the fact that the economy collapsed under a Republican president (the George Bush (Sr.) effect)
You completely ignore that we are in a massively unpopular war in Iraq, even if we are RIGHT on Iraq.
Guess what, if a more right-wing person was elected? We wouldn’t have even gotten that 44% of the national vote.
Stop ignoring the facts... If McCain ran the same exact campaign, even with Palin against a WHITE Democrat while the economy is booming... McCain would have won a major landslide.
Rudy would have wiped the floor with Obama, but noooooo, the GOP wanted someone clear as the driven snow, so we got stuck with McLame.
The Republicans lost for one simple reason. They did not run on solid conservative principles. The fools still haven’t learned what most of us shouted about all through the campaign. Run and govern from a conservative position you win, run FROM conservative positions and you lose. It ain’t that damn difficult.
" P-l-e-a-s-e make me sound conservative. I'm losing my butt out there."
"My neocon masters told me I didn't need those redneck gun nuts and
those dumb pro-life Christian conservatives to make a primary showing."
"They're killing me on FR just b/c I dumped my wife for my mistress, don't talk
to my kids, was honored by NARAL, donated to Planned Parenthood, marched
for gay rights under the NAMBLA banner, appointed gays and pedophiles
to top city jobs, and provided a sanctuary for illegals."
"If I win, I promise I won't kick so/con Repubs to the curb and won't
religiously cleanse the Party like my neocon masters want me to do, in exchange
for campaign contributions."
“Rudy would have wiped the floor with Obama, but noooooo, the GOP wanted someone clear as the driven snow, so we got stuck with McLame.”
Actually we got stuck with Hussein Obama. I agree that Rudy would have beaten Obama like a drum, it wouldn’t have even been close.
Do you think Rudy’s first executive order would have been to stop the military trials of the terrorists, as Obama just did?
Giuliani’s 12 Commitments — compare them with Obama’s agenda.
The twelve commitments:
-I will keep America on offense in the Terrorists’ War on Us.
-I will end illegal immigration, secure our borders, and identify every non-citizen in our nation.
-I will restore fiscal discipline and cut wasteful Washington spending.
-I will cut taxes and reform the tax code.
-I will impose accountability on Washington.
-I will lead America towards energy independence.
-I will give Americans more control over, and access to, healthcare with affordable and portable free-market solutions.
-I will increase adoptions, decrease abortions, and protect the quality of life for our children.
-I will reform the legal system and appoint strict constructionist judges.
-I will ensure that every community in America is prepared for terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
-I will provide access to a quality education to every child in America by giving real school choice to parents.
-I will expand America’s involvement in the global economy and strengthen our reputation around the world.
... and you sir, are assuming WRONG! When Sarah came aboard John McCain stood his ONLY CHANCE of winning.
Because of the compromising in the Republican Party, for the first time in over 50 years of voting, my husband and I will be registering to vote Independent!!
Yep, Rudy is looking pretty damn good right now.
BINGO!!! We have a WINNER!!! You are exactly right!
GTFOOH. Assume? In 2000? What about his vote FOR the 'bailout' in 2008?
What about is support of blanket Amnesty for illegal immigrants in 2007?
What about his support of increased 'gun control' in 2005?
What about McCain-Feingold in 2004?
McCains a frigging liberal.
If it weren't for Palin he'd have lost by ten million votes instead of just 5 million.
God, I am soooo sick of liberal newbies wandering in....
Agree with you completely. Wonder what a Giuliani/Palin ticket would have done.
Actually, McCain did lose by 10 million votes. To be exact, 9,522,111 votes the last time I checked.
Only a liberal would assume that a pro-life, pro-Iraq-war, pro-Bush, pro-Securing-our-borders, pro-free-market, pro-tax-cuts, pro-2nd-amendment, pro-national-security, pro-cutting-back-spending, pro-small-government Republican like JOHN MCCAIN, “is a liberal”.
Ignorance is bliss, maybe you should have read John McCain’s website and his voting record a little better. Did he make mistakes? YES. Did he cross the aisle a bit too much? YES. Was he still a conservative and held strong on conservative issues? YES.
John McCain may have had some liberal votes at times, but he voted against liberals waaaay more. So let’s average his pro-conservative votes in, and then we see the TRUE story.
Let me clarify, John McCain is not the perfect conservative. That doesn’t mean that a more perfect conservative in your view, could have done any better.
McRino was pro-Amnesty. That ain't 'securing' sh**, Scooter.
Pro tax cuts? McCain voted AGAINST the Bush tax cuts. Remember that Skippy?
Pro free market? McCain voted to throw the the last vestiges of the free market into the scrap heap with his idiotic support of the bank 'bailout'.
Pro 2nd Amendment? McCain voted against gun owners with his support of closing a non-existent 'gun show loophole'.
Listen noob, McCain got his ass handed to him because he's a liberal. He was quite rightly rejected by the Party base because he's been pissing on us for decades all the while trying to convince us it's raining.
Peddle your BS somewhere else RINO. It ain't wanted here.
Our job is to toss traitors like you OUT of the Republican Party, not let more of you in.
It’s the turn to pandering, spending, big government and giving up on winning issues with great ideas that has ruined the GOP. People like Rudy, McCain, and the Bush family are the sources of the trouble.
Giuliani could not win anything. Witness the primaries.
And McCain was never the selection of social conservatives either: he hates social conservatives.
McCain has never been for the Right to Life.
He is a liar whom no one likes.
He supported the Iraq War.
Exactly what sort of snow was McCain supposedly as pure as?
>>Pro securing our border? You’re demonstrably insane.
McRino was pro-Amnesty. That ain’t ‘securing’ sh**, Scooter.<<
McC is actually worse than just “pro-amnesty.” He is one of the ring leaders, and he won’t give up. But he is, apparently, a good enough liar to fool some naive individuals like the OP here.
Don’t call me naive, when you’re the idiot who didn’t read McCain’s website and policies of securing our borders and his backing off of amnesty.
Things he’s said:
“# Ive never supported amnesty. (Jan 2006)
# We have to secure the borders first. (Jan 2006) “
“Deport 2 million illegal immigrants who committed crimes. (Jan 2008) “
These are paraphrases from John McCain.
# Voted YES on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
# Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
It’s not the prettiest voting record for immigration, but that is because the constituency he has in Arizona — the businesses there REQUIRE illegal aliens to run business. This is why he supported liberal legislation in the past. He later admitted he was wrong to do that.
A damned lie! He can't wait to try to do it again.
>># We have to secure the borders first. (Jan 2006) <<
Talk is cheap. You are naive. Hillary and Obama claim they will "secure the borders." McCain's amnesty bill last year would have granted instant legal status. Kennedy approves.
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