Posted on 01/22/2009 6:17:20 AM PST by steve-b
Here's a chilling interview of former NSA analyst Russell Tice conducted by Keith Olbermann. While I'm not the biggest Olbermann fan in the world, he asked some important questions about how far the NSA went during the Bush administration. It's a chilling interview. Hopefully restraining the NSA to 4th Amendment boundaries will be a priority for the Obama administration.
And while we are talking about privacy, we also need to keep the government out of the panties of our 13-year-old daughters and our private health records, too.
I’m sure the person assigned to spy on me is bored stiff.
What’s the deal posting Keith olbermann articles? The guy gives pond scum a bad name.
Hey, don’t sell yourself short. There was some juicy stuff there! :-)
Pish Posh! Americans are more worried about “Speed Cams”.
So we elect a potential communist dictator to help guide us to a more fair and balance direction?????
Well, if the NSA under President Bush did a bit of snooping on Americans, I’d bet we ain’t seen nothing yet.
“I’m sure the person assigned to spy on me is bored stiff.”
Not really, I have many other cases assigned to watch over.
By the way, your computer screen looks dusty from here, you may want to get some of that computer screen cleaner at Target.
odumbo’s making a list, and checking it twice...
No Such Agency has always been kind of creepy. They’ve done nasty evil stuff during every administration.
If you are expected to catch terrorists in your net, you have to also look at the lives of innocent citizens. Many are innocent, but act suspicious, while a few are terrorists who act innocent. What else can you do but apply the filters to their lives to sort them all out? Unless you advocate letting terrorists freely move amongst us to preserve your privacy.
Keith Olbermann, girl panties- good search words to fit together.
This guy is gonna love it when O’s army descends on his household to sign up his daughter for volunteer service. He’d probably be amazed how much information O’s people know about him. and it wasnt gathered looking for terrorism..
I’ll really start worrying when they learn how to tap the POTS quietly; those clicks are sort of reassuring...
How does my hair look? Is the cut me or what?
No Such Agency.
“NSA had access to every telephone call in the US.” So does every telephone company repairman with a buttset on his hip!
“Oh, my God. They were listening to JOURNALISTS!” Trust me, they were not listening to Ann Landers. Imagine the manpower necessary to do that. If a journalist was talking to a terrorist, I am SO glad they monitored the conversation.
“Oh my God. They were listening to US citizens.” If US citizens were talking to terrorists, I'm so glad they did listen.
Bottom line of interview; Tice knows nothing. Olbermann and the NTY were simply trying to create an anti-Bush story where one did not exist. Foolish Bush took the bait and tried to explain it, rather than saying; “Tough sh*t. There is a war on. If you think it's more important for your peperoni-ordering conversation to be secret than for American to not be killed, then go invent some country where you can have that.”
The spying will be increased, but because the targets will be the politically incorrect, the MSM will show no interest.
LLS
Time to start thinking of countermeasures.
“How does my hair look? Is the cut me or what?”
Yawn.... By the way, when are you going to finish that book? Been sitting on your night table for months now.
What’s the scoop on the Lefty Hard-on for xNSA analyst Russell Tice? I am always sceptical of the Lefty Whistleblowers...not that they would have any bias???
**Unless you advocate letting terrorists freely move amongst us to preserve your privacy.**
I advocate exactly that if it does not facilitate the expansion of secret investigations of innocent people. I reference a twentieth century western European power that did something similar...
“The controversy following revelations that U.S. intelligence agencies have monitored suspected terrorist related communications since 9/11 reflects a severe case of selective amnesia by the New York Times and other media opponents of President Bush. They certainly didn’t show the same outrage when a much more invasive and indiscriminate domestic surveillance program came to light during the Clinton administration in the 1990’s. At that time, the Times called the surveillance ‘a necessity.’”
Not unless you want to live in a land of slaves. Disgusting, base, and shameful, this supine welcome to a police state. No such country is worth defending.
Tice...whistleblower ? or traitor ( He leaked the wiretap story to NYT)
I agree with keeping the government out of the panties of your 13 year old. But hey, let’s go a little further. I want the government out of my bathroom so I install and use whatever type of toilet I want to use. I want the government out of my kitchen so I can eat whatever I want. I want the government out of my living room so I can enjoy whatever program without a warning label. I want the government away from my radio so I can listen to whoever I want to. I want the government out of my den so I can use my computer any way I want. I want the government out of my yard so I can remove anything I want or plant/build anything I want. I want the government out of my car so I can with or without seatbelts or smoke in it if I want to. Are you getting the picture?
I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.
Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.
I doubt it has changed since I was in the program
I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.
Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.
I doubt it has changed since I was in the program
I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.
Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.
I doubt it has changed since I was in the program
I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.
Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.
I doubt it has changed since I was in the program
I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.
Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.
I doubt it has changed since I was in the program
If you staple the tin-foil it won’t blow off your head in the wind!
Something doesn’t smell right with this Tice moron.
Anybody have a full bio on him? Dates, etc.?
His statements about what he works and what he knows don’t jive. Plus I can’t see the NSA keeping him on after revoking his security clearance just to pump gas and be a chauffer. Hell of a salary to be paid as an Intel Analyst to do that stuff. If he was the source of a security breach they should have fired him on the spot.
Still, he’s got a sweet gig going on. Keep flitting from liberal interviewer to liberal interviewer, drop key phrases to cause frothing at the mouth (evesdrop on US citizens, retaliation, Bush) and then tell everyone, well, sorry, I can’t get into specifics because they’ll throw me in jail. Next.
The NSA spying on American citizens is well known as in, for example, its eavesdropping of international personal calls of American soldiers to their families. Hopefully, now that Republcans are out of power, more conservatives will start finally caaring about this.
“...Yawn.... By the way, when are you going to finish that book? Been sitting on your night table for months now...”
Ha! What’s title?
BTW. I don’t have night table.
Wipe that smirk off your face.
I would hope they have my profile on their computers. An FBI guy does the security clearance interviews and is typically way late. And their handwriting is really bad. They all better have me on their servers. I work on chit that requires a clearance. It’s a good resume` enhancement to have a clearance.
Yeah, a would be communist dictator who already is appointing his hench men to put limits on the bill of rights. I was reading some of the blogs this morning and came across a video of Holder, during the Clinton administration, advocating censorship of the internet. He also supports the fairness doctrine, and national gun licensing.
You know the guy that runs the lab at Area-51 in the movie “Independence Day”?
80% of NSA employees are JUST LIKE THAT.
The x-employees with enough of a grudge to talk? Those people make that guy look socially normal.
Consider the source.
“Consider the source.”
If you don’t want to consider the source of the information, then consider the source of the reporting medium.
Dubious combined with dubious equals dubious squared.
Total BS from the fevered swamp of Olbermann.
And that, ladies and germs, is the precise issue. There is a balance between liberty and security. Virtually any policy, idea, or change in the law move this equilibrium to either side of this sliding scale. Most of our policy-makers, and most American voters, seem to be very intent on increasing security, at the cost of "just a little liberty here and there". Drip, drip, drip... every day, it drips away. =^(
What are you, crazy?
I use velcro.
If they were monitoring a few democrat party propagandists who were helping terrorists I don’t care. The idea that they have the time, inclination or even computing/database power to track all of us is ridiculous. Can they feed all of the calls, emails etc they have access to through filters to screen for key words and phrases? Yep, but there is no database or datacenter large enough to do much else. People are not listening in or viewing all of that traffic, computers are and if the data stream does not contain any of the words and phrases they are interested in then the data stream is discarded, NOT STORED. Even the data of interest that is sent on for further screening is discarded if nothing is found. There are not enough employees in the entire federal government to actively and personally track even a fraction of the data streams.
I wish they were a fraction as "evil" as the idiot population believes, then we might have known the USSR was about to collapse and, oh, yeah...radical Islam had declared war on us.
It’s not infantile anything. Nobody really knows what the hell the NSA does, their very mission statement was classified for a long time, that right there should creep you out. We know they sniff communications, we don’t know how, we don’t know which, we just know that they specialized in intercepted communications and we’re told their SUPPOSED to not monitor domestic communications but that every few some story comes out that indeed the do monitor domestic communications.
If that doesn’t scare you, you’re not thinking. Remember the government is not your friend, and the more secretive the section of the government in question is the more not your friend it is.
Oh, pulease. What a load of garbage. Like I said, I wish our intelligence agencies were as super scary as people like you think they are.
No garbage in there at all. And may your wish never ever come true. That’s probably the single most dangerous wish anybody has ever wished.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.