Skip to comments.Texas School Fires Coach for Winning Too Big: Gen. MacArthur Would Be Disgusted
Posted on 01/27/2009 9:14:14 AM PST by nysuperdoodle
I always thought coaches got fired for losing. On the same day he sent an email refusing to apologize for his team's success, a Texas high school girls' basketball coach was terminated. The coach, Micah Grimes, of Dallas' Covenant School, had come under fire for winning a game 100-0, making national news.
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In this mismatch the fired coach continued a full court press and fast break offense, grossly exacerbating the difference.
Firing the guy is ridiculous, but so was continuing a full-court press and shooting threes against a vastly inferior opponent.
I strongly believe that you do NOT do people favors by letting them win. Not even special-ed students.
Look on the bright side. At least Sullenberger wasn’t fired for saving too many passengers. After all, he might have hurt the feelings of the other pilots who are less skilled than he is.
“What he is supposed to say don’t play your best, the other team might cry.”
You can p[lay your best by practicing things that don’t run up the score so much. Things like a set offense or half-court defense.
There is no mercy rule in basketball.
“I strongly believe that you do NOT do people favors by letting them win.”
So a score of say 75-0 or even 75-2 would have been letting the other team win? Strange.
I think it would be wrong for the coach to cheat the other team out of the lesson they learned by losing 100-0. Forget about what message it would send to his own girls... that’s bad enough. You play sports 100% and I don’t think that the basketball court is an appropriate place to have equality-of-outcome liberalism rear its ugly head
The losing team was lucky that they weren’t playing Mayan
“There is no mercy rule in basketball.”
So when the coach of my son’s high school team (my son doesn’t play) sent in all subs when they were ahead by 30 with three minutes left the other night, he was violating this no-mercy rule?
Who scheduled such a mismatch?
There is a 10 run rule in Little League Baseball, maybe Girls Basketball needs something similar?
No. It is a gentleman’s understanding.
One "holiday season" my (new wife) and myself returned to my in-laws home . . . my father-in-law owned a ping pong table. We played over the next 10 days. He lost every game. My wife 'cut me off' one night and said "why don't you let daddy win a game?"
I said because he didn't win a game!
Almost 50 years later I have not understood the concept of "throwing" a game.
"War is Hell."
Unfortunately, far too many freepers can’t seem to grasp the concept either. Some cannot distinguish between “running up the score” and “letting the other team win”
>>In this mismatch the fired coach continued a full court press and fast break offense, grossly exacerbating the difference.<<
Not according to his staement.
But to be honest, I wasn’t there.
He did use the whole bench.
Then again, they might have tried harder.
>>He was not fired until after he publicly disagreed with the school’s statement about the game. This is most likely the reason. Whether or not he was truly fired for winning by ‘too’ much is a matter of debate.<<
I think you’ve hit the kernel here.
This is not about basketball. Basketball was merely the spark.
“I think it would be wrong for the coach to cheat the other team out of the lesson they learned by losing 100-0.”
Please detail the lessons learned by losing 100-0 that wouldn’t be learned by losing, say, 70-0. I breathlessly await your insights. I’m not talking here about missing shots on purpose or letting the other team shoot unopposed.
“You play sports 100% and I dont think that the basketball court is an appropriate place to have equality-of-outcome liberalism rear its ugly head.”
So I guess you would disagree with sending in subs when the game has been decided? I mean, after all, that would lower the score some.
First of all, no one is talking about throwing the game and second of all, it's basketball, not war. The coach exhibited rotten sportsmanship and deserves censure (not sure about firing). Running up the score against an obviously outclassed opponent shows a lack of class and should be criticized, not praised.
I just wanted to chime in to appreciate the irony of the title; since MacArthur was fired for wanting to win.
I was not there either but the person who did the firing reported it on the news. There is honor and respect among warriors on the field of play as well as on the field of battle. This was not honorable.
>>When did he pull his first stringers?<<
I believe it was after the first quarter. I could be wrong. His letter is posted on another thread and he explains it there.
In my daughter’s league, when the score became over 20 point margin, Pressing was shut of by the officials.
“Unfortunately, far too many freepers cant seem to grasp the concept either. Some cannot distinguish between running up the score and letting the other team win
Good way to put it. Hard to understand how a 70-0 game would have been “letting the other team win.”
Who expects to do their job well and then be publicly excoriated for it by their employers? He just returned fire. He was right to do so.
As to the score... would it be ok if he only won 50-0? Or would it have to be 20-0? or does he need to let them score? See where this is heading? It’s a slippery slope with nothing but “feelings” to guide you. It’s a symptom of a sick society that so many people want to criticize and penalize success.
The winning team has only 8 players.
You got it! His quote re: Army Football: Upon the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that, on other days, in other places, will BEAR THE FRUITS OF VICTORY.”
I rest my case
This is nonsense. The girls on that Dallas Academy team want to PLAY basketball! Because they are playing an inferior team they can’t play the style they enjoy?
If you don’t want this to happens, don’t put schools like this on your schedule!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what this coach did. This coach got screwed.
“In my daughters league, when the score became over 20 point margin, Pressing was shut of by the officials.”
Same in my son’s recreational league (the only level he could play), although they could still pick the dribbler up at half court, and I never, ever saw that result in the team that was ahead losing. They might have won by less. However, there’s no such rule in high school, and I don’t think there should be.
LOL, Complete horsecrap.
Yeah, that would be my question, as well.
Keeping the starters in after it got much past 40-0, or 50-0, would be rather unseemly.
I'd probably pull the starters [for good] at about 40-0, and tell the second-stringers to stop the full-court press no later than about 60-0 [and maybe a lot sooner than that].
I don't understand this sentiment. Since when is exhibiting good sportsmanship a symptom of a sick society? Frankly I dislike the way thuggish behavior has crept into sports today. The sack dances in football, the exaggerated celebrations of touchdowns, the taunting of opponents make sports more and more unpleasant to watch. There's the sickness. We need a return to the ethics of sportsmanship and need to stop celebrating the humiliation of opponents.
The Game. The game started like any other high school basketball game across the nation. The teams warm-up, coaches talk, the ball is tipped, and then the play begins. We started the game off with a full-court press. After 3 minutes into play, we had already reached a 25-0 lead. Like any rational thinking coach would do, I immediately stopped the full-court press, dropped into a 2-3 zone defense, and started subbing in my 3 bench players. This strategy continued for the rest of the game and allowed the Dallas Academy players to get the ball up the court for a chance to score. The second half started with a score of 59-0. Seeing that we would win by too wide of a margin, running down the clock was the only logical course of action left. Contrary to the articles, there were only a total of four 3-point baskets made; three in the first quarter, and only one in the third quarter. I continued to sub in bench players, play zone defense, and run the clock for the rest of the game. We played fair and honorably within the rules and in the presence of the parents, coaches, and athletic directors for both Covenant School and Dallas Academy.
Sportsmanship is doing your best and letting the cards fall where they may. Not coddling an inferior opponent. Wake up
The second stringers aren’t allowed to gather game experience using their teams appropriate strategy?
This is nonsense. You don’t want this score to happen, fire the AD for putting a high school with 20 girls on your schedule.
The coach did absolutely nothing wrong.
He needed to do one of a few things (or all)
Sit Back and not play so aggressively.. Play a zone not a press. Take time going down the court.
Play his second tier players
If he did all that and still won 100-0 I dont see a complaint... but he kicked the other team when they were down and refuses to see that running up the score is bad sportsmanship.
“LOL, Complete horsecrap.”
Thanks for the intelligent answer. So the 100-0 win taught the other team “complete horsecrap?” I agree.
100% innocent per this account.
Anyone ripping this coach should have their head examined.
compare life and death and high school hoops?
seriously, having been on the other thread on this same situation, it is pretty apparent that you either GET THIS or you don’t. there is no explaining it to people who can’t understand the difference between class/sportsmanship and throwing a game.
>>The winning team has only 8 players.<<
Yeah. It means that he not only used the bench but also wore out those that could not be substituted because he didn’t have enough players.
I think the main travesty of this game is either that it was ever scheduled, or that the other team was so poor for its position in the division, or whatever they call it.
How about you get your facts in order chief before you begin running your mouth. It’s quite clear you are completely befuddled by the real truth about what happened out there.
Nobody is saying ‘let them win’ just stop bashing in their skulls with 10 minutes left and you’re up by 70 points. Ditch the press, ditch the threes and send in the bench..
This was a Christian school which acted decidedly unchristian..
There ya go. Not to mention the losing team has been all over TV for their historic "loss".
Yes,, and combined with muddling the facts about what the coach did and what strategy he employed, you clearly DON’T GET IT!
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