Posted on 02/10/2009 5:51:28 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
It doesn’t matter what the Dems do, the media is going to tell the public how much better off they are.
IMO, ANYTHING the Dems do will be regarded as miraculous and stupendously successful.
So might as well stand on principle instead of sell outs with 30 tainted peices of silver.
I don’t really care what Rove has to say at this point...but Brokaw sure seems like an odd mouthpiece.
I think you’ve pegged it.
What was bad is now good; what was good in now bad or better. Depending, of course.
Everytime doughboy is on TV I turn him off. I can’t stand this creep. I think he was the one that gave GWB the bad advice on illegals and the spending. He can go fly a kite.
Yeah, that’s right, except Obama forgets to mentioned Bush doubled the deficit over 8 years, and Obama wants to triple it within his first 3 weeks in office.
He may be right. The real economic damage (inflation?) may not be apparent for a year or two or more, not to mention the power-grabbing details tucked into it.
But that doesn’t mean Republican should jump on board. Stand on principles. Perhaps some of the long-term damage will be visible by the time the 2010 elections roll around. Even if not, even if by then the power grab is complete and we have lost most, if not all, of our liberty, what is to be gained by signing on to demagogued evil? It will only increase Dim contempt for the Publies and confirm them in the belief that demagoguery wins every time.
Our real problem is that the people are now ripe for demagoguing. It’s been building for decades. The fight has to be on the level of getting through to people so that they wake up to the fact that they are being demagogued.
Rove’s too much into finessing in order to win. That’s what got us into this mess.
Its like what Rush has Flat out told us........its not that bad, Carter Admin -6.8% last year was a heck of alot worse econ. that this.......
Our GOP Congress people need to add this into why they are not supporting the Porkulus........its not that bad as compared to Jimmy Carter yrs....this bill is a huge overreaction...simply a power grab.....
Recessions are a natural phenom.....you only get depressions when govt & Treas overreact to try and prevent a recession....Whiskey & Gunpowder..
It could very well rebound......its not that bad vrs Jimmy Carter yrs @ -6.8% GNP
and really what credit can be given to the Pork-bill..only a small portion of it is to be even spent in 09’...it just is a coincidence that the vast majority of spending is to be done in 2010-—an election yr....
even the dem’s are telling us....the economy isnt that bad and this is just a power grab........
be like the Last Mohican-—read the trail....read between the lines.
That puts us in the position of the Democrats: good economy - bad.
Hopefully, the Republicans have enough morals that they won’t actively work to sabotage the economy - unlike the Democrats who spent the last decade doing doing so.
Our biggest problem.........is the crackup of the world FDR started contruction of.....piled on by LBJ, accelerated by Jimmy Carter & Clinton w/ Fannie Mae.......
Federal Mandated, unreveiwable spending up 700%....vrs annual budget spending of 204%......
and this bill isnt even going to address the 700% problem—just gonna add to it w/ Natl Health care
Rove holds some responsbility for the predicament we are in now. Remember his plan to out democrat the democrats and win a permanent majority forever? Well, here we are in the minority, out in the wilderness, and holding the massive bill for all the spending.
I agree with and many other commenters here that the GOP should stand on principle whether it is politically positive or not. The stimulus plan is wrong for America. But Rove may be right that it will end up costing the GOP votes if the economy improves in the next year and Obama gets all the credit. That’s a chance the GOP has to take.
This gives us some insight into why W was such a horrible president.
You got it-the bought and paid for media will uphold whatever the Kenyan usurper does, it doesn’t matter. They are already shilling for him with the “bipartisan” talking point-they know that the majority of Republican congressmen who vote against this crime are anxious (as they well should be) that the Republican party not be smeared with this shame, and that they stand apart from any blame for the fall-out. All it would’ve taken would’ve one R vote, much less three or four, for the ‘rats to have spurious “cover” for the responsibility for it. Laughing up their sleeves all the while, knowing darn well that it’s not bipartisan, and that in any other event would never be labeled as such. This is what really makes me mad. The Republicans in Congress are for once standing on principle, and because of a whored-out media, will not even get credit for that much.
How will most Americans, the ones who hear a soundbite or two from the evening news and consider themselves informed, ever really know the truth about the economy and what caused what? The whore media will spin this whichever way shine’s Hussein’s azz.
If Rove is for this package then we will know who led Bush astray.
You may not lose you principles...but you can lose elections...take for example the impeachment of Clinton (I don’t like Clinton so this in no way defends him), it was unpopular with the country...the GOP House knew the Senate would vote to acquit, but impeached anyway...the next election, the House lost GOP seats. You have to consider getting elected at some point (this may not be it-don’t know), or despite all your principles...the other guy wins.
Glad NYPD and NYFD don’t think like you do...or else they’d never stick their necks out and put themselves at risk to do what is right.
What good does it do to have a wobbly RINO in place if they will cave with a bit of pressure?
IMO, your explanation is exactly what is wrong with the GOP...duck to tough stuff to posture yourself for the next election, keep your seat no matter what.
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