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Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits? (Breaking on Fox
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Posted on 02/10/2009 6:27:34 AM PST by jessduntno

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To: WellyP
Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user is not defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time.”

I don't think it's going to be like what is offerred in Chile, because this piece is basically saying that you won't be able to have other coverage, without facing significant penalties.

101 posted on 02/10/2009 7:56:53 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: jessduntno

Aw heck, I’m not even thirty yet. Guess I don’t have to worry about this for a few years...

Kidding! Kidding!!!


102 posted on 02/10/2009 7:56:57 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Embrace what is wrong.)
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To: jessduntno
Limiting treatment by age (the older you are the less care you get) isn't, strictly speaking, Kill the Elderly.

That's how it will be parsed anyway.

Speaking of parsing didja see Arlen Specter today?

He kept saying he wouldn't vote for a bill that gave the government control over what medical care he could get.

Never once said anything about limiting the care we could get...

103 posted on 02/10/2009 8:14:14 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 22 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: jessduntno

Well, the old have a large carbon footprint and are stupid, according to Rev. Al Gore.


104 posted on 02/10/2009 8:17:13 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: null and void
Statistically, what are the odds that 3 of her first 6 children are disabled?

I made my comments - pressed "post" and found the thread was locked. So here's my reply anyhow...

Disability is the new welfare - without pesky social workers. It's sad because the cheats are taking away the resources and care from people who are really disabled.

I knew a person once who told me all 12 "kids" (ages from late twenties to early fifties) in the family were on disability and received a social security check every month. That means some members of that family could receive social security for over 60 years. To add insult to injury, this person was told by one of the brothers to "use mental" because it's hard to disprove.

I can assure you, most of these babies this woman had will be receiving social security checks for longer than you or I will be alive - or until they bankrupt the system. At which point they'll get jobs - and the truly disabled - and seniors to old to work - will die.

105 posted on 02/10/2009 8:18:59 AM PST by GOPJ (What's caused 19 deaths, makes travel difficult, and won't melt til April? Global Warming.FR:Dentist)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Why would they direct you to the ‘state’..when this is a federal bill affecting all states? AARP probably helped write this homicidal part of the bill because their healthcare program is ‘losing’ money on ‘old people’.

I am going to call them in a minute. Been kinda busy this morning. Will report back.


106 posted on 02/10/2009 8:21:27 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: mmichaels1970
there's a new bureaucracy created, the national coordinator of health information technology -- now, listen to this -- the national coordinator of health information technology will monitor treatments that your doctor gives you to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.

Big brother.

Orwellian.

Fascist.

107 posted on 02/10/2009 8:21:29 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: jessduntno
Safe houses for Seniors coming up?
108 posted on 02/10/2009 8:23:15 AM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama..................Repent Herod!................./Tom McClintock 2012!/)
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To: LongElegantLegs

I appreciate your saying you are kidding, but I hate to break it to everyone who is posting on this blog that nowhere in this bill about the health boards does it say it is only for senior health. IT IS FOR ANY TREATMENT AT ANY AGE! If you are a thirty year old woman and you develop a non-chemo sensitive tumor and have the genes that predispose you to breast cancer your life expectancy with treatment is only about 30% over 5 years. YOU WOULDN’T QUALIFY FOR TREATMENT BECAUSE OF THE COST VS LIFE EXPECTANCY RATIO THE BOARD WILL USE. Do not ignore the potential for the government to reach into our health care decisions for ourselves and...our...children.THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT SENIORS


109 posted on 02/10/2009 8:23:56 AM PST by Til I am the last man standing
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To: ponygirl

” Bottom line is that on this proposed program, Ted Kennedy right now would be wheeled out in his chair and placed next to the dumpster for the next trash pickup. “

Can we carve out an exception that this only applies to him???


110 posted on 02/10/2009 8:24:03 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: WellyP

Where are they indeed? This is outrageous and the leftist organizations just toe the line as usual. We need to speak up.

Also email the twits from Maine and Specter.


111 posted on 02/10/2009 8:24:43 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (Republicans Fight Back: New GOP Elects Mike Tyson's Brother-in-Law its Chair)
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To: penelopesire

It seems to me that a few years back, there was some division among the AARP members. It was something to do with where their membership fees were going, and to what issues they were concentrating on, candidates to support, etc.. I wish I could remember what the issue was. I do remember reading that a number of new people who were retiring were more activist (and very liberal!). There was a number of them who were more conservative.


112 posted on 02/10/2009 8:24:53 AM PST by dsutah
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To: maggief

“This man is not operating on all cylinders”

Don’t forget that this is the guy that came up with the “single bullet theory” in the Kennedy assasination.

He’s been non functioning for years.........


113 posted on 02/10/2009 8:26:25 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: jessduntno

Have there been any Soylent Green references yet?


114 posted on 02/10/2009 8:27:53 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: GOPJ

Thanks.


115 posted on 02/10/2009 8:28:11 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 22 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: MrB

In the old Soviet Union they used to call that the Nomenklatura. If you had the right “name”—i.e., the right party connections—you got treatment. Otherwise...


116 posted on 02/10/2009 8:30:27 AM PST by Gwaihir
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To: jessduntno

Also discussed on this thread last week:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2178025/posts


117 posted on 02/10/2009 8:30:58 AM PST by Moiraine
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To: rfreedom4u
They will deny the elderly the treatment they deserve and allow illegal aliens to continue to rape our health care industry. We better wake up right now or it will be too late. My blood is already boiling.
118 posted on 02/10/2009 8:33:41 AM PST by peeps36 ( Al Gore. Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: penelopesire

The guy that answered the phone was just learning about the bills content. He sent me to the state advocates office. He said that I was the second call he’d gotten about rationed care for seniors. The state advocates phone was busy and I got voicemail.


119 posted on 02/10/2009 8:34:04 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: r9etb

Please read the full column (link). It provides scary details of the plan and Daschle’s book (Daschle was still influential in advising on this issue).


120 posted on 02/10/2009 8:34:49 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (Republicans Fight Back: New GOP Elects Mike Tyson's Brother-in-Law its Chair)
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