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Video - The Next Great Military Weapon, The Rail Gun
notoriouslyconservative.com ^ | 02 10 09 | Notoriously Conservative

Posted on 02/10/2009 7:43:39 AM PST by Notoriously Conservative

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Aim one of these babies at Osama Bin Laden's cave, or goat farm, and blamo!!! Nothing but the stench of burnt beard and turban.

The weapon, which was successfully tested in October at the King George County base, fires nonexplosive projectiles at incredible speeds, using electricity rather than gun powder.

The technology could increase the striking range of U.S. Navy ships more than tenfold by the year 2020.

"It's pretty amazing capability, and it went off without a hitch," said Capt. Joseph McGettigan, commander of NSWC Dahlgren Division.

"The biggest thing is it's real--not just something on the drawing board," he said.

The railgun works by sending electric current along parallel rails, creating an electromagnetic force so powerful it can fire a projectile at tremendous speed.

Because the gun uses electricity and not gunpowder to fire projectiles, it's safer, eliminating the possibility of explosions on ships and vehicles equipped with it.

Instead, a powerful pulse generator is used.

The prototype fired at Dahlgren is only an 8-megajoule electromagnetic device, but the one to be used on Navy ships will generate a massive 64 megajoules. Current Navy guns generate about 9 megajoules of muzzle energy.

The railgun's 200 to 250 nautical-mile range will allow Navy ships to strike deep in enemy territory while staying out of reach of hostile forces.


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To: PreciousLiberty
One big advantage of this is that gun magazines (where the shells are stored) will no longer explode violently if hit in battle.

And coming in at the size of a watermellon, a U.S. warship can store hundreds of them ("stored kills"), as opposed to current conventional rounds and especially cruise missiles, which require hazardous resupply at sea, or else a return to port.

21 posted on 02/10/2009 8:14:59 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I wonder how long before they make ‘em handgun size.


Not quite handgun size, but close enough!

22 posted on 02/10/2009 8:17:06 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Nomen Klatura

It’s not an explosive warhead. It relies on kinetic energy.

If you think that this weapon is interesting, Google for “rods from God” which is an older and, I think, more interesting concept.


23 posted on 02/10/2009 8:18:32 AM PST by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry .45 caliber miracle.)
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To: AFreeBird
Another problem is crewing an Iowa battleship. It takes anywhere between 1,500 and 2,000 sailors, some with very special skills that don't even exist in the Navy anymore, to reactivate and operate one.

In fact, the Navy has lost the capability of manufacturing 16-inch guns, which used to be done at the Naval Gun Factory at the Washington Navy Yard, long since turned into a minimall and fitness center.

24 posted on 02/10/2009 8:22:54 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

1.34 X square root of the length of waterline will give you the hull speed!


25 posted on 02/10/2009 8:23:13 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Actually, the Navy has been playing around with railgun technology since 1946, when it examined captured German designs, which were ultimately considered unfeasible since they required their own city-scale power systems to just fire one shot.

OK, so the rail gun will work, but what about the impact on global warming? S/off

26 posted on 02/10/2009 8:26:43 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: WellyP

Lenth at waterline was about 825’. That gave the battleships a hull speed of aprox. 38.5 knots, 30+ knots at cruise.
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27 posted on 02/10/2009 8:27:22 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Malone LaVeigh

phased-plasma weapons in the 40-watt range?


28 posted on 02/10/2009 8:31:15 AM PST by printhead
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
We're talking about using them as a platform for rail guns. That means the 16 inchers would go.

Why use them as a platform. The hull. Designed for speed and heavily armored. Sure we could probably build newer ones, but these already exist.

Don't worry though, it's just a thought exercise here, and even if the Navy were to want to try, The Three Stooges (Pelosi, Reid, Zero) would say no.

29 posted on 02/10/2009 8:36:39 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

Its nickname is Big Burkha.


30 posted on 02/10/2009 8:51:49 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

The railgun’s 200 to 250 nautical-mile range will allow Navy ships to strike deep in enemy territory while staying out of reach of hostile forces......

Can it avoid the hostile forces of Zero?


31 posted on 02/10/2009 8:58:33 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: massgopguy
Big Burkha

Got me! LOL!

(Where can I get one?)

32 posted on 02/10/2009 8:58:33 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Not really. It’s firing an unguided projectile at a target that is 200 miles away. Granted, it is an interesting method, but existing weapons do a better job.

It will lose velocity every second that it’s in flight, and the seconds of flight depend on the length of the bullet arc. A 200 mile shot requires a high arc, which will be much greater than 200 miles. Unless it leaves the muzzle at an ungodly velocity, it will hit the target with a velocity more due to gravity more than propellant.

A Patriot missile goes about 5,600 f.p.s., has a rocket motor, and is guided. Its range is 100 miles. I can’t see how an unguided bullet will accomplish much of anything, unless against hardened targets. Soft targets will have about four minutes to get out of the way


33 posted on 02/10/2009 9:13:12 AM PST by sig226 (1/21/12 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I wonder how long before they make ‘em handgun size

Didn't Arnold S star in a movie that used this technology? What was the name of the film????

34 posted on 02/10/2009 9:39:03 AM PST by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: sig226
I can’t see how an unguided bullet will accomplish much of anything, unless against hardened targets.

They're not necessarily unguided---.

35 posted on 02/10/2009 9:39:17 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

You bet. Retrofit them with nuclear reactors and replace the 16” main guns with rail guns. Since there is no explosive acceleration, the projectiles can contain GPS guidance and can be dropped in a bucket from 300 miles.


36 posted on 02/10/2009 9:52:09 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

True, they could put fins on the projectile to guide it. But I still don’t see the exterior ballistics. Someone with better calculus kung fu could figure the trajectory, time of flight, and energy at impact. I think it will be very disappointing at long range.


37 posted on 02/10/2009 10:48:39 AM PST by sig226 (1/21/12 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
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To: sig226

Here are a few things that will make it sound better:

The shell is GPS-guided.

The 9 MJ gun can fire a 2 kg round at 3,000 m/s (almost 10,000 fps). The 64 MJ gun the Navy is looking for could fire a 14 kg round at the same velocity, a bigger one at lower velocity, or a smaller one faster.

The biggest advantages this would have is simplicity, safety, cost and numbers. Once you have the launch system taken care of, the projectile is a guided hunk of metal vs. maintaining rockets. Against regular rounds, there is no powder to worry about. Rounds will cost a LOT less than any missile, and a ship will be able to carry thousands of them without resupply. In mass production the cost would probably be in the low tens of thousands per guided round, probably hundreds for unguided.

It will lose some speed during flight, but still an impact will put maybe 60 megajoules into a target, the equivalent of about 14 kilos of TNT.

For ground attack at that range, this complements the Tomahawk, which only flies at 550 mph (20 minutes to that 200-mile target) but packs a bigger punch. You could spend almost six million dollars launching ten of them, then wait 20 minutes to target, or you could launch a few dozen of these and only wait four minutes. The choice of which to launch would depend on mission requirements.


38 posted on 02/10/2009 11:53:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I can't see the projectile made cheap. If the launcher was the length of the U.S.S. Nimitz, the projectile would reach peak velocity in about 1/10th of a second. The antennae, electronics, servos, and fins would have to withstand acceleration at several hundred times G and in-flight forces at 10,000 f.p.s. It would also have to have some hard core processors to remain on target considering its own velocity.

The 16” shells fired by battleships had a muzzle velocity around 2,200 f.p.s. The one that hit H.M.S. Glorious at 29,465 yards took 90 seconds to get there. It averaged 880 f.p.s., which means it lost over 65% of its initial energy. 200 miles is 352,000 yards, and that's not including the height of the bullet arc. At some point, it will expend all the energy it had when it was launched. Then it will just fall.

39 posted on 02/10/2009 12:29:37 PM PST by sig226 (1/21/12 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
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To: sig226
The antennae, electronics, servos, and fins would have to withstand acceleration

Our laser-guided Copperhead and GPS-guided Excalibur howitzer rounds already undergo thousands of Gs of acceleration upon firing. Due to possible interference from cloud cover, the Copperhead's fins pop out at low terminal trajectory to do final guidance to the target. The Excalibur pops its fins at the top of the arc, giving it a much wider range of correction to the target, but less accuracy due to GPS (10m vs. pinpoint for the Copperhead). All the initial firing has to do for both is get the round close enough to the target so that it is within the ability of the terminal correction.

It would also have to have some hard core processors to remain on target considering its own velocity.

The Copperhead is over 20 years old. The Excalibur has been used successfully in combat.

Glorious at 29,465 yards took 90 seconds to get there. It averaged 880 f.p.s., which means it lost over 65% of its initial energy.

Count four times the speed with a much smaller shell, probably a small fraction of the frontal cross-section and thus much less wind resistance. It's hard to calculate what arc they'd fire it in since I have no idea of the terminal velocity of the shell.

40 posted on 02/10/2009 1:03:09 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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