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Sam Waterston Reads Lincoln's "Emancipation Proclamation" - Video 2/12/09
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | February 12, 2009 | BrianinMO

Posted on 02/12/2009 8:59:00 AM PST by Federalist Patriot

Here is video of actor Sam Waterston reading President Abraham Lincoln's "Emancipation Proclamation" which was signed on January 1, 1863, officially freeing the slaves, though the Civil War would rage on for over two more years.

Waterston's reading is part of the celebration of Lincoln's birthday today, which is also the 200th anniversary of Lincoln's birth in Kentucky on February 12, 1809. . . . . . (Watch Video)

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomslighthouse.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: emancipation; lincoln; proclamation

1 posted on 02/12/2009 8:59:00 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

Excuse me for not being PC, but Lincoln freed SOME OF the slaves, not all. The Procalamation makes that clear.


2 posted on 02/12/2009 9:00:42 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Actually, the war and Lincoln’s subsequent Constitutional amendments freed the rest, so he did free all of them.


3 posted on 02/12/2009 9:02:32 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Federalist Patriot

I can’t stand Sam Waterson even though I love Law and Order. I think it is the character that I don’t like actually. It is great though to see him giving Abe Lincoln his due respect for the incredible job he did during his presidency.


4 posted on 02/12/2009 9:06:14 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: dinoparty

When was the 13th ratified? And what is the President’s role in an amendment?


5 posted on 02/12/2009 9:06:19 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Federalist Patriot
Sam Waterston, another liberal crashing in on the Lincoln legacy. Next liberal up, Liam Neeson, as old Abe.

Happy 200th birthday to a great American, a great President and the first Republican.

6 posted on 02/12/2009 9:08:57 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: DBrow
When was the 13th ratified? And what is the President’s role in an amendment?

Lincoln had been calling for such an amendment for a while, but while it passed the senate, it couldn't pass in the house. In 1864, Lincoln pushed to have a call for the amendment added to the Republican platform. When he won the election and the Republicans gained seats in the house, it was able to pass. Lincoln signed the amendment, even though it was unnecessary and had never been done before to show his backing. Twenty-one states passed the amendment before Lincoln was assassinated.

7 posted on 02/12/2009 9:18:20 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Federalist Patriot

“...officially freeing the slaves...”

In the southern states.....the states which had seceded....over which lincoln had debatable authority...and did not affect the northern states.

yep, with generations believing him the greatest prez ever, no wonder we are in the dire straits we find ourselves.

Hamiltonian federalism turns into the henry clay American plan. The AP turns into the “restoration,” the restoration turns into the new deal, and the new deal becomes the new new deal on friday the 13th, 2009. Every step of the way, people who believe lincoln to be the greatest pre, have voted or had their representation vote more government control over daily life.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm social democracy......

WE ARE SO BONED!


8 posted on 02/12/2009 9:23:09 AM PST by petro45acp (A government may create work, but only a free market creates jobs, careers, and growth!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Correct, signing the amendment was not needed and unconstitutional.

I’ll cede that Lincoln’s actions eventually freed the slaves ( a very good and necessary thing), but he did not do it through the Emancipation Proclamation.


9 posted on 02/12/2009 9:35:35 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Federalist Patriot

Who will emancipate the slaves’ descendants from victim mentality and liberal brainwash?


10 posted on 02/12/2009 9:38:04 AM PST by Julia H. (Dissent is only the highest form of patriotism when Democrats are not in power.)
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To: Julia H.

The best version I remember ever hearing of Linclon’s Gettysburg Address was donw by the late Senator Everett Dirksen. He was ONE hell of a guy and other than Linclon himself the only other person from Illinois that I would have wanted for president. I wish I could find a audio file of his presentation.


11 posted on 02/12/2009 9:43:59 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: DBrow
Correct, signing the amendment was not needed and unconstitutional.

Not unconstitutional, just aconstitutional. It was the strongest way he could show his endorsement. Several amendments have been signed by presidents since.

12 posted on 02/12/2009 9:51:06 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: DBrow

December 1865. Seeing as though the amendment was made possible by the war and was foreseen by everyone (including Lincoln), it is quite reasonable to give him the credit.


13 posted on 02/12/2009 10:01:15 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Reagan Man

It’s totally appropriate. Liberals love the lip-service to the Constitution that Lincoln was good at, ignoring the principles of the Founders in truth, and he was concerned with their favorite issue - blacks. They love pushing the race card, and Lincoln is a favorite, as far as being the antithetical white guy who did everything for blacks, the most oppressed people ever.


14 posted on 02/12/2009 2:46:54 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: petro45acp

Pretty astute.

The thing is in truth, we are more heirs probably the Democrats of that time than the Republicans, and vice-versa. Although I’d definitely say we have now plenty of Federalist roots.

In any case, it seems to me the Republican/Democrat thing flipped perhaps c.1920 or so. Even Teddy Rooselvelt in truth did alot of things anti-libertarian, and more government-interventionist than there should be.


15 posted on 02/12/2009 2:51:40 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
As Rush said today there are a lot of myths being perpetuated about Lincoln. Your post is part of the problem with the history on Lincoln being so misunderstood.

"RUSH: Now, folks, I don't know how in the world Abraham Lincoln could be called a "bipartisan" by anybody. Abraham Lincoln was one of the most partisan presidents we've ever had, and you know what his bias was? His bias was the Constitution. He was biased toward the Constitution of the United States."

"We, the people, are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the constitution". ~~~ Abraham Lincoln

16 posted on 02/12/2009 3:03:31 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I think too many people misunderstand the Founders, what they went through (and I mean the people as a whole), and thus how the document came about. That includes people mistaking Lincoln as a great champion of the Constitution. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so. Just like today’s liberals paying lip service when it serves them.

There is nothing of the Confederacy about “overthrowing the Constitution”. They only wanted to secede, and part ways with it. There is nothing inherently wrong with that in nature, nor against the Constitution. Else there would’ve been something wrong with New Englanders even threatening to secede in 1812. No-one questioned that right back then; only when the “evil” south wanted to, and now beyond.

As for Lincoln being partisan - yes, in many ways. And more power to him. At least he wasn’t a namby-pamby shifty-eyed charlatan trying to hide the truth.


17 posted on 02/12/2009 6:47:51 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
>>>>>>I think too many people misunderstand the Founders...

Agreed. And you're one of those people. Some kinda wacko still fighting the Civil War. Actually, you're no better than the liberals you bitch about. Carry on.

OTOH. Lincoln, Rush and myself, we know what the Constitution is all about and not because I say so either.

18 posted on 02/12/2009 7:38:15 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

A big lib, true, but he did donate to Fred Thompson’s campaign last year. And I’ve never heard him publicly say anything stupid, so he gets a pass from me.


19 posted on 02/12/2009 7:46:28 PM PST by denydenydeny (People in dictatorships long for truth while pampered, decadent people in the West long for myth.)
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To: denydenydeny

For a liberal DA, “Jack McCoy” ain’t bad. His donation to friend “Arthur Branch” is understandable.

Back in the real world....


20 posted on 02/12/2009 7:54:00 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Good comeback. Real insulting.

As for me, George Washington is my hero and the greatest of all.

In fact, the revolutionary/federal era is my preferred department. People who suffered much worse and against much greater odds, truly “brother vs. brother”, than Confederates deserve attention, and I like to give it to them. That is my perspective. Including the very fact that they themselves were doing the same thing as Confeds and recognized it as a natural right to do so. Even Jefferson mentions this a gazillion times. Secession is not evil and is not “against the law”.


21 posted on 02/13/2009 9:46:57 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
>>>>>Good comeback. Real insulting.

Thanks, it was meant to be. As was yours, whiner.

22 posted on 02/13/2009 9:53:15 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

How insulting? Point it out.


23 posted on 02/13/2009 9:55:42 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Words have meaning. Yours are weak and pathetic.

Never been into “lip service”, “liberal” or otherwise.


24 posted on 02/13/2009 10:08:06 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I did not insult you. Period. YOU DID insult me, and continue to do so.

If you don’t like my views about Lincoln and the Constitution, perhaps you should take it up with Walter Williams, for one.


25 posted on 02/13/2009 12:54:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I’m taking it up with you, bucko.

Besides being thin skinned, you’re a liar to boot.


26 posted on 02/13/2009 2:27:45 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I have no clue what you’re talking about. Insulting, thin-skinned (did I go off half-cocked like you?), liar (about what?)?

You can’t even answer my simple question.

Pretty apparent who’s the belligerent dodger. And apparent I didn’t do much because you can’t answer the question.

Funny how you get your bristles up so easily when we probably share much more than we disagree.


27 posted on 02/13/2009 7:09:37 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
After you toss around barbs, then you lie, then you deny, now you obfuscate. You're a typical malcontent.

As long as you run around this forum denouncing Lincoln, refighting the Civil War and infer that conservatives like Rush and myself are no better than liberals paying lip service to the Constitution, you won't find many folks agreeing with you.

Hope that clears up your obvious confusion.

28 posted on 02/13/2009 7:44:58 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

You still haven’t told me what “barbs” I shot at you. Lie about what? You are libeling me, incidentally. You seem way oversensitive, whatever it is.

I didn’t infer that “conservatives” are no better than liberals. I said LIBERALS like Lincoln because he did something for their favorite group, and he opened up alot of cans of worms for big government. And liberals, like Lincoln in many cases, pay lip service to the Constitution.

I just don’t think many people, including many conservatives, really understand the Founders and the founding era and how that went into the Constitution. Nor how it conflates with the “Civil War” situation. I can’t help thinking many conservatives stick with Lincoln because he was “the 1st Republican” and they like what he did. But many of us DON’T, to either part.

It’s not a huge deal to me as it is to you. I don’t “re-fight” the Civil War because too many people already do that and I don’t think it’s fair to the other soldiers in other wars (besides WWII). I’m still much more concerned with the lack of knowledge (much less interpretation) of the whole founding era - the Revolution, etc. I’m very big on the Revolution and the miracle it was - and how it was also a civil war, much more than the “US Civil War”.

Too bad you can’t just have a civil discussion, apparently, without whipping out a bad attitude; all I did was state my view in straight terms, even if not in the best English. I’m more than willing to discuss; I just have an opinion that happens to offend many people.


29 posted on 02/14/2009 7:03:43 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Still confused, I see.

>>>>>You are libeling me, incidentally.

LOL Thanks for a good laugh.

30 posted on 02/14/2009 9:08:01 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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