Skip to comments.WINSTONíS HEAD WAS HERE
Posted on 02/16/2009 8:49:49 AM PST by andrew roman
What do John Lennon and Barack Obama have in common, you may ask? (There isn't enough bandwidth in the Western Hemisphere to sufficiently respond).
The answer ... they both rejected Winston Churchill.
Lennon did so when he publicly renounced his birth name of John Winston Lennon in favor of John Ono Lennon, although never legally. (His mother named him Winston after being overcome with an irresistible wave of patriotism as the Battle of Britain waged in 1940).
Obama rejected Churchill by returning a prized bronze bust of the great statesman and wartime leader (created by Sir Jacob Epstein) that was loaned to the White House by Great Britain after the 9/11 attacks.
It was displayed proudly and prominently in the Oval Office through all of President Bush's two terms, but when the Brits graciously offered the new President the opportunity to keep it for another four years, Barack Obama opted to send it back.
A bust of Abraham Lincoln now sits where Churchill did in the Oval Office.
And why, pray tell, was President Obama so quick to give the heave-ho to Churchill's head?
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Churchill was a great (if honorary) American. Churchill is an excellent example of a leader in times of duress. Someone the O could learn from, too.
Communists and their fellow travelers all hate Churchill.
Churchill is one of my favorite all time humans. Lincoln is one of my least admired persons in history along with JF Kennedy. Both of those fools nearly brought us to utter destruction.
Churchill tried to tell everyone they were terribly wrong about Hitler and Communists. He was derided and drummed out as nut. In the end, he was proven right (not that he wanted to be vindicated by the deaths of millions at Hitler’s hand). I sympathize with him because i think many of us on this board are treated like Churchill despite the fact we use common sense and see the dangers posed by our enemies and the enemies within (socialist democrats).
Zero will model himself after Lincoln and Jackson. Look for an imperial presidency, utterly unconcerned with the Bill of Rights or any other constitutional limits on presidential power.
FDR and Churchill were actually very friendly.
Churchill’s mother was American, and, based on the Obama precedent, he should have been allowed to run and serve as American president.
Winston held dual British/American citizenship till the age of 21, as his mother was American. At 21 he had to decide whether he would be a British or American citizen.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Three guesses why Barry kicked him to the curb.
Teheran Conference Nov. 28-Dec. 1
1st meeting of Big 3: FDR, Churchill, Stalin
The first session began in the evening of Nov. 28 at the
U.S. Legation with military strategy as the highest
all agreed to emphasize cross-channel invasion , not
“OVERLORD in May” promised
but date moved to June to allow 68 LSTs for Anzio in
all agreed on independence of Iran
3-Power Declaration of 6 Dec. 1943
all agreed on the idea of a U.N. postwar organization
FDR’s one-world idea, not Churchill’s regionalism.
Four-Power Declaration at Moscow Oct. 30.
UNRRA organized Nov. 9 - 44 nations by 1945.
FDR made commitment to internationalism, but said US
would withdraw troops from Europe after war, depend on
Navy and Air Force to keep the peace.
Stalin agreed to Cairo decisions Nov. 26.
Russia to enter the war against Japan
Korea independent, Manchuria returned to China
no British-U.S. agreement on Rhodes, Burma, or postwar
Stalin sought “security belt” of the Baltics, Poland,
partition of Germany; said he would not annex Finland
but the Finns needed to be “taught a lesson” and Stalin
would take out reparations.
FDR in private talks with Stalin agreed to a Curzon line
for Poland in the east and moving the German border back
to the Oder, and agreed some transfer of population would
be necessary “on a voluntary basis” to allow Russia to
take back Ukraine and Belorussia from Poland.
FDR proposed dismemberment of Germany into 5 smaller parts
(surprised Churchill) and Stalin wanted to take part of
East Prussia to get the warm water Baltic port of
Konigsberg (became Kaliningrad).
FDR willing to accomodate Stalin; Churchill was isolated;
Stalin joked at dinner that Churchill was soft on Germany
and that it may be necessary to execute 50,000 German
officers; Churchill replied that he would never agree to
such “barbarous acts” but FDR joked that perhaps 49,000
They should send him one of Neville Chamberlain to replace Churchhill.
I did not know that he held dual citizenship prior to turning 21. Thanks
Clement Attlee might be more appropriate.
FDR apparently felt no need to commit America to defend the interests of the British Empire. I have no problem with that.
It is obvious Churchill, with his usual prescience, was more concerned with the potential for a Soviet threat after the war than was FDR.
This hardly makes FDR and Churchill enemies.
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