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Sarah Palin: Horns of a Dilemma
March 5, 2009 | techno

Posted on 03/05/2009 8:00:24 AM PST by techno

Yesterday Governor Sarah Palin chose a woman for the Supreme Court of Alaska who once sat on Planned Parenthood in Alaska and was opposed by social conservatives in Alaska. The other choice was a man who had a history of being a strong environmental activist who many conservatives were not happy with either.

NB:in 2010 the Alaskan people will have their say and can accept her or reject her at that time.

In Alaska the Judicial Council considers 6 candidates and then narrows it down to 2. These two are then submitted to the Governor where one has to be chosen. The Governor is not permitted any other choices. (Governor Murkowski tried to throw it back to the Judicial Council and he was rebuffed.)

Now the question observers ask did Sarah Palin betray the pro-life movement in choosing a candidate that has pro-choice views, by performing a task in which she had virtually no choice or did she have a choice and should she have stood on principle (pro-life) and thrown it back to the Alaskan Judicial Council in defiance knowing that it would most likely be thrown back to her with an attendant controversy and furor that would have caused battle lines to be drawn in Alaska, permanent rifts to arise, and gridlock to occur in the legislature or between the legislature and the Governor?

Frankly, I am pro-life. I don't know the answer. Is Sarah Palin an expedient politician, a target of circumstances, or a villain?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; palin; plannedparenthood; politics; prolife
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1 posted on 03/05/2009 8:00:24 AM PST by techno
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To: techno

bump for later


2 posted on 03/05/2009 8:02:52 AM PST by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: techno

If you are given the choice of A or B, and C isn’t listed, if the law doesn’t allow C, choose A or B.. the question is, what does this possibly pro-abortion leaning choice have in way of legal responsibility regarding this issue? Is this a court that hears these cases and/or makes judgments on these cases that will matter? Is this candidate conservative in other areas? There is a lot of information we don’t know to knee jerk any conclusion.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 8:05:06 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: techno

Welcome to Free Republic.


4 posted on 03/05/2009 8:05:11 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (2010 Conservative GOP sweep of primaries (knocking off RINO after RINO) and then winning in Nov)
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To: techno

My humble opinion is this:

Throwing it back does nothing. It’s a futile effort, that really doesn’t even have much symbolism, given the recent history. Unfortunately, she was presented with the choices she had and I’m sure made what she felt was the best decision. Of course, I believe a person can be pro-choice/pro-life politically, and see things differently through a judicial eye, but I know nothing of either candidate.

My questions would be: Is the other candidate pro-life? (Being a rabid environmentalist, I doubt it.)What critera did Gov. Palin make the decision on? How did the two candidates match up on other judicial decisions/opinions?


5 posted on 03/05/2009 8:06:52 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan (I no longer have a President. I pray I have a country in 4 years. I'd be embarrassed too, Joe.)
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To: mnehrling

Bravo! Agree!


6 posted on 03/05/2009 8:07:25 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan (I no longer have a President. I pray I have a country in 4 years. I'd be embarrassed too, Joe.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Is the other candidate pro-life? (Being a rabid environmentalist, I doubt it.)

Good point, the so called pro-choice candidate may have been considerably more pro-life than the other choice.. For all we know based on the article, the candidate chosen may have been labeled pro-choice by some group that even considers life of the mother issues as pro-choice.

7 posted on 03/05/2009 8:09:36 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: techno

it’s obvious that the dems set her up with a situation they hope they can throw back at her later.

and this ‘vanity’ sounds an awful lot like a troll/operative testing the waters


8 posted on 03/05/2009 8:10:51 AM PST by sten
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To: techno
Murkowski tried to buck the Alaska Judicial Council and had his head handed to him.

She made the best of 2 impossibly bad choices. She took the unusual step of requesting the full dossiers of both candidates before making this decision. The economic well-being of all Alaskans probably weighed heavily in her decision.

Alaskans will have the opportunity to vote yay or nay on this woman jurist in 2010.

9 posted on 03/05/2009 8:11:51 AM PST by Al B.
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To: techno

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2199650/posts


10 posted on 03/05/2009 8:12:26 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: mnehrling

The problem is the two choices she has to pick from are justices who don’t align with her conservative views.
Alaska’s judges are selected using the Missouri Plan, which combines election and appointment in choosing the judge. The Alaska Judicial Council selects the nominees from which the governor can then make an appointment. As one conservative Web site explained, “she’s boxed in tighter than Florida Gov. Charlie Crist.”

A total of six judges applied, but only two were elected by the Judicial Council, Eric Smith, considered very liberal, and Morgan Christen, who is viewed as more of a moderate. Christen and Smith were rated with scores of 4.3 and 4.5 out of a 5 point scale used to elect judges by the council.

The four other nominees scored between 3.7 and 2.4 and were not sent to Palin for consideration.


11 posted on 03/05/2009 8:13:14 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Here bio here doesn’t list Planned Parenthood.
http://www.rasmuson.org/index.php?switch=viewpage&pageid=162

This bio lists her as on the board of United Way.
http://www.anchoragechamber.org/cms/Default.asp?Page=55

I wonder if it is one of those cases where the group is pulling up the connection between the United Way and Planned Parenthood and assuming she is pro-choice because of that.


12 posted on 03/05/2009 8:14:38 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan; techno

Reading about the other choice, Smith, he is a radical hippie who makes the 9th Circuit look Conservative.. Looks like Palin made the best choice with what was presented her.


13 posted on 03/05/2009 8:17:00 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: sten

Actually I am a strong Sarah Palin supporter and those who read FR frequently can attest to that. But by the same token it does not make me a ‘blind stupid Obamatron’.

The reason I bring this up is that I am thinking ahead. Will this decision impact her support and simply will pro-life adherents (especially Team Sarah) consider withdrawing support from her if she decides to run for the Presidency in 2012?


14 posted on 03/05/2009 8:17:26 AM PST by techno
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To: techno

Life is more important than ANYTHING. The environment doesn’t matter if your never born.

There may be more to the story though, is the lady in question really ProChoice?


15 posted on 03/05/2009 8:18:40 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: techno

No it won’t because there will be many of us who will remind folks who bring up the issue what the options where in front of her.. Compared to Smith, Christen is a saint.


16 posted on 03/05/2009 8:19:03 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: techno

It might actually help Palin with Independent women in 2012 if she decides to run.


17 posted on 03/05/2009 8:21:03 AM PST by Al B.
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To: techno

she was forced to choose between two candidates, picking the one that could do the least harm to her state

a mother seeking to abort her child can always cross state lines, so picking the envirowhacko would not prevent that from occurring.

picking the pro-choice justice prevents the envirowhacko from hurting Alaska

jmo


18 posted on 03/05/2009 8:22:15 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Al B.

But would Sarah risk alientating the pro-life community by giving this decision too much attention? Wouldn’t she be walking a fine line?


19 posted on 03/05/2009 8:22:45 AM PST by techno
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To: TomasUSMC; techno; All

I’m still looking around (see other posts) but that is a key question.. The very liberal “People for the American Way” is complaining that Christen is too ‘right’ and isn’t sure she supports fully a woman’s choice(sic)..
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/node?page=1

I found this article on Zimbo that said “She (Christen) is Christian and pro-life, but also a supporter of birth control..”
http://www.zimbio.com/Bristol+Palin/news/archive

It may be they are using the Catholic standard that even birth control, like the pill, is not a pro-life stance


20 posted on 03/05/2009 8:23:22 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mnehrling
The only claim that Christen was on PP during the 1990's I could find, was an unsourced claim in the ADN (Alaska leftist paper).

It is correct that both judges were non-conservative, Smith being very liberal, however I wouldn't rule out that the PP claim isn't entirely true. I would like to see further proof for this, since there is no official source evident for this claim.

21 posted on 03/05/2009 8:26:29 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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National right to life doesn’t even have Christen on their radar as someone to oppose.
http://search.nrlc.org/cgi-bin/ts.pl?index=429948&query=Christen&SEARCH=Search&opt=ANY


22 posted on 03/05/2009 8:27:52 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SolidWood

I have a sneaky feeling that someone is floating this to plant a seed against Palin in the future..


23 posted on 03/05/2009 8:28:30 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: techno

Did you really expect us all to run arounf like our hair was on fire from your posting this article?


24 posted on 03/05/2009 8:29:30 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: SolidWood

Planned Parenthood also doesn’t have anything on Christen
http://search.plannedparenthood.org/search?q=Christen&Image1.x=22&Image1.y=5&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&client=default_frontend&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&proxyreload=1&site=default_collection&proxyreload=1

Interesting considering the source claims she was on their board. I call shenanigans.


25 posted on 03/05/2009 8:29:39 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: techno

Pick the one that sucks least, and then do the best you can to get that system fixed as soon as possible. That’s horrible.


26 posted on 03/05/2009 8:29:54 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Abundy
The Missouri process for appointing judges forces the Governors hand.

Note that a previous justice appointed by Palin, who is pro-life, made it able to push the parental consent bill now.

It's clear that she favors pro-life judges, when possible.

27 posted on 03/05/2009 8:30:08 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: techno

What is her judicial philosophy?

That is much more relevant than her peronal views.


28 posted on 03/05/2009 8:31:45 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: mnehrling

Again I am a Sarah Palin supporter and not a troll. Would you rather sweep this issue under the rug so some scumbag can bring it up later on the campaign to discredit Sarah or drive a wedge between Sarah and her supporters or should it at least be dealt with head on and admit ‘it is what it is’?


29 posted on 03/05/2009 8:32:03 AM PST by techno
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To: techno
Sure she's walking a fine line and that's exactly the way the Obama thugs in Alaska want it. They're going to do everything they can to bring her down in 2010 if she decides to seek re-election. They better hope she decides to run for governor in 2010 because if she doesn't, it means she's decided to go for the gold in 2012.

In the end I'm 100% convinced she came down on the side of what's best for Alaska. I trust her and she's yet to challenge my trust. JMO.

30 posted on 03/05/2009 8:32:09 AM PST by Al B.
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To: techno

So Techno, based on what was found on this thread, where do you get that she was on the board of Planned Parenthood in Alaska?


31 posted on 03/05/2009 8:32:18 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mnehrling

Smells a lot like the BS about Palin being a Buchananite and Alaska Indepedence Party member.


32 posted on 03/05/2009 8:32:42 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: techno

If you got the info that she was on Planned Parenthood’s board from another source, then you aren’t planting the seed. Why take it personal?


33 posted on 03/05/2009 8:33:12 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mnehrling

Good post. My thoughts to the T.


34 posted on 03/05/2009 8:33:30 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: Dead Corpse

Keep reading, there is way more to this story...


35 posted on 03/05/2009 8:34:09 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mnehrling

From www.conservatives4palin.com


36 posted on 03/05/2009 8:34:28 AM PST by techno
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To: mnehrling
The ADN claims this without source.

But read the important part (from ADN):

Christen's application included her membership in several charitable groups, including some from her past, but did not mention that she was on the board of Planned Parenthood in the mid-1990s. The organization, which didn't provide abortions in Alaska until 2003, is now on the opposite side of a Palin-supported bill to require girls under 17 to get parental consent for an abortion.

So even IF she was on PP, which remains to be proven, she wasn't neccesairly pro-choice.

37 posted on 03/05/2009 8:35:46 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: Retired Greyhound; techno; Al B.; Dead Corpse

See my post #37.


38 posted on 03/05/2009 8:36:46 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: mnehrling

There always is. I was agreeing with your post, not the OP’s btw...


39 posted on 03/05/2009 8:36:46 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: SolidWood

Good job. There is usually more to a story than meets the eye.


40 posted on 03/05/2009 8:38:04 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: SolidWood

Sounds like a “lesser of two” kind of thing. Gov. Palin looks like she choose the best she could.


41 posted on 03/05/2009 8:38:38 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: techno; All

That site is quoting Alaska Daily News that is quoting a claim made by the head of the Alaska Family Council. The head of the head of the Alaska Family Council, according to that article was encouraging Palin to pick Smith- this makes no sense for a so-called pro-life group group as it seems Smith is far more pro-abortion.

I am going to do some digging, but I bet this Alaska Family Council isn’t who they claim to be if they where supporting Smith.

Either way, the accusation isn’t a direct reference that she was on the board, only that the Alaska Family Council claims she was on the board..

Something fishy is going on here..


42 posted on 03/05/2009 8:39:05 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: techno

The abortion issue is pretty much going to be decided by the future of our culture. Even if you overturn Roe and the cases leading up to it, which should happen for reasons of sound jurisprudence, and put the question back before Congress where it belongs, do you doubt that abortion would be as or more available than it is right now? It’s become ingrained as acceptable. It’s a generational project. On the other hand, environmental regulation/economic strangulation is very much up for grabs and has a HUGE impact on Alaska’s economic future. I’m not a huge Palin booster, but she looked at the needs of her state and made the smartest choice between two evils. Bravo.


43 posted on 03/05/2009 8:39:56 AM PST by Trod Upon (Mao was a community organizer, too.)
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To: techno
Click on the link at post #10. Gov Palin had no choice. Sarah Palin is a genuine and true ally of the unborn.
Proviso: when something appears unusual or misplaced regrading Sarah Palin, odds are that it is; often done purposely and nefariously .


SarahPac

44 posted on 03/05/2009 8:40:11 AM PST by jla
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To: mnehrling

Have you read my post 37? Some important info there.


45 posted on 03/05/2009 8:40:41 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: SolidWood

Ping 42.. interesting find.. apparently the so called ‘pro life’ group that was making these statements supported Smith- who is far, far to the left and more pro abortion than her..

This is very fishy..


46 posted on 03/05/2009 8:41:19 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mnehrling

I’d like to know who funds the “Alaska Family Council”, could be some of the oil and gas interests that don’t like Sarah because, while she’s pro energy, she isn’t owned by the interests.


47 posted on 03/05/2009 8:44:16 AM PST by NeoCaveman (hey who ordered the trillion dollar crap sandwich? FUBO. Ugly and incendiary entertainer fan.)
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To: NeoCaveman; techno

Ping 48- I’m posting my findings in it’s own thread..


49 posted on 03/05/2009 8:46:08 AM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mnehrling
The family council plea, from group president Jim Minnery, said Smith was "more conservative" and that Christen would be "another activist on the Court." In an interview, Minnery said that was the "general consensus" but he had no specifics.

Very fishy! Especially since Smith is the more liberal one.

50 posted on 03/05/2009 8:46:16 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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