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How Much Ammo Do You Need?
The Survivalist Blog ^ | 1 March, 2009 | Yukon Mike

Posted on 03/07/2009 1:12:42 AM PST by marktwain

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To: nathanbedford
"I'm curious, at just how long does the author think game will abound with millions of people trying to sustain themselves on the stock?"

If you have been to the range lately, you probably have noticed that we are no longer a nation of marksmen! Most of the ammo that is used in the course of a hunting season ends up in trees or in the dirt so the game may last a little longer than projected.

21 posted on 03/07/2009 5:23:34 AM PST by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: Cindy

You said — “Answer: It depends if you can hit the target on the first try or the 100th try.”

Well, if it’s the Chinese or the Muslims who are the targets, who are “coming to get you” — then you’re gonna need a lot of ammo, even if you hit them on the first shot... LOL...


22 posted on 03/07/2009 5:24:59 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: ccmay
"We maintain large-scale agriculture, or hundreds of millions of people starve to death, it's that simple."

It has been shown that damn near every famine in the 20th century was man made. Two examples; Ukraine in the 1930s and Bangladesh in the 70s.

23 posted on 03/07/2009 5:27:13 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: james500

Ahhh..., the good ole Heartland...


24 posted on 03/07/2009 5:27:45 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: marktwain

The amount of ammo a person needs is the amount they don’t blab about on the internet for all the intelligence agencies and gun grabbers to see.


25 posted on 03/07/2009 5:34:27 AM PST by America2012
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To: james500

South central Iowa/North Central Missouri is a great area. Low, stable rural based population, two hours away from any city of size, rolling hills for terrain, lots of wooded areas to hide, good soil for growing, game aplenty. Unionville/Centerville region is a phenomenal place if you had to survive.


26 posted on 03/07/2009 5:36:11 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: marktwain

Another thing that is vitally important is consolidation of physical assets (i.e., find some people with whom you share a deep trust and prepare TOGETHER for the SHTF eventuality: Not only is there safety in numbers, but no one person has all the skills necessary for prolonged survival; thus it is essential that one forge a core group of talented [i.e., useful] people and work together. The number need not exceed 10 - 12 people).


27 posted on 03/07/2009 5:38:15 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: james500
That is one of the most useless maps I've ever seen. Reporting populations by counties is comparing apples and oranges. Counties out West are far larger in area than in the East.

Look at northern Arizona where you have four dark-red counties (Mohave, Coconino, Yavapai, and Navajo.) If our counties were the size of those in the East, you'd have five tiny red spots encompassing the cities of Kingman, Prescott, Flagstaff, Holbrook, and Show Low-Pinetop-Lakeside. Most of the rest would be white empty space like you see in the Great Plains, spread over an area almost as large as New England.

The same is true of the southern counties in Arizona, and many of the large counties of New Mexico, Nevada, and even California.

-ccm

28 posted on 03/07/2009 5:40:01 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay
cap-and-ball muzzle loading shotguns

I just noticed this. A better description would be "percussion muzzle-loading shotguns".

29 posted on 03/07/2009 5:42:36 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay
"If the people of this country had to live by subsistence hunting, every animal within our borders would be gone in six months or less."

Over 80% of the people in this country live in cities. They (mostly) have no guns or the ability to use them. If the SHTF they will sit in their dwellings and wait for the government (0bama) to rescue them. Most of them will be dead withen 7 days. The survivors, ie: those who DO have guns, will then go out into the country to try to survive by stealing from those that live in the country. They will be in for a rude awakening when they discover that their intended victims, unlike their urban counterparts, actually have firearms and know how to use them.

After the remaining city dwellers are dispatched there will be plenty of game for the country folk. Those that live in the suburbs and have a place to go need to get out as soon as the SHTF. The hard part will be knowing when that is.

30 posted on 03/07/2009 5:47:36 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: Pelagius of Asturias
I once read of a study done in the 1990s concerning Phoenix, Arizona and it was postuated that if not for air conditioning, the Phoenix population would be less than 500,000.

My family lived in Phoenix before the days of air conditioning. People who had to stay there for the summer slept on their porches, surrounded by wet bedsheets. Even a 100+ degree temperature can be remarkably comfortable after dark in the bone-dry desert, if you have evaporative cooling and a pool.

Often, the wife and kids were sent to San Diego or to a cabin in the high northern part of the state for the summer, while the men remained in town to tend to business and joined their families on weekends. A few hardy prostitutes did a roaring business during the week.

-ccm

31 posted on 03/07/2009 5:49:46 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: America2012
The amount of ammo a person needs is the amount they don’t blab about on the internet for all the intelligence agencies and gun grabbers to see.

Well said. As a matter of fact, I'm off to the range to shoot my last box of .45 ACP this very day.

-ccm

32 posted on 03/07/2009 5:51:45 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay

Good analysis, Ccmay.

Examples:

Eddy County New Mexico - population about 45,000, area about 4000 square miles.

Anderson County Tennessee - population about 45,000, area about 450 square miles.


33 posted on 03/07/2009 5:55:22 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: ccmay

I don’t have any.


34 posted on 03/07/2009 5:56:25 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Free Vulcan

A good site for finding properties across the U.S.:

http://www.landwatch.com/


35 posted on 03/07/2009 5:57:26 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: Jaxter
They will be in for a rude awakening when they discover that their intended victims, unlike their urban counterparts, actually have firearms and know how to use them.

And the knowledge of the terrain. It is sad that I have considered such things as choke points, where crossfires from above will be horrific, but then again, I'm not a person who wanted to see society in pieces; I didn't want "change"...

36 posted on 03/07/2009 6:09:42 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: All

I think I have found a use for empty three liter soda bottles - water storage. I now have quite a collection.

Good idea?


37 posted on 03/07/2009 6:19:28 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: marktwain
Unfortunately, I lost all my weapons in a tragic boating accident. Just out of curiosity, I was perusing the internet ammo sources and noticed a lack of available Winchester Q3131, Winchester RA45T and Federal LE low recoil 00 buck.
38 posted on 03/07/2009 6:22:38 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: marktwain

How much? As much as you can buy and store.


39 posted on 03/07/2009 6:27:10 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama voters, your 401 K's are dead. Now what?)
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To: All

I hope everyone knows that US military (steel) ammo boxes have rubber gaskets in the lids. I took mine (empty) and did a backyard garden hose test - no leaks.

If the gasket is missing don’t buy it,


40 posted on 03/07/2009 6:37:30 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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