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A Further Word (EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY)
David Wilkerson Today ^ | Monday, March 9, 2009 | David Wilkerson

Posted on 03/09/2009 8:29:02 AM PDT by Perseverando

“If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do?”

Recently I felt compelled to send out an URGENT message warning of an impending great calamity — such that will cause even God’s elect to tremble.

One Bishop asked, “Is there no further word: How should the righteous respond to such a word?”

I can only answer by sharing what the Holy Spirit is speaking to my own heart and what I am to do. I shared that I was led in a practical way to lay aside a month’s supply of food — because I have witnessed the panic in the wake of terrorism. That has to be a personal word for every individual.

This is what I hear the Holy Spirit speaking to my heart concerning my own spiritual response to impending calamity. It is simply this —STAND STILL AND SEE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.

“And Moses said to the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which he will show you today…The Lord shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace” (Exodus 14:13-14).

This is the attitude of faith in the face of calamity. What could Israel do on the brink of the Red Sea? Pharaoh’s army is pressing in, mountains are on both sides, and there is an impossible sea ahead. The flesh cries, “Do something!”

The flesh cries hopelessness. Can God’s people dry up the sea? Level a mountain? Fight a great army without having weapons? They are in what appears to be a dreadful, frightening situation. God’s people tremble — and in this hour of trembling comes a word from God. In essence:

(Excerpt) Read more at davidwilkersontoday.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: calamity; christian; davidwilkerson; economy; judgement; newyork
This is a follow up and clarification by David Wilkerson on his March 7th message on his blog titled "Urgent Message." According to the blog he was . . "compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message to all on our mailing list, and to friends and to bishops we have met all over the world."

Since it was sent to his mailing list, friends and bishops, who I'm sure are probably 99% Christian, it would appear the message doesn't apply to non-Christians. That said, I hope this post doesn't degenerate into a "Is there really a God?" discussion.

History:

The article was originally picked up by WorldNetDaily, then posted and discussed on FreeRepublic under the title of "Famed pastor predicts imminent catastrophe" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2201777/posts

1 posted on 03/09/2009 8:29:02 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

No matter the circumstances, keeping a month of durable foodstuffs in supply is a good idea. So is a pistol.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 8:32:17 AM PDT by dadgum (Tired Of Being A Pariah)
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To: Perseverando

Thank you for posting. Definitely an important message for Christians in America, from a highly credible source.


3 posted on 03/09/2009 8:32:47 AM PDT by BerkeleyRefugee
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To: Perseverando

So what is Wilkerson’s history of predictions and the fulfillment of those predictions?


4 posted on 03/09/2009 8:35:44 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

That’s what I was wondering; I’ve never heard of this guy.


5 posted on 03/09/2009 8:38:07 AM PDT by glide625
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To: BerkeleyRefugee

About David Wilkerson

http://www.worldchallenge.org/about_david_wilkerson

David Wilkerson is the Founding Pastor of Times Square Church in New York City. He was called to New York in 1958 to minister to gang members and drug addicts, as told in the best-selling book, The Cross and the Switchblade.

In 1987, David Wilkerson returned to “the crossroads of the world” to establish Times Square Church. Since then, has has faithfully led this congregation, delivering powerful biblical messages that encourage righteous living and complete reliance on God.

David Wilkerson has a strong burden to encourage and strengthen pastors throughout the world. Since 1999, he has been travelling around the globe holding conferences for Christian ministers.


Let me repost the info to the previous article and the link and see if it works this time.

“Famed pastor predicts imminent catastrophe” - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2201777/posts


6 posted on 03/09/2009 8:38:34 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Was it Billy Graham who once said,”If God doesn’t judge America, then he owes an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah.”


7 posted on 03/09/2009 8:40:08 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: topcat54; Dr. Eckleburg

Do you want to get in on this Wilkerson action?


8 posted on 03/09/2009 8:40:55 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Perseverando

I have been thinking lately about how God feels about our approaching “blind leap of Faith” (bad choice of words) into a global government. This is where the arrogant Obozo wants to take us. Those of us who take the Bible serious, know that eventually it will happen. It is written there.

The question in my mind is, Is it now time? Or will God frustrate this like he did at the Tower of Babel.

Have also though about the “rapture of the Church” in modern terms. Will it happen when we are nuked and is that the the method we meet him in the sky?

These are troubling times, but Wilkerson is correct we must always remember God is ultimately in charge, not man.

Pray for our nation and the believers.


9 posted on 03/09/2009 8:42:41 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Perseverando

And if his prophecy is proved to be false, will the OT admonition to stone a false prophet be carried out?


10 posted on 03/09/2009 8:42:49 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: liege

I remember that. It’s a sobering thought.


11 posted on 03/09/2009 8:43:21 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: mnehrling

“So what is Wilkerson’s history of predictions and the fulfillment of those predictions?”

He doesn’t have one (a history); he’s NOT in the habit of making them—that’s what makes this more noteworthy!


12 posted on 03/09/2009 8:47:38 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: LiteKeeper
And if his prophecy is proved to be false, will the OT admonition to stone a false prophet be carried out?

Relax, he has stated and denies that he's a prophet, so that doesn't apply.

Also you can stop picking up the rocks. Oh, and go to the back of the line of those waiting to cast the first stone.

13 posted on 03/09/2009 8:51:22 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Piper’s Response to David Wilkerson.

http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1670_Testing_David_Wilkersons_Prophecy/


14 posted on 03/09/2009 8:53:38 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Perseverando; All

For the skeptics:

This man is saying nothing different than a lot of us have been “predicting” here; that is: we may be heading for a violent breakdown of society in the near future. Many here have said to be wary of this Summer. That he had a revelation saying much the same is confirmation of our fears.

BTW, he’s talking about worldwide RIOTS; NOT BOMBS!


15 posted on 03/09/2009 8:57:13 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: Perseverando

Freakin’ Duh. Where were these “prophets” before 9/11? That would have been a useful warning. Meanwhile, I’ve been preparing for EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY ever since. Seems kind of inevitable in the Brave New World...


16 posted on 03/09/2009 9:02:51 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: jonno
Piper’s Response to David Wilkerson.

Thanks for the link. I'm not familiar with Piper, but I appreciate his thoughtful comments. As for mention of Y2K preparations, if I remember correctly, there was a lot of advice from various governmental agencies. Weren't there a lot of denials for vacation requests for federal, state & local law enforcement personnel due to uncertainty about what Y2K would bring?

It wasn't just the "conspiracy theorists" who were concerned about Y2K.

17 posted on 03/09/2009 9:06:37 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: mnehrling

Good question. I used to attend his church and have looked into this and my response would be “Mixed.”

He apparently called the “Black Monday” crash in 1987, shortly beforehand, but I cannot absolutely confirm this.

He has been consistently predicting imminent financial doom and gloom (as a result of God’s judgment on America for turning from Him) for over 20 years. I suppose, given the current financial situation, you could say he was right.

Several years ago, I believe around 1995 or 1996, he stated that he believed the “1,000 fires” he saw in his vision could be coming to NYC within a year. They did not, of course. He did say “could” as opposed to “would”, but the “could” seemed to sound a lot like a “would”.

He is careful not to call himself a “prophet” (he often says “one of many watchmen”), yet his predictions, based upon supposed visions or words from God or leading of the Holy Spirit, seem clearly to be prophecies.

His predictions, while bold, always seem to be vague enough in time frame so that they couldn’t definitively be labeled “false”. However, the urgency with which he has made these pronouncements often strongly implied that the doom was right around the corner.

His doctrine used to be generally sound, biblical Pentecostal. He strongly rejected the Word of Faith Health and Wealth Gospel, and the bizarre “Holy Laughter” and Brownsville “Revival” that swept through Pentecostal and Charismatic churches in the late 1990s.

However, in more recent years, he made trip to the UK where he shared pulpits with some of the heretics who had pushed these false movements and blasted sound Pentecostal preachers who warned him against this.

After that, his doctrine seemed to become very inconsistent. One week his preaching would be sound and the next questionable, or outright unsound.

I believe he is a sincere man, but the last time I checked, he seemed to be drifting from sound doctrine.

A mixed record is OK for a financial pundit, but by biblical standards for prophecy, totally unacceptable.

That doesn’t mean I’m not going to stock up on bottled water and canned goods though. :)


18 posted on 03/09/2009 9:19:55 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
Looks like Piper already said it best:
But my own effort to be discerning says: Stick with the Bible, David. It is scary enough. And it is absolutely true. And your credibility will never fall.
One of the things that sticking with the Bible does is to keep you from being a sensationalist predictor of coming events. So many folks tend in this direction, and so many Christians believe them without batting an eye. Most of popular Christianity is an exercise in falsely reading the tea leaves of the day. Christians have a natural faithfulness that makes them want to believe these guys. Anyone who claims to be from God and have His message must be honest, right? Wrong. That is why there are so many warnings throughout the NT about this sort of spiritual naiveté.

Bottom line, nobody is getting a personal “word from the Lord” about what is going to happen tomorrow.

19 posted on 03/09/2009 9:21:02 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

>>>He doesn’t have one (a history); he’s NOT in the habit of making them—that’s what makes this more noteworthy!<<<

That is not really the case. I attended his church for about 5 years, and he frequently made predicitons, most of them about financial meltdown.

He has been making prediction (prophecies?) for about 30 years. Some have seemingly come to pass, others...not so much.


20 posted on 03/09/2009 9:26:23 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: meowmeow
Freakin’ Duh. Where were these “prophets” before 9/11? That would have been a useful warning.

You may be confusing your neighborhood "fortune teller" with prophets.

Once again, David Wilkerson is not a prophet, so we're not talking about him.

Prophets (of God) in the Old Testment only speak what God gives them to speak. No more, no less. If they lied, they died (stoning).

I understand how you feel. I guess we all just want someone to tell us what we have to do to make it better. Just as long as he's not a Christian preacher. Right?

21 posted on 03/09/2009 9:27:38 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
Govt. agencies were also involved in contingency planning and preparations as well. Y2K has largely been written off by the general public (and Piper) as an expensive hoax, simply because they were spared its effects through the expenditure of billions of dollars world wide by govt. and private sector initiatives. Piper's rejection of Wilkerson is based upon 1). mistaken belief that Y2K was a hoax; 2). Intuition ("feel")as regards his interpretation of scripture. I think most of us will agree that the current state of affairs is unsustainable; that a breakdown is long overdue; that you don't have to be particularly religious to believe as Wilkerson does, that the Good Lord is about to provide us with a demonstration of his power..."Stand by on this frequency for an important message."
22 posted on 03/09/2009 9:28:46 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Perseverando

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...it is not a duck? All denials to the contrary...he is still predicting the future!


23 posted on 03/09/2009 9:37:39 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Perseverando

At the risk of being called a nut I will point out that this summer NASA is planning to fire two missiles into the Moon. It is called the LCROSS mission. Personally I do not view NASA as having a great track record of success nor do I feel comfortable with this plan. Back during one of the Apollo missions they had hit the moon in a similar fashion and it was reported that the Moon wobbled and rang like a gong for over three hours. Now they want to double down and hit twice in one of the poles of the Moon.

If this Pastor is having a real premonition then could it be that this is what he is sensing?


24 posted on 03/09/2009 9:38:03 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: PowderMonkey

Thanks for your intelligent insightful comments.

It seems to me that far too many people mistake God for Santa Claus and that Santa has a very short list of bad little boys and girls. Hey, when was the last time any American children that we know of got a lump of coal for Christmas and not a ton of toys?

50,000,000 abortions in the U.S. since 1973? Far too many people think that God should be thanking them for helping to keep children from growing up underpriviledged, or possibly even abused.


25 posted on 03/09/2009 9:43:29 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
You may be confusing your neighborhood "fortune teller" with prophets.

"Word of the Lord," prophecies, fortune telling...I'm still waiting for Pat Robertson's catastrophic revelations that were supposed to happen in 2006, then 2007. Many a Christian preacher has gotten a bit of fame and morphed into an attention whore.

I trust my Bible and a few men of the faith who have proved to be reliable - as the Scriptures direct. Anyone who says God told him that bad things are going to happen either lives under a rock or wants attention.

26 posted on 03/09/2009 9:45:45 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: LiteKeeper
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...it is not a duck? All denials to the contrary...he is still predicting the future!

In his 9 March column, he wrote:
"I can only answer by sharing what the Holy Spirit is speaking to my own heart and what I am to do. I shared that I was led in a practical way to lay aside a month’s supply of food — because I have witnessed the panic in the wake of terrorism. That has to be a personal word for every individual."

His church is in New York City. He was there during the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center Towers. I suspect that's why he believes in putting aside food, particularly in light of the severity of the "calamity" that ". . the Holy Spirit is speaking to my heart and what I am to do." (His statement.)

28 posted on 03/09/2009 9:55:19 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: dadgum

Food is not really a critical issue as long as we’re talking about a short term/localzed disruption. Most American adults have plenty of stored fat and can live for three to four weeks without consuming any food whatsoever. Available food should be allocated to children, the elderly, and the sick first; then, to adults who are doing hard physical labor; then to other adults. The canned goods in your pantry right now are likely enough to feed your kids for a month or more. It’s important to make sure your kids get a complete protein in every meal (meat, tofu, cheese, or a mixture of beans AND corn) plus the necessary vitamins.

For stockpiling, a couple of Sterilte tubs full of dried beef, dried milk, rice, and canned vegetables will suffice. Beef Jerky + canned veg + dried milk + rice will sustain life for a long time. You should also lay in some multivitamins to compensante for the unbalanced diet you may have to eat.

Water is the critical need. Don’t stockpile water itself until the crisis actually comes; it’s too heavy and hard to store. Instead, make sure you have plenty of plain, unscented bleach on hand, along with a water filter of some sort.Also, it’s aa good idea to keep on hand at all times a selection of CLEAR (transparent) plastic soda bottles (two liter capacity each). Clean these with bleach and water, then cap and store them empty. These bottles can be filled with FILTERED water and capped; when left in direct sunlight for an hour or two, the water in the bottles will be sterilized by solar UV rays, becoming suitable for drinking or cooking.

And you can never have enough can openers, toliet paper, matches, candles, and firewood.

As for firearms — I keep on hand a .22 Short squirrel rifle for small game and a 12-ga shotgun for self-defense. You’re the best judge of your own needs.


29 posted on 03/09/2009 10:45:28 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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