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HAPPENING TODAY: Terrorist informant links Ayers and wife to murder of policeman.
IHateTheMedia.com ^ | 03/12/09

Posted on 03/12/2009 8:37:06 AM PDT by slomark

EXCERPT:

More bad news for unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers and his equally-unrepentant wife Bernadette Dorhn.

Larry Grathwohl was an FBI informant who infiltrated Ayer’s Weather Underground terrorist group in the 1970s. He’s holding a press conference in San Francisco today to talk about things Ayers and Dohrn would rather keep buried in the past.

Here’s part of Grathwohl’s pre-released opening statement:

“The San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing occurred on February 16, 1970, when a pipe bomb filled with shrapnel detonated on the ledge of a window at the San Francisco Police Department’s Golden Gate Park station. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, ....

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: ayers; ayersobamaconnection; billayers; copkills; democrats; dohrn; domesticterrorism; murder; obamaayersconnection; policeman; policeunion; weatherunderground; williamayers
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Let's see if this makes news today in the MSM.
1 posted on 03/12/2009 8:37:07 AM PDT by slomark
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To: slomark

Wasn’t her first name Bernardine?


2 posted on 03/12/2009 8:38:49 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (There are no points for second place.)
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To: slomark

There is no statute of limitations on murder.


3 posted on 03/12/2009 8:42:22 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: slomark

Fox news seems to be showing it’s value as of late at least. I’m seeing stuff they report burried or un-reported on CNN.


4 posted on 03/12/2009 8:42:46 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: WayneS

“There is no statute of limitations on murder.”

ABSOLUTELY!!!


5 posted on 03/12/2009 8:44:00 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: slomark
From the article;

“No one was ever charged with the crime although six years the FBI was close to indicting Ayers wife and fellow terrorist Bernardine Dohrn around six years ago.”

?????????

6 posted on 03/12/2009 8:44:03 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court house.....................America's Axis of Evil!)
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To: slomark
I don't suppose SOMEONE will be saying:

"That's not the Bill Ayers I knew!",

sometime in the near future, will they?

7 posted on 03/12/2009 8:44:37 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

yep


8 posted on 03/12/2009 8:44:48 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception asterisk administration)
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To: slomark

LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY, PLEASE

EXPOSE SUCH EVILS VERY VIVIDLY.

WAKE EVERYONE WAKE-ABLE UP.

Cause them to fall in the pit they have dug.

In Jesus’ Name.


9 posted on 03/12/2009 8:47:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: slomark

—fyi, Google search “guilty as hell, free as a bird”—


10 posted on 03/12/2009 8:48:50 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Quix

Hmmm, not really a Christian prayer.


11 posted on 03/12/2009 8:49:31 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
Wasn’t her first name Bernardine?

Yes, and it still is..

12 posted on 03/12/2009 8:49:40 AM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: slomark

Shout it from the roof tops..

Obama And Ayers have been joined at the hip since 1982!!!


13 posted on 03/12/2009 8:51:04 AM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: WayneS

‘I don’t suppose SOMEONE will be saying:
“That’s not the Bill Ayers I knew!”,

sometime in the near future, will they?’

Crank up the Obambi bus. Another one under the wheels!


14 posted on 03/12/2009 8:51:25 AM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: Quix

Amen


15 posted on 03/12/2009 8:55:04 AM PDT by USA means Freedom
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To: slomark
The info I've been wanting this FBI informant to release is his conversation with the WU when they were asked by him what they would do if they succeeded in overthrowing the government. Their answer was,( Bill was there at the mtg), that the US would be divided between the USSR, China, Cuba, and Viet Nam. Gulags would be built in the Southwest and probably 25 million Americans would be murdered there that wouldn't conform to the revolution. Ayres was portrayed as a card burning draft dodger instead of the mass murderer he was. Remember they were trained in Cuba in the image of the murderer “Che”.

Nailing him with one murder would be a good start, but he is much bigger than a murderer to me. He is a terrorist on the order of Osama.

16 posted on 03/12/2009 8:55:22 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: USA means Freedom

Obama’s Ghost writer


17 posted on 03/12/2009 8:56:14 AM PDT by USA means Freedom
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To: Free Descendant
..."not really a Christian prayer."....

Try reading your Bible. Psalms would be a good start.

18 posted on 03/12/2009 8:57:09 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Osama is smarter and tougher.

Bill Ayers is, and always has been, a pussy.

But, yes, both are evil terrorists. Osama is, at least, a man (of sorts).


19 posted on 03/12/2009 8:57:40 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: RebelTXRose; WayneS
“There is no statute of limitations on murder.”

I did not know they were never indicted. I thought they went to trial and got the case thrown out on some technicality.

Into the slam with these vermin!

20 posted on 03/12/2009 8:59:33 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: slomark

It’s the front page (NY Post style) of the San Francisco Examiner this morning. I’m sure the Chronicle has it buried on page E-26.


21 posted on 03/12/2009 8:59:46 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: MeanWestTexan
...." Osama is, at least, a man".....

Give me 10 minutes with Osama and a pair of needle nose pliers, and I'll give you squealing like a girl.

22 posted on 03/12/2009 9:00:54 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

OK and you start with Matthew and we’ll meet back here later to discuss it over tea.


23 posted on 03/12/2009 9:01:24 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: Quix

Amen.


24 posted on 03/12/2009 9:01:49 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: USA means Freedom

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

THX FOR PRAYING IN AGREEMENT.


25 posted on 03/12/2009 9:02:14 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Free Descendant

HOW SO???


26 posted on 03/12/2009 9:02:48 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Free Descendant

I assume you’ve read the Psalms?


27 posted on 03/12/2009 9:03:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: chuckles

“Give me 10 minutes with Osama and a pair of needle nose pliers, and I’ll give you squealing like a girl.”

Sure. Let me threaten to take away Bill Ayers’ soy latte and I’ll give you squealing like a girl.


28 posted on 03/12/2009 9:06:32 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Free Descendant

I assume you’ve read the Psalms?

Have you read these verses?

Jeremiah 7:16
“So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you.

Jeremiah 11:14
“Do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them, because I will not listen when they call to me in the time of their distress.

Jeremiah 14:11
Then the LORD said to me, “Do not pray for the well-being of this people.


29 posted on 03/12/2009 9:09:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lee'sGhost

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

THX FOR PRAYING IN AGREEMENT.


30 posted on 03/12/2009 9:11:12 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

The old testament teaches us the law and shows us how we fall short. The new testament teaches us the plan to rectify it. Any old testament condemnation by anyone other than God completely misses the point of the new testament in my my humble opinion.

Don’t get me wrong I agree with the sentiment of the prayer personally it’s just in my opinion, as Christians, we should pray for salvation for Ayers not for him to fall into the pit he has dug and so richly deserves. Compared to the glory of God none of us deserve any better.


31 posted on 03/12/2009 9:12:21 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: Free Descendant
Already read it from cover to cover more than a couple of times. David, you remember the man after God's own heart, prayed many times about his enemies. God uses his enemies in various ways for His purposes. Sometimes to chastise His children, and others to be cannon fodder for His children. If you cannot pray for the defeat of your enemies, then why pray for anything? Maybe we should pray for the defeat of our country so God's enemies should prosper? Bill Ayres is a godless, communist, atheist. You can pray for his salvation if you wish, but not for his victory over God's people. I pray for the salvation of Obama, but I also pray our country can survive long enough for his defeat. These are not cross purposes.
32 posted on 03/12/2009 9:13:48 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: slomark

So Obiebamma my man, you now be associated with an alleged murderer!!!! Obie, Obie, tell me when its all gonna stop!!

Would that be AFTER you wreck the country OR just after we find your not legaly eligible to be POTUS.

And Billy, say, Billy Ayres-—your chickens are coming home to ROOOOOSSSSSTTT!!!


33 posted on 03/12/2009 9:15:35 AM PDT by ScareyFast63
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To: Free Descendant

I have no quibble with folks who feel led to pray for Ayers’ Salvation.

That’s not the brief I feel from The Lord re Ayers.

If it’s yours, by all means, help yourself.

Certainly we all deserve the worst punishment available for rebellion against God.

That’s not the issue.

There are those who have sold out to satan lock stock and eternity.

I find NO evidence in either Testament that we are to contend for their Salvation.

Of course, it is QUITE HAZARDOUS TO ASSUME a particular individual fits that category.

I sometimes have impressions from The Lord on that score but I mostly leave that to Him to sort out in His way and time.

However, when I feel led to pray a particular way as above, I do so.

If others feel led to pray for Shrillery, OThuga and/or Ayers’ Salvation—great.

On the whole, It’s not my brief.

I do sometimes preface prayers such as above with

LORD, IF IT’S POSSIBLE, PLEASE BRING THEM TO CONFESSION, REPENTANCE AND SALVATION IN CHRIST. IF IT’S NOT POSSIBLE . . .

On Ayers score . . . I have not the slightest impression in my spirit that there’s the slightest opening to Holy Spirit within or about Ayers . . . nor that there ever will be.

I hope you are not asserting that folks should pray for the Anti-Christ to be converted???

God help us!


34 posted on 03/12/2009 9:20:36 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: chuckles

What I got it from it is that we fall short of God and have been given infinite mercy by God so we are in no position to condemn others as Christians. That’s why I have trouble meshing my politics and Christianity. Christianity is too alien to the ways of this world.


35 posted on 03/12/2009 9:21:44 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: chuckles

Well put.

Some Christians seem to be of the opinion that God never sets his face like flint against some of His enemies—that they have crossed over the line.

Scripture says God will not always strive with man. Individuals can reach the point of no return and it is a very frightful point to reach.


36 posted on 03/12/2009 9:22:37 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Free Descendant

CNN is only good for ufo reports.


37 posted on 03/12/2009 9:23:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: chuckles

He’s a traitor and should hang in the public arena.


38 posted on 03/12/2009 9:31:00 AM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: Quix

No doubt, but it’s for God to condemn, not us. We can’t minimize our own sin. Nobody is any closer to infinite goodness than anyone else. God forgave us as much.

I’m so gratefull for God’s mercy on me and so I really take all that stuff about forgiveness and mercy seriously. I think it’s kind of important.


39 posted on 03/12/2009 9:31:52 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: Right Cal Gal
I sometimes post our stories over at Reddit.com, just to piss them all off. I was curious if there was some good, any good at all, in them, and they would not vote down this story. Who could root for a murder, right? Well, seriously, I figured they would vote it down, but I wanted to see their reaction. Yup, down votes so far. I can't wait to heard their explanations. I prodded them with this:

Now is is really sad (and expected). I think we are going to have to do a story on the crazy people at Reddit. Seriously, who can give down votes to a story that indicates that we might be able to convict a murderer, and one that says he would do it again? Are you so in love with your Obama that you have to vote down the story, because Obama launched his political career in Ayer's living room? You are a bunch of sad, sad, people.

40 posted on 03/12/2009 9:31:59 AM PDT by slomark (www.IHateThemedia.com)
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To: Free Descendant

It is dangerous to believe the God of the Old Testament is a differnt God in the New Testament. Jesus said He didn’t come to change the Law, but to fullfill it. Things are no different now than they were. Otherwise you may be tempted to believe the Old Testament is no longer valid. The same God that cried out “Forgive them for they know not what they do”, killed every man, woman, and child in Sodom, and indeed killed every living creature on the face of the earth in the Flood. Bill Ayres and his ilk was a warning to the US for our drug use, sexual imorality, and murder of babies in the womb. Our country’s culture made a huge shift from the ‘50’s to the ‘60’s and we couldn’t defeat our enemies in Viet Nam, our President resigned in dishonor, the streets were on fire, murder, imorality, and almost every measurable culture norm declined during this period. Ayres was just a tool to chastise God’s people during this period. Needless to say, we didn’t learn a thing. God will quell the rebellion against Him by His people. It’s just a matter of degree of how far we take it before God gives us His blessing again. Praying for our enemies fail is a prayer for God’s people to repent and call on His name and He will forgive and shower His blessing on His people. My fear is God’s people won’t recognise evil and reject it. Remember Ayres is unrepentant. He is the enemy of your people. Don’t be on the wrong side because you misunderstand Scriptures.


41 posted on 03/12/2009 9:32:28 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Free Descendant

However,

Christianity is not some 100% muddle-headed mush toward evil. Not by a long shot.

Compassion and redemption are God’s nature, preference and the reason for Christ’s coming and dying.

And He would certainly prefer that not any would perish.

However, it is clear from the New Testament that many will perish—in this New Testament era.

It is clear from the New Testament that individuals can reach the point of no return with God.

And at some point, The NEW TESTAMENT EXHORTS US to

shake the dust of our feet off against individuals even cities.

And that it will be worse for them than it was for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment.

God is also a consuming fire.

David is a good image of a New Testament Christian.

There will be a time when the lion will lay down with the lamb.

That is not now.

Between now and then, blood will flow as high as the horses’ bridals.

Between now and then, CHRISTIANS WILL BE CALLED UPON TO DO MIGHTY WORKS OF VALOR.

Yes, the weapons of our warfare are not carnal.
Yes, we are to have sacrificial compassion for the lost around us.

That does not mean we are to be stupid.

I for one would not have a great problem killing many evil doers in defense of my family, loved ones, folks God had placed under my care.

It would, if I had time to ponder it, grieve me to send anyone to hell. I know what great pain and suffering feel like. I wouldn’t really wish that on even Hitler.

However, God consigns a rather large number of folks to the consequences of their rebellions against Him.

It is foolishness to pretend that we are going to be more loving or more righteous in our judgments of others than God is.


42 posted on 03/12/2009 9:34:07 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: chuckles

No you misunderstand me. I’m not saying the Old Testament is invalid or that it describes a different God. The Old Testatment gives us God’s law. The new testatment shows us the plan to salvation despite our gross deficincies in following the law.

I completely agree with you that Bill Ayers is a piece of s***, I just can’t follow that up with “in Jesus Name” in good conscience. No biggie, just a comment in passing.


43 posted on 03/12/2009 9:36:36 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: Free Descendant

You have little clue about my relationship with forgiveness and mercy of God

to me and from me toward others.

Those who know me best with the greatest prophetic discernment describe me as the most forgiving and merciful person they’ve ever met.

God knows and He is the one I’m most concerned with pleasing.

He is the one who has worked that forgiveness and mercy into the fabric of my being.

However, God is not muddleheaded toward evil.


44 posted on 03/12/2009 9:36:41 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: chuckles

AMEN.

Though, paragraphs are our friends.

Most folks just don’t bother to read a mass of text.

And for some of us, it’s almost painful.


45 posted on 03/12/2009 9:38:24 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Osama is, at least, a man (of sorts).

I was about ready to flame you for that one ...

And then I looked again ...

Osama ...

I thought you were sayin' 0bama ...

46 posted on 03/12/2009 9:39:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I suppose the bloke doing knee duty on OThuga in the limo would agree he was a man . . . at least in terms of . . . equipment.


47 posted on 03/12/2009 9:40:36 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Understandable mistake.


48 posted on 03/12/2009 9:43:18 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: slomark

SF Chronicle link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/12/BATK16DHA4.DTL&hw=ayers&sn=001&sc=1000


49 posted on 03/12/2009 9:44:20 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: Right Cal Gal
I just went to the Chronicle's web site and they have a story. It said "This article appeared on page B - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle."

Is B-1 the Local News section, as it usually is in most papers? If so, local news????

Here is the article:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/12/BATK16DHA4.DTL

They are discrediting the source:

The union leveled the charge in a letter to a conservative organization lobbying for arrests in the case, but said it had not been in contact with investigators and had no new evidence related to the bombing, which killed Sgt. Brian McDonnell.

Instead, the union cited information from a former Bay Area resident, Larry Grathwohl, who is working with the conservative group, America's Survival Inc. of Maryland. Grathwohl asserts that he infiltrated the Weather Underground as an FBI informant and heard Ayers confess to a role in the bombing.

Ayers has denied any involvement in the bombing and, in January, called Grathwohl a "paid dishonest person" in an interview with The Chronicle.

The union's accusation surprised some authorities. According to a source familiar with the probe, who spoke on condition of anonymity, investigators have found no evidence that links the Weather Underground to the bombing.

and...

In addition to running America's Survival, Kincaid is the editor of a conservative organization called Accuracy in Media. He has attempted to link Obama to communism and socialism.

He also has views that might be considered extreme in San Francisco, such as calling for a "quit gay sex" campaign. "It appears that the homosexual lifestyle is as addictive as smoking," he once wrote.

Kincaid said he was not going after Ayers to hurt Obama, but added, "We are concerned that we now have an attorney general who was involved in Clinton administration pardons of members of the Weather Underground."

Oh, btw, "Ayers, an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, did not return a call Wednesday. Dohrn, a law professor at Northwestern University, was out of the country."

50 posted on 03/12/2009 9:44:28 AM PDT by slomark (www.IHateThemedia.com)
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