Posted on 03/26/2009 12:30:22 PM PDT by mainestategop
HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment
This bill is sitting in committee and I am not sure when it is going to hit the floor. One thing I do know is that very few of the Representatives have read it. As usual they will vote on this based on what someone else is saying. Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation. Devastating for everyday folks but great for factory farming ops like Monsanto, ADM, Sodexo and Tyson to name a few.
I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers. This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed. It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it. It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods. If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed. That's right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.
DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF. The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share. Post your observations and insights below. Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.
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Red flags I found and I am sure there are more...........
Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?
Last word...... Legislate religion and enforce gag orders on ministers on what can and can't be said in the pulpit, instituting regulations forcing people to rely soley on the government, control the money and the food. What is that called? It is on the tip of my tongue..........
I haven't read any of the Senate's version of the bill as I have been poring thru the House's version. Here is the link and I hope some of you can take a look and post your observations and insights below. One thing I am pretty sure of is that very few if any Senator's have actually read the legislation and when it comes up for a vote they will more than likely take someone else's word on how they should vote. The other thing I am pretty sure about is that the legislation was probably written by lobbyists and industry experts.
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If we’re talking about gubmint having control of health care and the banks because “they’re too important”, then I think food production ranks right up there with “too big to fail” enterprises. So, by applying Kenyan Economics, farming should be nationalized.
(”Kenyan Economics”...hey, that’s good! Remember—you heard it from randog first).
“It’s too late to work within the system, and it’s too soon to shoot the bastards.”
Claire Wolfe
I’m overwhelmed by reading a dozen calls to arms every day in these pages (and my email inbox). I honestly think that we’ve moved into a new level of the game, with different rules.
Calling and writing my reps doesn’t seem to have any effect on what the Socialists want to do with us. It’s time for us to wake up and get in the game as it really exists at this point in time.
Let them try to enforce it. I guess that's what President Obama’s Civilian Forces are for — to see if Grandma is growing tomatoes in her backyard. They'll haul the old dame in front of the local constabulary and send her to the pokey. She'll serve out the rest of her life for a tomato unless they shoot her on the spot for domestic terrorism. Problem with aging population solved. Change you can believe in.
They are for genocide. I’ve said it before. I also mentioned of the libertarians’ erring on drugs instead of the constitutional right to be your own grower of anything you wish that is wholesome as you judge it so.
The landscape is fairly crackling with static electricity,
just waiting for an incident to discharge.
The leftists HAVE to know it, too.
Ammo shelves are bare - as soon as any comes in, it’s snatched up. The people are armed to the teeth and MAD.
I’ll shoot any bastard that tries to stop me from growin my own food. I hear bureaucrats make good fertilizer.
Mercantilism and Socialism are evil, fraternal, Siamese twins, joined at the government.
Although the US has been considered a Capitalist country, we have had both Socialism and Mercantilism co-existing in the US for a long time. The Welfare State is a form of Socialism. Large corporations, in bed with politicians (usually Democrats) keeping smaller competitors out of the market, is Mercantilism.
Socialists and Mercantilists are happy to scratch each other's backs, though each would like to be in charge, ultimately.
We need to fight this bill. We also need to educate the ignorant who will say, “This is just those greedy Capitalists”. No, it's Mercantilism. It's not capitalism. The small farmer or gardener, who might sell a few food items, is the Capitalist.
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I am reading more and more about a preference to buy locally produced goods and services. Those who prefer to eat locally grown/produced food sometimes call themselves “localvores”. Thus there is a growing demand for local farmer’s markets.
Our local farmers market is indeed taking business away from the grocery stores. I can just bet that the big food growers are up-in-arms over this and wanting to squash the movement.
This combined with using food production as a way to control the masses is driving this bill. Not only does the government apparently not want us little people to eat healthy, but maybe eventually not eat at all.
Where is the GOP?
I buy a lot from the local veggie farm.
They can have my legume when they pry it from my cold, dead butter sauce!
DAMMIT!
Now I’ll NEVER be able to find a good garden tomato in the summer! They sure as heck don’t sell those in the grocery stores!
Please get a grip on yourself. IF there is anything in this bill that we need to be seriously concerned about, you are not doing the cause any favor by making preposterous scare claims. Obviously no legislation is going to outlaw growing tomatoes in your backyard for your personal and family consumption. If you think this draft legislation says that, then you don't know anything about how to read legislation and consider the defined terms used therein (which are often defined in other, already existing laws).
I won't be paying any attention to this issue until I see it brought up by someone who is discussing it rationally. Stuff like this post goes in the same file as the outlandish global warming scare claims.
Sharing cocktails at the club with the writers of this bill, tut-tutting about us conservative plebs.
Hoping you don't see them...
Damn! I was hoping that Global Warming would increase my suburban harvest, but now I’ll be a criminal.
Well said.
Politicians do make good fertilizer. They are full of crap.
It affects them too ; )
They can pry my tomatoes out of my cold dead hand...oh wait,nevermind...my huge and crazy German Shepherd would have had the trespassers for dinner by then.
We all know what Obama is but do we have a list that shows who are socialists or communists in the Congress?
Such bills introduced has to be written by socialists or communists!
We need to identify these bastards and get them out of there!!!
We should have been doing that all along!
But how will they use it without the overwhelming iron fist of the obammunists coming down?
mene mene teckel upharsin
Bookmarked for later reference on what is outlandish.
The trip wire could be tripped at anytime, or anywhere and everyone will need to be prepared to fight for your lives, your freedom, your very Country! Unless you personally decide right now, whether to fight or go along with the Government, you will be bagged and tagged when the fight starts because it will be too late to make up your mind at that point!
“criminalizing organic farming”
Somehow I just can’t see libs agreeing with this.
I think most everyone is waiting for the “trigger”.
“The shot heard round the world, II”
HA!
An excellent point!
Even the far left greenies would be in an uproar about this. They are big into growing their own organic food. It’ll never happen.
I’m reading through it and I can’t find where a person growing food in their back yard would NOT be considered either a “CATEGORY 4 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT” or a “FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY” requiring registration, oversight, inspections, etc etc.
“I hear bureaucrats make good fertilizer.”
Compost them first. Using pure raw crap isn’t good for the crops.
Amen! Blow them through a wood chipper first!
Obama is making heap big mistake here. He’s really pissing off the wrong people. The health food and organic food and all-natural movements represent an enormous lobby these days and they MOSTLY tend to be loyal leftys otherwise.
This would really bite into his “base.”
I’m trying to find the part about the private garden.
i see this smacks of big busincess controlling food, but I need to show this to libs and the exact spot where it prohibits pribate gardening.
I have looked and cannot find it.
I’m going to plant tomatoes just for spite. If they arrest me I’ll throw tomatoes at the thugs hired to enforce an illegal law.
Went out to buy a few bags of 10-10-10 today. HOLY CRAP!
A 30lb bag costs almost 3X what a 40lb bag cost just last year, but you are just lucky to find it at all.
“Tractor Supply” has cleansed the phospate entirely to sell only 12-0-12. Sheeeze! If someone pulled up on a tractor they wouldn’t know what it was .
I think waiting for a trigger or trip-wire is a bad idea. We should fight the battle by our rules. I believe we should define the line in advance and warn everyone what will happen if it is crossed. That way all will know when it really is time to make the stand.
All any of these aholes talk about is the economy. Meanwhile our liberty and Constitution are being trounced daily and no one knows what is happening because no one informs them.
Most people have two distinct lines -
you come for my kids or my guns, there will be shooting.
Folks need to network with trusted likeminded folks and talk about what they’re going to do “if”. Probably many already are doing this.
Meanwhile, the state level 10th amendment sovereignty resolutions are the way to go on the political front.
If the patriots make the “first strike”, the fedgov will “legitimately” put down the insurrection. I have no idea what the “first strike” would be, anyway.
I've been saying for a long time now, that there's no lack of spirit or resolve on the part of The People to fight this tyranny from Washington. All that's missing is the "spark".
At some point, the loons in charge are going to pull a boner that cannot be ignored or forgiven, and all hell will break loose.
In a perfect world, we'd have already marched on Washington in the millions, but we are an unbelievably civil people, not prone to violence or mayhem, until we're provoked beyond all sensibility.
My only hope is that we aren't more civil than the situation allows. The encroachment on our freedoms, and the loonies' near total lock on power is almost complete.
The leftists HAVE to know it, too.
They're not attempting to pass the GIVE Act for nothing.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;
and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
When The People finally snap, it will be a storm that no one on the left could have predicted. The fury and righteous anger unleashed will shock the world, and go down in the history books.
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