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Proof Of Citizenship Requirement Passes Panel
The Macarville Report Online ^ | April 3, 2009 | Mike

Posted on 04/03/2009 10:17:27 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen

A bill requiring proof of citizenship for those seeking office has been approved by a (Oklahoma) Senate committee and now goes to the Senate floor for a vote.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: akaobama; birth; birthcertificate; birthers; candidate; certificate; cwii; eligibility; obama; obamatruthfile; obamatruthfiles; oklahoma; proof; uhoh
The bill, by Rep. Mike Ritze and Senator Anthony Sykes, would require candidates filing in Oklahoma to provide documentation of their citizenship.
1 posted on 04/03/2009 10:17:27 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen
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To: SvenMagnussen
Hey, not a bad idea. If just a few of the big electoral college states, like here in Florida, enact similar legislation, 'ol BO will have to prove he is qualified to be Prez in order to be on the ballot (at least in Florida) to run again in 2012.
Failing to provide such proof would mean missing out on all those electoral votes. Now what will the Feds say about this (meaning the courts . . .)?
2 posted on 04/03/2009 10:27:31 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

If this had been law last year, we wouldn’t have a communist in the Whitey House now.


3 posted on 04/03/2009 10:39:49 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper - AntiCHRIST baby killing muslim !)
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To: All
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4 posted on 04/03/2009 10:55:17 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: All

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5 posted on 04/03/2009 10:56:28 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: SvenMagnussen

RETROACTIVE!!


6 posted on 04/03/2009 10:57:12 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

My head is still spinning at how BO was given a free-pass by so many re: the questions about his citizenship!
Anyone else would’ve been scrutinized, crucified, and given the big boot.
Scary to think about...


7 posted on 04/03/2009 11:02:25 AM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“If this had been law last year, we wouldn’t have a communist in the Whitey House now.”

With all due respect, we were screwed from the git-go.

If the attempt to get O into the office had failed prior to Biden being sworn in on Jan 20, it would have been Hilary.

O had/has an enormous machine behind him, seventy years in the making.
His faction of the machine was stronger than the Clinton faction.
However, the machine obtained what it desired, it has them both at and near the top of the government.

Americans who don’t know would be appalled to learn of the number of Congresscritters who are socialists at heart.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 11:13:42 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialism is a "domestic enemy" .)
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To: 2harddrive
RETROACTIVE!!

Ex post facto.

9 posted on 04/03/2009 11:15:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: The Sons of Liberty
If this had been law last year, we wouldn’t have a communist in the Whitey House now.

If it had you'd still have people quibbling over the definition of 'natural born citizen'.

10 posted on 04/03/2009 11:16:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Nah. Ex Post Facto laws are COMMON in both tax and gun control laws, and permissable, according the the Supremes, in all civil law.


11 posted on 04/03/2009 11:18:26 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: patriot08
It's to bad we have to rely on a Russian immigrant to fight for the Constitution. It's to bad we have a bunch of Aholes in congress and The Supreme Court to do this. We need this commie bastard out of the White House and in to the out house.
12 posted on 04/03/2009 3:53:43 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: Montana_Gal

I agree. Obama has hidden all his records under the privacy act as amended.


13 posted on 04/03/2009 3:59:21 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: The Sons of Liberty
"If this had been law last year, we wouldn’t have a communist in the Whitey House now."

How many times do I have to explain this? It IS the law. Read section 3 of the Twentieth amendment.

"3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Read U.S. Code3USC19

TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT

CHAPTER 1--PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.

Read Article six of the Constitution as it pertains to the oath of office for elected officials:

” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

The language isn't vague, it's crystal clear and it places the burden entirely upon the one seeking the Presidency to "qualify" BEFORE they can become President. If this took place, where is the documentation?, Who saw it? We the people have a right to know these things. If it didn't take place, we currently do not have a legal President. If the elected officials wanting these eligibility laws enacted in their own states would simply OBEY their present oaths of office, a challenge would provide them with "standing" to enforce (support) the Constitution. No judge can force someone to break the law in an effort to enforce the law. Wake these people up. We only need ONE to do it.

14 posted on 04/03/2009 4:14:36 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: jarofants

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Yes, it is too bad we have to rely on a Russian refugee to fight for our constitution.
But this little lady is a hero. Let’s all do what we can to help her.

Dr. Orly’s website:
http://defendourfreedoms.us/
She needs our research, donations and letter writers

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15 posted on 04/03/2009 6:19:13 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Lumper20
I agree. Obama has hidden all his records under the privacy act as amended

Yes, clearly he has something to hide. Often times even in the private sector,a potential employer may ask a person to show proof of U.S.citizenship. So what's Obama's big secret? (As if we don't already know.) And what about that trainload of B.S. re: "transparency"?! Just totally unbelievable! I could go and on, ad nauseum...

16 posted on 04/03/2009 7:04:11 PM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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To: SvenMagnussen

If this passes, the dems will add a rider that it goes into effect beginning 2013.


17 posted on 04/03/2009 7:08:52 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

I was an Oklahoma resident from birth in 1954 until 2005 when I moved to Missouri to take on a new career. Glad to see that Mike McCarville is still alive and kicking in OK.

I really used to enjoy his talk show every afternoon on KTOK in Oklahoma City. A great guy.


18 posted on 04/03/2009 7:19:33 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Uncle Sham
The language isn't vague, it's crystal clear and it places the burden entirely upon the one seeking the Presidency to "qualify" BEFORE they can become President.

Amen!!! BO should never have even survived the vetting process... IF there had been a legitimate one. And if just one SC justice would have the cajones to stand firm and do the right thing... Impeachment proceedings would begin post haste! But when you have a POTUS playing at Master of Human Resources, micro-managing the staff of businesses such as auto makers, etc., surely the Chief Justices are more concerned about appeasing him, and covering their own a--es, lest they be the next to fall!

19 posted on 04/03/2009 7:26:04 PM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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To: SvenMagnussen

obumpa


20 posted on 04/04/2009 12:26:52 AM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Montana_Gal

How would he get a security clearance!


21 posted on 04/04/2009 12:36:18 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent

I haven’t a clue... Except his obviously came-with-the-POTUS-gig! LOL!

I’m a USAF vet, that had what could be termed a medium-high level of clearance, and I practically was turned-upside-down, shaken inside out, and been required to give-up my first-born -had I one- ...LOL!
I guess that’s why -as it was reported- BO “wouldn’t have been cleared to be one of his own SS agents”.


22 posted on 04/04/2009 1:29:09 AM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Always Independent

Oh wait, I just had an O-epiphany re: how he got his security clearance...

He really IS The Messiah, afterall!
;-)
...........NOT!!!..........


23 posted on 04/04/2009 1:40:07 AM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Montana_Gal

Know the feeling. I work in the defense industry. Something is wrong in DC. And we are bamas next target.


24 posted on 04/05/2009 12:31:48 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Uncle Sham
It IS the law. Read section 3 of the Twentieth amendment.

The who is charged with enforcement? The Justice Department? This would've been the Bush Administration, since it was last summer. If this was not checked, then the former Attorney General should be prosecuted for malfeasance.

I think each state has a responsibility also to ensure that anyone placed on their ballot meets the prescribed qualifications. If they do not, then their voters run the risk of having their votes disqualified and they become disenfranchised.

25 posted on 04/05/2009 12:25:27 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper - AntiCHRIST baby killing muslim !)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
""I think each state has a responsibility also to ensure that anyone placed on their ballot meets the prescribed qualifications. If they do not, then their voters run the risk of having their votes disqualified and they become disenfranchised. "

I agree with this as it goes to the heart of the voting rights act. As to "who" should be enforcing the Constitution, EVERYONE who takes their oath of office who is mentioned in Article six is DUTY BOUND to "SUPPORT" the U.S. Constitution. Otherwise, they are committing malfeasance in office. How can anyone claim by not enforcing the Constitution that they are supporting it? Read the passage again from section three of the Twentieth amendment.

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

The items in bold clearly provide that the person seeking the office of President must "qualify" before being allowed to be President. It also indicates that Congress shall determine what happens should "qualification" not occur. This means that the person who is required to "qualify" must do so to Congress, otherwise how would Congress know which action to take? I think that what we actually have is a vacant office currently at President and that ANYONE who is currently serving who has taken a oath to "support" the Constitution has standing to require that these "qualifications" be presented and affirmed as legal. In fact, not doing so is breaking their oath and with it, the law.

I would also say that as President, Bush broke HIS oath and the law by not supporting the Constitution on this issue. His inaction has caused considerable harm to everyone in this nation.

26 posted on 04/05/2009 1:00:59 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham
I would also say that as President, Bush broke HIS oath and the law by not supporting the Constitution on this issue. His inaction has caused considerable harm to everyone in this nation.

You are right. Not only has a possible Usurper obligated the US for $trillions while posing as President, his actions have resulted in a tremendous loss of value of saving, 401Ks, investments, etc. If the truth ever comes to light, I intend to file a civil suit for an exorbitant amount against Soetoro and anyone who "aided and abetted" his sham.

27 posted on 04/05/2009 1:45:00 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper - AntiCHRIST baby killing muslim !)
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To: SonOfPyrodex
"All Federal power is now consolidated by the coup."

NOT if we can convince our state-level reps that THEY also hold the key to halting this fiasco. One of them must be convinced to step forward and DEMAND that the Constitution be "supported".

29 posted on 04/05/2009 2:06:18 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: SonOfPyrodex
This is a court case in which a claim of having "qualified" must be backed up with supporting evidence. Remember, no court has considered the merits of this case because they've skated by through issuing these "lack of standing" decisions. They would not be able to do this if someone who is Constitutionally oath-bound to "support" the Constitution is the party stepping forward.

Another possible avenue of approach is the voters pressing malfeasance charges against their representatives in a bid to force their hands to support the Constitution or be thrown from office. The main point is that we the people must MAKE this an issue and we the people must DEMAND that our Constitution which protects us is obeyed and enforced to the fullest.

31 posted on 04/05/2009 6:52:03 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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