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Video: Alarming Hack Attack
Fox News ^ | 4/22/09 | Fox News

Posted on 04/22/2009 8:50:41 AM PDT by careyb

4 terabytes[!] of info about the F-35 Fighter Jet obtained by hackers.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: hack

1 posted on 04/22/2009 8:50:41 AM PDT by careyb
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To: careyb
Related thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2234168/posts

2 posted on 04/22/2009 8:52:03 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: careyb

I asked yesterday why any $300 billion secret project should be connected to the Internet. Still don’t understand why.


3 posted on 04/22/2009 8:52:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: careyb

Yeah but you know managers thought they were getting a great price for network security.


4 posted on 04/22/2009 8:53:18 AM PDT by fso301
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To: careyb

Some scientists are now analyzing the data in Moscow and Beijing.


5 posted on 04/22/2009 8:53:39 AM PDT by benjibrowder (I keep praying for hope and change, but I open my eyes and Obama is still President.)
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To: careyb
OBAMA HAS BEEN PRESIDENT FOR 12 WEEKS
6 posted on 04/22/2009 9:02:50 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
... and the Russians & Chinese get the F-35 blueprints.
7 posted on 04/22/2009 9:03:52 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: careyb
4 Terabytes would take 37 DAYS to download at 10Mbit (higher than MOST broadband connection, MAXED OUT)

Even at 100Mbit FULL ETHERNET speed, it would take 3.7 DAYS.

I CANNOT BELIEVE that the Pentagon's SECURITY PEOPLE would not notice this traffic spike.

8 posted on 04/22/2009 9:08:49 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Well you know he just wants everyone to have a fair chance, so it will be of no concern to “the one”


9 posted on 04/22/2009 9:10:55 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug (s)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I was thinking the same thing. How in the world can you download 4096 gigabytes of data without somebody noticing?

Complete and utter incompetence.

10 posted on 04/22/2009 9:19:39 AM PDT by DigitalVideoDude (It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Obumas staff has been busy...


11 posted on 04/22/2009 9:21:55 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Dallas59

We’re about 1/17th of this “presidency” done.

I’m not sure America can physically withstand 16 more 12-week periods like this.


12 posted on 04/22/2009 9:27:23 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: DigitalVideoDude

“Complete and utter incompetence.”

That’s the point though. No way. No way are they that incompetant. And other reports say the traffic went TO CHINA?????

No way are they that incompetant.


13 posted on 04/22/2009 9:28:37 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

A resounding “NO”.


14 posted on 04/22/2009 9:28:43 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The construction blueprints are minor. The real problem is the transfer of technical information that could aid an adversary in defeating the stealth, jamming and VSTOL technologies. It would, in essence, leave the US and its allies with a very expensive turkey.

Keep in mind, this is such an expensive aircraft that the contracting work is being sub-divided among the countries purchasing the JSF so each country can justify its purchase of the plane.


15 posted on 04/22/2009 9:29:38 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I CANNOT BELIEVE that the Pentagon's SECURITY PEOPLE would not notice this traffic spike.

If it goes on for 37 days, it isn't a spike.

16 posted on 04/22/2009 9:34:14 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: Ol' Sox

Not the point dude...
Here’s a 14-month-long spike or whatever-you-want-to-call-it:
http://trends.google.com/trends?q=2006


17 posted on 04/22/2009 9:40:41 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I wouldn’t be surprised if all the traffic from systems hacked in Turkey, Europe and the US went to China. My friends in the military say the Chinese have attempted to hack into DoD systems over 10,000 times per year.

The key is not only to copy our advanced technology, thereby obviating their own R&D costs, but also to develop systems that defeat that technology and sell those systems to the highest bidder. This means we could spend billions on a military product that would essentially become ineffective.

In my opinion, this is all towards the goal of supplanting the US as the superpower. The PRC doesn’t want to destroy us yet because then they would inherit a burden. They want to do all they can to marginalize the USA so that they can start calling the shots, whether it’s the Spratley Islands, Law of the Seas, support for rogue regimes, etc.

Of course I could just be paranoid; my parents decided to become American citizens after they heard what happen to their families in China after 1949.


18 posted on 04/22/2009 9:41:38 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: 12Gauge687

I think you’re absolutely right.

So if you’re ethnicly Chinese, what do you think, should we have the presumption that Chinese are more likely to be spies for PRC?


19 posted on 04/22/2009 9:45:06 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

My parents and most of my extended family are ethnically China; unfortunately, most cases of what we would call treason do occur among fellow Chinese, some of whom are new citizens. Most of these are people whose sole purpose is to help the “motherland.” They are chauvinists to the nth degree. After surviving the Cultural Revolution, my cousin and her husband basically have it right: “We owe nothing to China, it’s that government who owes us for the deaths of family members.”

Earlier this year, the FBI hauled in a guy from the suburbs of Chicago, ready to get on a plane to Shanghai. He was caught on tape in a sting operation.

I think my mom, at age 79, would be a good judge of who is going to turn on this country but she wouldn’t get hired due to “racial profiling.”


20 posted on 04/22/2009 10:45:52 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: careyb

This brings about the simple question - why is the computer holding this information connected to the internet? I don’t care how many firewalls you have - this stuff should be on a stand-alone computer or network with NO electrical connection to the outside world.


21 posted on 04/22/2009 10:47:45 AM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I asked yesterday why any $300 billion secret project should be connected to the Internet. Still don’t understand why.

For the same reason that our $300+ billion electric grid is connected - so that people that have no idea what's going on can see things that they don't understand in order to show that they're 'in the know'.

22 posted on 04/22/2009 10:49:28 AM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: DigitalVideoDude
Complete and utter incompetence.

Or somebody on the inside is helping...

23 posted on 04/22/2009 10:50:27 AM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Not the point dude...

Um, not to be snarky, but a simple download, particularly if slow and mixed in with other traffic, most likely would not show up as an anomaly. The key indicator would more likely be the length of the session that initiated it...and the fact that there was an open port that allowed the download in the first place. But what would I know. I'm just a cissp. Anyway, we both agree with the "WTF" nature of this mishap. Somebody at .gov needs a good slap.

24 posted on 04/22/2009 11:05:24 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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“But what would I know. I’m just a cissp. Anyway, we both agree with the “WTF” nature of this mishap. Somebody at .gov needs a good slap.”

I’m very happy for you. No, I don’t accept it as a mishap. Someone must have left the gate open for this.


25 posted on 04/22/2009 11:13:26 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: 12Gauge687
but she wouldn’t get hired due to “racial profiling.”

I don't think that's true. Anyone with their head screwed on realizes there are great Chinese people, but that PRC has had an active policy of sending sleepers over for many years.
26 posted on 04/22/2009 11:17:33 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

No, I meant she would be the one doing the profiling. LOL!


27 posted on 04/22/2009 12:25:03 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: 12Gauge687

I see - that wouldn’t really be racial profiling then, but personality profiling. At least I would think.


28 posted on 04/22/2009 12:55:13 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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