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Maybe a more prophetic Novel for the times

Posted on 04/25/2009 5:37:01 PM PDT by Kartographer

Maybe a more timely novel for all to be readingisn't Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged", but instead is Stephen King's "The Stand". Personally dispite King being a Obamabot I have always found this novel most prophetic and a great story of the strength of faith. Besides I think Obama much more resembles 'Randall Flagg'(AKA "the Dark Man," "the Hardcase," "the Tall Man," and "the Walkin’ Dude"), than anyone in Rand's novel, beside like Randell Obama is a all things to all people and a 'magic man' as well, I think they would get along great!

Follows are some of my favorite quotes from the book especially read the last one:

"No one can tell what goes on in between the person you were and the person you become. No one can chart the blue lonely section of hell. There are no maps of the change. You just...come out the other side."

"You just couldn't get a hold of the things you done and turn them right again. Such power might be given to the gods, but it was not given to men and women, and that was probably a good thing. Had it been otherwise, people would probably die of old age trying to rewrite their teens."

"A choice? There's always a choice. That's God's way, always will be. Your will is still Free. Do as you will. There's no set of leg-irons on you. But...this is what God wants of you."

"The wind had picked up again, it made strange hooting sound in some empty doorway, and farther away he thought he could hear bootheels pacing off the night, rundown bootheels somewhere in the foothills coming to him on the chilly draft of this early morning breeze. Dirty bootheels clocking their way into the grave of the West."


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Politics
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; thestand

1 posted on 04/25/2009 5:37:01 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer
Stephen King and Ayn Rand in the same sentence? Are you serious??
2 posted on 04/25/2009 5:41:47 PM PDT by Misterioso (The emperor has no brain.)
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To: Misterioso
Hey, The Stand was a great book and very un-Stephen King like.
3 posted on 04/25/2009 5:47:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kartographer

Stephen King writes pop fiction for the intellectually challenged.


4 posted on 04/25/2009 5:52:11 PM PDT by LiberConservative (0bama is to the presidency what Kenny G is to jazz.)
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To: aruanan
Hey, The Stand was a great book and very un-Stephen King like.

Mr. King's early work was terrific. He always had a problem with endings, though. The "big picture" wasn't always there, but the small things were terrific. His short stories were great too (The Body, Shawshank Redemption, both made into movies, Apt Pupil and The Breathing Method were not and should never be).

His later stuff has been less good. Also he's gotten political. He was always a liberal, and didn't try too hard to hide it, but it wasn't in your face. Now it seems that all liberals do is get in your face.

The Stand was good. The Shining was very good (the book not the movie).

5 posted on 04/25/2009 6:03:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Kartographer
I haven't read the book, "The Stand", but we watched the TV mini-series several years ago. SirKit and I were astounded, and quite pleased, when it came to the scene with the three guys in jail, and they began praying OUT LOUD!
6 posted on 04/25/2009 6:03:23 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kartographer
The Stand was in a way a political book. The premise is that good and evil take up sides for the final battle after a world wide pandemic kills off most of the human populace.

King sets up the evil people as those that want order; they want the trains to run on time. (His vision of conservatives)

And he sets up the good as being those who are laid back non-conformist. (His vision of liberals)

What King probably does not realize is that he has it exactly backwards. Conservatives are,although we appreciate order,the ones who appreciate the wholesale chaos of a free economy where everyone is free to go their own way in creating wealth.

It is the Left, the Liberals that want a regimented society that has every aspect of life ordered by a central authority. It is the Left that desires that a top down do as I say or be punished order to the universe.

7 posted on 04/25/2009 6:08:47 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Kartographer

Baby can you dig your maaaaan?


8 posted on 04/25/2009 6:10:08 PM PDT by grandpa jones (obama must be exhausted...having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time)
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To: Steely Tom
Apt pupil is a movie
See imdb
9 posted on 04/25/2009 6:11:04 PM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: Treeless Branch
Oh man. I'm out of it, obviously. I hope the movie version isn't as good as the book.
10 posted on 04/25/2009 6:14:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Kartographer

The Stand is one of my favorite books of all time. I was just thinking about it when I heard about all this “swine flu” stuff.


11 posted on 04/25/2009 6:28:49 PM PDT by USMCWife6869
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To: Pontiac
What King probably does not realize is that he has it exactly backwards. Conservatives are,although we appreciate order,the ones who appreciate the wholesale chaos of a free economy where everyone is free to go their own way in creating wealth.

It is the Left, the Liberals that want a regimented society that has every aspect of life ordered by a central authority. It is the Left that desires that a top down do as I say or be punished order to the universe.

Well stated.

12 posted on 04/25/2009 6:35:11 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: SuziQ
I liked the part in the book when they all started laughing at him: "We were afraid of YOU?!?!?" and Flagg gets furious at them for laughing. Made me see Democrats in a whole new perspective.....
13 posted on 04/25/2009 7:14:54 PM PDT by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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To: Steely Tom

It was a complete failure.

I liked The Breathing Method.


14 posted on 04/25/2009 7:26:27 PM PDT by AceMineral (Offically unapproved of since 1973)
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To: Steely Tom

I thought both The Talisman and Black House were good. I enjoyed the Gunslinger series though the very last part of the very last book had an ending that reminded me of “the bear went over the mountain...and what do you think he saw? He saw another mountain...” So he opted for iteration over revelation. But it was still good, I mean, how in the world would he have been able to get to the top of the tower and reveal the secret of the universe in such a way that was awesome and answered all questions, and left every reader satisfied, but without becoming the basis for another science fiction/fantasy religion like Scientology?


15 posted on 04/25/2009 7:27:52 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kartographer
it's playing out more like Enemies Foreign AND Domestic... on sale now.
16 posted on 04/25/2009 7:46:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: exit82

Thanks


17 posted on 04/25/2009 7:50:30 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Othniel

I’ll need to get that book from the library.


18 posted on 04/25/2009 8:15:56 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kartographer

Oh my goodness...


19 posted on 04/25/2009 8:18:07 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: LiberConservative

Its clear you never read the book, so I wonder why you bothered posting a comment. I never promoted King’s works as a whole I only stated that this one book had merit and depth.

Since you haven’t read it one would guess that you either like to be confrontational just for the sake of the confrontation or you wish to present yourself as a supior intelect above such rabble who would read something that you consider trash even if you yourself haven’t read it, what other answers are? What else would you have to gain from making a comment on a subject you are not wholely versed on?

King’s “The Stand” is nothing like his other works or at least the few I tried to read and it is deeply spiritual, live afirming, and also shows you never know when or who God may call upon to serve.


20 posted on 04/25/2009 9:28:27 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
What you said.
21 posted on 04/25/2009 9:34:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Pontiac
I do not whole agree with you the Nazis kept the trains on time yet they were not conservatives. An the characters where not wholely conservative or liberal. Stu an east Texas Liberal...hmmm never heard of such an animal. Fran keeping here baby instead of aborting it, even though she knew the child's father would dump her. Nick Andros never ask for or took a hand out his whole life. Lloyd Henreid conservative theif robber and killer...hmm I don't think so. The Rat Man clearly a member of ACORN! ;-) And so on. As far as Randell Flagg yes he wanted the trains to run on time his TIME, Just like Obama what's the trains to run own his TIME1
22 posted on 04/25/2009 9:37:43 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; RandallFlagg

Don’t you think you ought to ping RandallFlagg if you’re going to speak ill of him? Plus all us Freeper chicks can “dig our man’ by once again clicking on his home page!


23 posted on 04/26/2009 12:38:23 AM PDT by BruceysMom (My dumb heart has now ran off to Hermiston.)
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To: Kartographer

Chilling book. I read it one winter when for some reason I read a bunch of apocalyptic fiction. Lucifer’s Hammer, Alas Babylon, and A Canticle for Leibowitz among others.


24 posted on 04/26/2009 12:50:32 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Kartographer
M-O-O-N...

I always thought "God's Tom"-- where they hypnotized him, and a calmer, higher personality emerged- was eerie, and accurate.

I've been there, myself...


Just an old Keyboard Cowboy...gating back out, into Cyberspace and the Dreamtime

25 posted on 04/26/2009 3:30:43 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Kartographer

I just pulled it off the book shelf. The uncut version is nearly 1200 pages long. Had to blow the dust off the top. My maid took a vacation. ;)


27 posted on 04/26/2009 7:16:46 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: BruceysMom
I guess I should have asked Randall first, because now I have been reprimanded and had postings removed as he didn't like the quote from the book that I sighted.
28 posted on 04/26/2009 8:10:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Steely Tom
...The Body, Shawshank Redemption, both made into movies, Apt Pupil and The Breathing Method were not and should never be...

Apt Pupil was made into a film, and a crackling good one at that.

29 posted on 04/26/2009 8:12:32 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: BruceysMom; Kartographer

Hmm? Huh?
Sorry. Work’s been busy for me lately. Sorry.


30 posted on 04/26/2009 11:02:54 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg

Cibola!


31 posted on 04/26/2009 11:05:42 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: aruanan
Hey, The Stand was a great book and very un-Stephen King like.

Defimitely his best one, IMO.

His early stuff was fun. His later stuff was dull.

32 posted on 04/26/2009 11:07:15 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Steely Tom
Mr. King's early work was terrific. He always had a problem with endings, though. The "big picture" wasn't always there, but the small things were terrific. His short stories were great too (The Body, Shawshank Redemption, both made into movies, Apt Pupil and The Breathing Method were not and should never be).

And The Long Walk. Quite chilling.

33 posted on 04/26/2009 11:08:39 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Allegra

No. Coors.
I’d PEE Coors if I could...


34 posted on 04/26/2009 11:09:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Kartographer; LiberConservative
Its clear you never read the book, so I wonder why you bothered posting a comment.

Why, to point out his/her literary superiority over all of us "intellectually challenged" little people, silly! :)

35 posted on 04/26/2009 11:11:59 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: aruanan
"I enjoyed the Gunslinger series..."

In a roundabout way. it inspired this artwork of mine...


36 posted on 04/26/2009 11:15:51 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: aruanan

And what exactly did I say?


37 posted on 04/26/2009 11:28:28 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Ted Grant

Oh my Goodness??


38 posted on 04/26/2009 11:29:32 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: RandallFlagg
Now you did it the moderatory will admonish you for sure!! Of course being the Anti-Christ you most likely don't give a . Seems they didn't care for the quote from the book I posted earlier.
39 posted on 04/26/2009 11:34:24 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

To steal a line modified from a cartoon character..
“I’m not bad, I’m just written that way.”


40 posted on 04/26/2009 11:37:16 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Looks great.


41 posted on 04/26/2009 12:07:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kartographer
And what exactly did I say?

Since you haven’t read it one would guess that you either like to be confrontational just for the sake of the confrontation or you wish to present yourself as a supior intelect above such rabble who would read something that you consider trash even if you yourself haven’t read it, what other answers are? What else would you have to gain from making a comment on a subject you are not wholely versed on?

King’s “The Stand” is nothing like his other works or at least the few I tried to read and it is deeply spiritual, live afirming, and also shows you never know when or who God may call upon to serve.
42 posted on 04/26/2009 12:08:39 PM PDT by aruanan
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