Posted on 04/28/2009 11:40:20 AM PDT by vaper69
What happens when a real father disciplines his children in public? All hell breaks loose.
About halfway through our meal a boy that was 5-6 years old, sitting in the corner booth, projected his voice beyond the loud obnoxious levels of the other children. You could tell it was forced, and the boy was attempting to make a scene to get his parents to cave in on something. You know the yell I'm talking about. That angry, frustrated, spiteful scream that the child strains to get out.
In modern times the parent usually follows that scream with "ok take it ... now stop screaming." This new age patheticism that has become the norm in parenting would never have been stood for a few decades ago. You know, when parents were parents and kids were kids ... not the other way around.
As the child hit the climax of his scream the entire restaurant jumped, twitched, and became instantly annoyed at the child. All of this happened in a fraction of a second, but that short time felt like an eternity. Suddenly we were all rescued from the agony of hearing a child in the midst of a well orchestrated tantrum by the only sound that could silence the boy's scream ... his father's voice. "No, stop it!" he yelled. The father's voice was loud, direct, and clearly intimidating. Those three words delivered exquisitely, and timely, immediately silenced the boy, and put an end to the tantrum.
That's when things got ugly.
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‘Passive parenting’ creates libtards (i.e. - spoiled children). ;-)
Was the Prez’ mother a weak woman?
It's a heck of a balancing act. My wife may not always approve, but I refuse to let my kids grow up to be brats with no discipline in their lives.
You Rock!
I had laryngitis about three times a year when my children were small - from colds not from yelling - but I learned how to discipline in a whisper. Preferable, much more controlled - so much of discipline is about who keeps their control longer.
Tip me over, give me a push, I’ll even roll. ;-)
LOL!
Normally one swat to get their attention, then park them in a chair for a bit until they get it through their heads that such things are not allowed and why.
The prez’s mother was counter culture, the daughter of counter culture parents. Both generations were druggies, lacking in moral and personal discipline. 0’s father was the son of Muslim slavers who practiced genocide on Africans. They continue these practices today.
Black Americans bettwe come tothe truth that they have elected their enemy, not their brother.
One of my sons always used to complain that I was yelling at him. I just tell him that at his tender age, he’d never heard me yell.
Not often but just enough to prove who is in charge. I was actually just thinking of this. My brothers and I always had some fear of my dad. My kids don’t fear me much at all.
Of course, none of us are close to my dad either, so I like my situation far better.
The father was good, but Casey’s public rejoinder to the women hope complained — that was great!
Would someone please kindly post the rest of the article?
Yep. I’m trying to find a better balance than my Father used on us kids. I want my kids to feel close to me, but to realize that Daddy is in charge and there is ZERO argument on this point.
I don’t think discipline is about keeping your cool the longest, if you define “cool” as not getting upset. In fact, I often have to pretend to be riled when my kids are out of line, but I’m not really all that upset. I want them to get the appropriate message even if I’m in too good of a mood to get mad.
That doesn’t mean I have to scream, but it means that I might. It depends on the circumstance. Instant escalation can have a very desirable effect when a child is pushing their limits to see where the edge is.
There mother can light them up, but when I break out the thunder its a whole new world.
I find that the more I draw a hard line, the less I have to raise my voice.
That said, kids are different and so are effective parenting techniques. My eldest would cry if we looked sternly at her, while my youngest thought that the question “do you want a spanking” was an offer to allow the action in exchange for a spanking.
The kids WANT to find the boundaries. They will push and try you to see if the boundaries are there. Their actions become worse until they find the boudaries
The father, realizing that people were starting to get pretty annoyed, said something quietly to one of his young boys, only to get sassed back only to by the kid.
The father just went back to his conversation, and the kid ran up one aisle and down another. His word apparently was not of much consequence.
When the kid came running past my table, I put my arm out and stopped him. I quietly told him, "go sit down and be quiet or I'm going to beat your father up".
Scared the crap out of him, he went back and uttered nary a peep after that.
I know, I'm a BAAAAD BAAAAD man...
Weak Women Raise Weak Children
Category: Life
Today I had the desire to start having children. Why? Because I discovered that I wouldn’t be alone in being a good father.
My wife and I went to Red Robin today to get a bite to eat after discovering that the Joey’s by our house is not open yet. As is always the case, Red Robin had a packed house with tons of kids of all ages enjoying a Sunday meal with their families. Surprisingly, the noise of children didn’t irritate me as much as it usually does in restaurants Perhaps it was just that I was happy my wife was back in town. That, or I’m coming down with some dire illness.
About halfway through our meal a boy that was 5-6 years old, sitting in the corner booth, projected his voice beyond the loud obnoxious levels of the other children. You could tell it was forced, and the boy was attempting to make a scene to get his parents to cave in on something. You know the yell I’m talking about. That angry, frustrated, spiteful scream that the child strains to get out.
In modern times the parent usually follows that scream with “ok take it ... now stop screaming.” This new age patheticism that has become the norm in parenting would never have been stood for a few decades ago. You know, when parents were parents and kids were kids ... not the other way around.
As the child hit the climax of his scream the entire restaurant jumped, twitched, and became instantly annoyed at the child. All of this happened in a fraction of a second, but that short time felt like an eternity. Suddenly we were all rescued from the agony of hearing a child in the midst of a well orchestrated tantrum by the only sound that could silence the boy’s scream ... his father’s voice. “No, stop it!” he yelled. The father’s voice was loud, direct, and clearly intimidating. Those three words delivered exquisitely, and timely, immediately silenced the boy, and put an end to the tantrum.
Wow, I was so impressed that a parent would have the courage to actually act as a parent in public these days ... truly inspiring.
Then it happened. “That was WAY out of line!” a woman behind me yelled. “That was just uncalled for.” she continued. Then I heard a couple of women who work for Red Robin say similar things from the kitchen area. Next I heard other women around me criticizing the father’s direct, and successful, action. They were not being quiet. They wanted the father to hear their disapproval. I could not contain myself, “hell no, that’s a good father right there!” I said. “That’s how you get control of your kid.”
I had challenged the hags, and they retreated to whispers.
The woman who originally protested the father’s actions behind me suddenly found herself having to explain to her male companion what had happened. I turned my ear and listened to the conversation. He missed the whole thing, and couldn’t understand why she was so angry. As she explained it to him she tried to lead him to how horrible and out of line this father was for daring to confront his bratty kid. However, her companion didn’t understand what the fuss was about. She continued to press that it was wrong to raise your voice to a child. Not wanting to get into an argument with her ... this punk coward of a man found a way to concede so he could avoid what he undoubtedly felt was a unimportant conversation. See people, this is one of those extremely important talks you shouldn’t avoid. If they have kids ... there will be issues.
I continued to boast in defense of the father loudly, but half disguised as merely a conversation with my wife. I did this until I was the only one willing to discuss the matter any further ... I had won. I had defended the good guys against modern feminist weakness.
If more fathers, or mothers for that matter, cared as much about their kids as this man does we would have a much better world. Instead, weak men dominated by even weaker women let their children get away with anything they want. Next thing you know we have sissy kids who run around unattended in public annoying everyone. As time goes on these sissy kids grow up, mate with other sissy kids, and we have a whole specie of uber sissy pansies on our hands. We call them neo-hippies, or liberals for short.
In closing I would like to point out that not one man in that restaurant complained about the father’s actions, but not one spoke up either. Inside of 1 minute the boy and the father were laughing and playing while enjoying their family time on a Sunday afternoon. Clearly there was no harm or animosity. An entire restaurant full of people continued to enjoy their lunch, the father and son enjoyed great family bonding time, and I shared the experience with all of you. All because one father chose to behave as a father should, and disciplined his child with three little words.
My husband used to thump them on the head and they knew they better not cry.
I had the look and they knew it couldn’t be ignored because they were going to get 3 whacks with a belt when we got home. I constantly got compliments on my children’s behavior.
My DIL is tough as nails, one look and those kids straighten up and when that doesn’t work she whispers in their ear, I’ve never heard what she says but it works. They and we, get compliments on our grandchildren’s behavior too.
I am amazed at how many children are raised without manners. They don’t even say please and thank you much less open doors for people, say excuse me or just generally be helpful and polite.
There is a darn good reason my wife and I discussed child rearing in detail LONG before we were even close to getting engaged.
Thank you.
My dad was the biggest wimp in the world, if we misbehaved he started calling my mom and told her to deal with us, LOL. My mother was brutal, we got the hickory stick but we learned to behave.
I also struck a better balance but the main thing I found, whether you have Time Out, or you spank or just speak to them is that you have to be consistent. You can’t ignore behavior one time and jump on it in the other. And the big thing is positive re-enforcement, point out their good behavior consistently too, it works wonders.
Had real good luck with the manners thing by exhibiting it ourselves and using manners toward them. When they got bratty, the fun stopped.
That is my modus operandi. Trying to get my wife to follow the same is like hammering jello. She's a great Mom, but she has a tough time being... well... tough.
I am with you. Humans have been disciplined for thousands of years with physical actions. Only recently have we as a society thought we are “better” by not doing it. Since the 60’s revolution this has taken effect, and boy the world is a much better place now isn’t it? A man is a man or a punk.
ROFL, I just give them looks or sometimes I put a finger to my lips and believe it or not some of them actually start behaving, occasionally, some of them start screaming or give me dirty looks which I also find amusing.
That’s a good plan.
Us too.
Even worse is the “random” parenting I see.
Little Johnie or Susie is raising hell and mom either laughs it off or ignores it. Maybe tells precious snowflake to stop it once or twice which child ignores. Behavior continues unchanged, neither better nor worse whereupon, with no warning at all parent then wollops the hell out of the kid. Keep that up for a few years and you will literally end up with a psychotic kid.
Discipline in our house depended on the child. My first one was born ready to take on the world. I tried the time out thing with him, then he would whack his brother with a truck and put himself in time-out. Bless his heart, that child was a handful, his brothers learned their boundries from watching him. Needless to say, he has grown to be a very respectful, intelligent young man who I am very proud of.
Was the Prez’ mother a weak woman?
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My bets are ‘YES’....with smatterings with non-existent ‘daddies’....i.e. NO male role model....thus finding one in others such as Alisky and J. Wright.
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