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Olbermann Slams Rep. Virginia Foxx Over Her Insensitive Matthew Shepard Comments (Video)
ConservativeXpress ^ | 4/30/09

Posted on 04/30/2009 6:14:12 AM PDT by DrGop0821

For once, I actually agree with Olbermann. Rep. Foxx should indeed apologize.

Matthew Shepard was brutally beaten, tortured and murdered in Wyoming. His story is portrayed in the play and film "The Laramie Project".

Personally, I disagree with "hate crime" legislation because all crime can be considered "hateful". Does it really matter why someone is murdered? Murder is by definition a "hate crime". Is there really any need to complicate the laws?

That said, Rep. Foxx's comments are truly "despicable", insensitive and shameful.

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1 posted on 04/30/2009 6:14:12 AM PDT by DrGop0821
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To: DrGop0821

I absolutely agree with Olberwoman and this Rep should get cesured but I just can’t watch this jackazz Olberwomen because he has a small mouth and no lips and no brain to go with it.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 6:19:16 AM PDT by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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To: DrGop0821

What did Olbermann have to say about Perez Hilton and his remarks regarding Miss California?


3 posted on 04/30/2009 6:19:29 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: DrGop0821

Foxx got her information from this apparently which indicates that this story was spun by militant gay activists.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=277685&page=1


4 posted on 04/30/2009 6:23:55 AM PDT by Moorka
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To: DrGop0821
hmmmmm....I've read in more than one article the same account given by Rep. Foxx.

Here's a paragraph from an ABC news site:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=277685&page=1

The story garnered national attention when the attack was characterized as a hate crime. But Shepard's killers, in their first interview since their convictions, tell "20/20's" Elizabeth Vargas that money and drugs motivated their actions that night, not hatred of gays.

I see now that the media is trying to change this part of the story. ABC has a "debunking" story just posted three hours ago. hmmmmmm.... Sorry, but I'm a lot more inclined to believe what was posted more than four years ago when a so-called "hate crime" bill wasn't up for passage in Congress.
5 posted on 04/30/2009 6:24:27 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Everything I saw since this event suggests it had nothing to do with homosexuality and everything to do with drugs.


6 posted on 04/30/2009 6:28:33 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: oust the louse; DrGop0821

She should be “cesured” [sic] because she openly disagreed with the “official” mythology surrounding Shepherd’s death? Matthew Shepherd was brutally murdered, and there’s no excuse for that, but it had nothing to do with his being gay. He was killed by a couple of predatory meth addicts and that’s pretty much it.

The sister of one of the killers does some public speaking about the killing at churches and youth events; she has a fascinating story.


7 posted on 04/30/2009 6:28:44 AM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Here were her exact comments: “The Matthew Shepard bill is named after a very unfortunate incident that happened where a young man was killed,” Foxx, a Banner Elk Republican, said. “But we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn’t because he was gay.

“The bill was named for him … but it’s really a hoax that continues to be used as an excuse for passing these bills.”

Rep. Foxx just states that the motive for the crime was robbery, not him being gay. And as poster #5 states, the perps confirm their motive (that of robbery) to Elizabeth Vargas.

So what is Rep. Foxx’s big misstatement here? She just reiterated the motives as stated by the perps. Thousands of people are brutally murdered every year, regardless of their sexual preference? Are they any less dead, or did they suffer any less because they were NOT gay?


8 posted on 04/30/2009 6:29:36 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: DrGop0821
I believe Fox is 100% correct and is one very courageous lady.
9 posted on 04/30/2009 6:30:36 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I am an extremist that was created by Butch Napolitano.)
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To: DrGop0821

Hey Keithy boy, I have one name for you, you bung face:

Jesse Dirkhising

You hatemonger.


10 posted on 04/30/2009 6:31:19 AM PDT by sneakin (Remember, always pillage BEFORE you burn.)
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To: DrGop0821
Jesse Dirkhising
11 posted on 04/30/2009 6:32:50 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: DrGop0821

Olber-twit should ask Jesse Dirkhising for his views on the legislation.

Oh, wait.

(Apologies to the family of Jesse for any unintended offense)


12 posted on 04/30/2009 6:33:12 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: LS

Even though it seems to have been Rahm Emmanuel who coined the phrase about not wasting a crisis, it seems that it’s been the homosexual credo for a very long time.


13 posted on 04/30/2009 6:34:05 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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To: Joann37
And as poster #5 states, the perps confirm their motive (that of robbery) to Elizabeth Vargas.

After the trial. Before and during, one of the defendants and other witnesses said that Sheppard's sexual orientation was a factor.

14 posted on 04/30/2009 6:36:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ChocChipCookie
Former Laramie Police Detective Ben Fritzen, one of the lead investigators in the case, also believed robbery was the primary motive. "Matthew Shepard's sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn't the motive in the homicide," he said.

"If it wasn't Shepard, they would have found another easy target. What it came down to really is drugs and money and two punks that were out looking for it," Fritzen said

15 posted on 04/30/2009 6:37:20 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Non-Sequitur
Helping fuel the gay hate crime theory were statements made to police and the media by Kristen Price, McKinney's girlfriend. (Price was charged with felony accessory after-the-fact to first-degree murder. She later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of misdemeanor interference with police officers.)

Price now says that at the time of the crime she thought things would go easier for McKinney if his violence were seen as a panic reaction to an unwanted gay sexual advance.

But today, Price tells Vargas the initial statements she made were not true and tells Vargas that McKinney's motive was money and drugs. "I don't think it was a hate crime at all. I never did," she said.

16 posted on 04/30/2009 6:39:40 AM PDT by digger48
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To: DrGop0821

Shepard was about a drug deal gone bad. It just so happened that he enjoyed deviant sexual encounters, at least according the press, but he didn’t deserve to be beaten to death. Matt was simply a convenient homosexual to be used by the “gay” community to advance their victimhood political agenda. The marketing of deviance knows no virtue and Rep Foxx is pretty much right on target. Let us not forget that Jeff Dahmer also enjoyed deviance.


17 posted on 04/30/2009 6:50:20 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: DrGop0821
How can telling the truth be "'despicable', insensitive and shameful?"

Hate crimes legislation criminalizes thought. It is "despicable, insensitive and shameful" in the way in which it treats our Constitution.

Representative Foxx deserves kudos for daring to speak the truth.
18 posted on 04/30/2009 7:01:46 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Congress has too many politicians and Leftistlators and not enough Constitutionalists.)
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To: DrGop0821
I propose enactment of the Jesse Dirkhising hate crimes bill, which states any homosexual killing a child while committing a rape gets gets castrated and the offending organ shoved down said perpetrators own throat.
19 posted on 04/30/2009 7:03:31 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: DrGop0821

“Hate crime” laws emphasize hate and not crime. When we embrace such legislation we will wind up with more hate, more crime and less freedom.


20 posted on 04/30/2009 7:06:37 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: DrGop0821
What that representative said was true! Matthew Shepard was killed for robbery purposes. And in that sense, using him for what is known as hate crimes legislation is a fraud and/or hoax.

I don't like Conservatives panicking or jumping the gun just because the truth may seem callous. I just watched the first minute of it and maybe I'll watch more, but she didn't call Shepard a fag, homo; etc.

I will not join in the hysteria over this and will not go crazy just because Olber(wo)mann says I have to!

The truth cannot always be candy coated, especially since the lie it refutes could be used to pass evil, anti free speech, anti Constitutional (title of nobility) legislation.

21 posted on 04/30/2009 7:08:39 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: catpuppy
“Hate crime” laws emphasize hate and not crime. When we embrace such legislation we will wind up with more hate, more crime and less freedom.

Maybe rape should be termed a love crime. Ooops I said something insensitive.

22 posted on 04/30/2009 7:10:03 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: DrGop0821

Emotive manipulation is destroying our country and our Liberties. Even if he was killed because he was Homo so what? Is his death worse then someone who is not? What about all kinds of people murdered for whatever reasons? We are supposed to believe and react that his death is worse then all other death. In addition we are supposed to believe and react as if Homo’s do not also murder out of “hate”. FY and the Liberty destroying horse you rode in on. No wonder the GOP and this country is going to hell in hand basket.

This is all about thought control and the destruction of the West.


23 posted on 04/30/2009 7:12:21 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: ChocChipCookie
Even though it seems to have been Rahm Emmanuel who coined the phrase about not wasting a crisis, it seems that it’s been the homosexual credo for a very long time.

That is the Obama administration. Government by Reichstag fire.

I wonder what legislation the "messiah" was trying to pass when he buzzed and terrorized New York City like that?

24 posted on 04/30/2009 7:12:25 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Stepan12
The truth is Keith, calling our service members, who are willing to fight for us to defend our freedom, is worst than this calling Jack Murtha, Calling the soldiers that have to deal with the scum in Gitmo Nazis is far worst paging Dick Durban...
25 posted on 04/30/2009 7:29:17 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: carcraft

should read calling our service members cold blooded killers


26 posted on 04/30/2009 7:30:07 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: carcraft
I believe that you are referring to this as regards Olber(wo)mann
27 posted on 04/30/2009 7:46:48 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: oust the louse
I absolutely agree with Olberwoman and this Rep should get cesured

Sorry, but no. Olberman is an idiot, and nothing the representative said was inaccurate or insensitive. The Matthew Shepard murder was about robbery and drugs. The fact that the perps used his homosexuality to lure him into the robbery does not make it a hate crime. It was a brutal crime, but the perps were brought to justice under existing laws for the brutal crime. The sexual orientation of the victim makes no difference and should not be grounds for having a different level of protection under the law than some other class of victim.

Keith Obamafan then sinks even lower in his diatribe when he suggests that the Congresswoman is a liar. Nothing she said could be construed as a lie, given the FACTS regarding the Shepard murder that have been made public over the past several years.

To top it off, Obamafan decides to take a parting shot at President Bush by including a snide comment about how many days it has been since the "former President declared 'mission accomplished' in Iraq" even though this vile, hate-mongering sycophant for the left knows full well that Bush never said any such thing. Olberman is either more woefully ignorant and misinformed than most middle-school children or he is a vitriolic bald-faced liar.

28 posted on 04/30/2009 8:18:48 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Stepan12
No< my comment was about Jack*ff Murtha calling the Marines “cold blooded Killers” on the senate floor, and d*ck Durban calling the soldiers at club Gitmo Nazis. That is far worst than what Foxx said, she was just speaking the truth, Murtha and Durban were slandering our soldiers then hiding behind Congressional privilege!
29 posted on 04/30/2009 8:42:18 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Stepan12
Ooops I said something insensitive

And having done so you are obviously guilty of something and must be punished accordingly.

unless of course you are a member of a privileged group in which case you are entitled to free everything as society's way of apologizing for all the hurt you've suffered at the hands of the rest of us.

30 posted on 04/30/2009 8:45:26 AM PDT by catpuppy
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Olberman is just another lefist media Grammscian marxist automaton. He mindlessly mouthes the gay-supremacist propaganda line. The homosexual community doesn’t just want equality: they won’t be satisfied until they can have sex on a park bench and all the public forced to watch and applaud when it’s over, or face moral ostracism, social persecution and even incarceration.


31 posted on 04/30/2009 9:14:48 AM PDT by Blado (''crush the bourgeoisie...grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation'' - V.I. Lenin)
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To: oust the louse

But I always ask why wasn’t there a play and a movie about the 12 year old boy Jesse who was tortured and raped and by 2 adult gay men at the same time that the Matthew Shephard killing occurred.
p.s. there’s evidence to suggest that the Shepherd killing had nothing to do his being gay — the killers were meth addicts who wanted money.


32 posted on 04/30/2009 9:18:21 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: DrGop0821

Telling the truth really upsets liberals. This kid was murdered over drugs, but the left has been using him as a gay poster boy for years. Anybody who believes Olbermann is an idiot.


33 posted on 04/30/2009 10:36:58 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: VRWCmember

Thanks for the explanation. I did not follow that very closely and spoke out of tune. This is why I freep all the time. To get the answers....


34 posted on 04/30/2009 5:43:24 PM PDT by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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35 posted on 05/01/2009 12:02:55 AM PDT by MitchellC
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Wow, if Virginia Foxx is insensitive, I like her much better! Keep up the good work, honey!


36 posted on 05/01/2009 4:11:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Stay out of Mexico. Wash your hands. Keep your pigs outdoors.)
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To: DrGop0821

Its true he was killed during a robbery not because he was gay. Olberdum once again fails to do his homework.


37 posted on 05/01/2009 4:15:14 AM PDT by linn37 (a mortgage in every pot)
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To: oust the louse
this Rep should get cesured thanked for speaking the truth

Psst, I fixed it.

38 posted on 05/01/2009 4:34:07 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: LS
Everything I saw since this event suggests it had nothing to do with homosexuality and everything to do with drugs.

Now that's the "inconvenient truth".

39 posted on 05/01/2009 4:41:00 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: DrGop0821

Thanks to Olbermann, the leftist media, and the hate-mongering gay community, Rep. Foxx is now receiving death threats. So much for tolerance and understanding from the very ones who preach to us so frequently from their bully pulpits.

Here are the Piedmont Triad news organizations who have been pretty vile towards Rep. Foxx in their one-sided coverage of this issue: WGHP Fox-8, WXII-12 (NBC), WFMY-2 (CBS), DigTriad.com website, and news-record.com (Greensboro News and Record). The comments on all of these websites regarding the Foxx story are loaded with hate-filled leftist comments, so come to Foxx’s defense and for the sake of Freedom of Speech!


40 posted on 05/01/2009 6:46:43 AM PDT by waterguard06
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To: waterguard06

I live in her district. She’s toast in 2010 I’m afraid.


41 posted on 05/01/2009 9:57:39 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: amishman

Why, or how, in the world would she be toast in 2010? Surely it isn’t over this.


42 posted on 05/01/2009 12:04:19 PM PDT by MitchellC
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To: MitchellC

Not this per se, but the continued influx of Northern liberals moving into the district. This will definitely not help matters as she will be a prime target by the Dems for the next two years.


43 posted on 05/02/2009 6:24:10 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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