Posted on 05/04/2009 9:31:49 AM PDT by nyscof
New York -- Blood fluoride levels were significantly higher in patients with osteosarcoma than in control groups, according to research published in Biological Trace Element Research (April 2009). Osteosarcoma, a rare bone cancer, occurs mostly in children and young adults
Sandhu and colleagues measured serum fluoride levels in three equal groups of age-matched and sex-matched patients. Group one had osteosarcoma; group two had non-osteosarcoma bone tumors; and group three had musculo-skeletal pain. (1)
Mean serum fluoride concentration was found to be significantly higher in patients with osteosarcoma as compared to the other two groups, write Randhus team. (T)his report proves a link between raised fluoride levels in serum and osteosarcoma, they write.
This reinforces a 2006 published Harvard study by Bassin showing a link between water fluoridation and osteosarcoma in young boys. (2)
A 1992 New Jersey Department of Health study shows osteosarcoma rates higher among young males in fluoridated vs. unfluoridated regions of New Jersey. (3)
More studies link fluoride to bone and other cancers but are downplayed or ignored by government officials. (4)(5)
Bone defects similar to bone cancer were detected in fluoridated Newburgh NY children as early as 1955. Newburgh is home of the first human health fluoridation experiment begun in 1945.
According to Christopher Bryson in The Fluoride Deception. A radiologist, Dr. John Caffey of Columbia University, called the defects striking in their similarity to bone cancer and seen more than twice as frequently among boys in Newburgh as among boys in nonfluoridated Kingston [the control city]. (6)
In 2006, the prestigious National Research Council review of fluoride/fluoridation toxicology found a fluoride/bone cancer link plausible.
If governments truly want to save money, stopping fluoridation is a no-brainer. It would save money, preserve health and teeth, says attorney Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.
In 2005, 11 Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) employee unions, representing over 7000 environmental and public health professionals called for a moratorium on fluoridation programs across the country and asked EPA management to recognize fluoride as posing a serious risk of causing cancer in people. (7)
In addition, over 2,430 professionals urge the US Congress to stop fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted, citing scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. See statement:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/statement.august.2007.html
Take action to end fluoridation here: http://congress.fluorideaction.net
References:
1) Biological Trace Element Research, Serum Fluoride and Sialic Acid Levels in Osteosarcoma, by Sandhu R, Lal H, Kundu ZS, Kharb S, Apr 24, 2009 [Epub ahead of print]
2) Cancer Causes Control "Age-specific fluoride exposure in drinking water and osteosarcoma (United States), by Bassin et al., May 2006
3) New Jersey Department of Health, A Brief Report On The Association Of Drinking Water Fluoridation And The Incidence of Osteosarcoma Among Young Males, Cohn PD. (1992).
4) Fluoride and Osteosarcoma
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/osteosarcoma-timeline.html
5) Fluoride and Cancer
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/
6) The Fluoride Deception, by Christopher Bryson with a foreword by Dr. Theo Colborn, Seven Stories Press, May 2004
http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm
7) Press Release August 19, 2005, EPA Unions Call for Nationwide Moratorium on Fluoridation, Congressional Hearing on Adverse Effects, Youth Cancer Cover Up, Contact: Dr. William Hirzy, Vice-President NTEU Chapter 280
http://www.nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/Press%20Release.%20Fluoride.htm
POE
I would think that with floridated toothpaste they don’t need to continue to put floride in water. On the other hand, so many people now routinely drink bottled water (I don’t think it’s floridated, is it?)
Double reverse osmosis is the water we use (had a system to put in) it removes flouride and just about everything else that ain’t water. Bottled water is nothing special, some are better than others but it’s mostly tap water, some is even spring water which today can be more dangerous than tap.
Do bottled waters have floride in them? I’m curious now.
OHMYGOD!!!! Flouride!!!
An obvious conspiracy to kill us all by the Trilateral Commission, The Bildeburgers, The Illuminati, The Skull and Bones, The Council on Foriegn Relations, the BHO birth certificate cover-uppers and those who want to keep the BSC.
Okay...these people already had bone cancer, right? Then it only makes sense that their body chemistry is wacky. I believe with some cancers the person has high levels of calcium in their blood because the cancer leeches it from the bones. So the question is...is fluoride the cause or just the symptom? Probably the latter.
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Actually, almost our entire food supply is fluoridated. The USDA has put together a fluoride in foods database so that we don’t eat too much. However, most people don’t even know they should restrict their daily fluoride intake.
Fluoride is also found naturally in ocean fish and tea and is in many medicines. Fluoride containing pesticide residues also are present on some produce and grains. Sulfuryl fluoride has replaced methyl bromide as a post harvest fumigant - adding even more fluoride into our diets.
Meanwhile, fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. So avoiding fluoride has no downside (I know that’s hard to believe) And fluoride ingestion does not reduce tooth decay. However, fluoride applied to the teeth does harden the outer enamel. But some say it hides rather than prevents tooth decay as huge cavities are found under sound-looking enamel when it is poked or proded.
Interesting. A better link is actually shown here, than the link between the level of dietary aluminum and the formation of the plaques of Alzheimer’s disease.

Actually, that’s complicated as the FDA doesn’t require fluoride to be on all the bottled water that contains fluoride naturally. However, fluoride added bottled water has to say so.
The FDA regulates bottled water. But its almost impossible to know how much fluoride is in the bottle, unless you call the manufacturer, because:
— Domestic bottled water with no added fluoride may contain between 1.4 and 2.4 mg/L fluoride
— Imported bottled water with no added fluoride may not contain fluoride in excess of 1.4 mg/L.
— Domestic bottled water with added fluoride can contain between 0.8 and 1.7 mg/L fluoride
— Imported bottled water with added fluoride may not contain more than 0.8 mg/L fluoride.
Bottlers are not required to list any naturally-occurring fluoride on the labels.
An earlier study showed more of this cancer in areas that got fluoridated water, than in areas that did not. Certainly other reasons should be investigated, but it seems likely that environmental fluoride is actually pushing this particular cancer.
Right.
A disease with 400 cases in the US annually. And, how many Americans consume fluoridated water every day?
So, some lab finds increased levels of fluoride in osteosarcoma patients and conclude cause and effect?
Sounds like something we’d hear from the Al Gore science crowd.
I can’t believe they’re doing this to our precious bodily fluids!
Some do, some do not have fluoride. I called the Target customer service number and their house brand water, does not.
We use one of these:
http://www.berkeywater-cart.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BK4X2-BB
with a set of the PF-2 Arsenic & Flouride Reduction Elements.
http://www.berkeywater-cart.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PF-2
Fluoride can be removed from a water supply with anionic resin in a home water softener (replacing the fluoride ions with chloride ions which came from the recharging brine).
If I were king, the only human consumable things fluoride would be added to would be toothpaste and prescription drug products.
May be cheaper to add the appropriate resin to a home water softener than to keep buying these filters.
Pot tied to rotting brains. News at 11.
Fluoride is not evil.
Just one of the best and weirdest scenes in cinema history. Terry Southern was one warped dude.
Actually, there are many studies linking fluoride to cancer. This is just the latest one. And since ingested fluoride does not reduce tooth decay, according to the CDC, why are we spending millions possibly billions of dollars adding unnecessary fluoride chemicals into the nation’s water supply
Yeah, I just did a google, the info is out there for anyone who wants to find it.
Or is it a link between osteosarcoma and raised fluoride levels? Which is the cause, which is the effect?
That one study does not determine which, but an earlier study which showed osteosarcoma tracking with water supply fluoridation suggests that ingested fluoride pushes or enables the cancer.
Precious Bodily Fluids...
Since x-rays of children taken in 1955 in the first fluoridation experiment showed bone defects consistent with osteosarcoma that was not found on the x-rays of children in the non-fluoridated control city - before fluoridated toothpaste was sold and before our food supply was fluoride-contaminated, I think all the evidence points to the fact that fluoride may contribute to osteosarcoma and other bone cancers and it’s not the other way around.
Pretty sure "not".....there's been concerned that too many people get all their water in this manner and arent' getting enough flouride.
Then I nominate you King
There is no scientific evidence showing that any person is, or ever was, fluoride deficient. The problem is fluoride overdose with up to 48% of school children sporting dental fluorosis - white spotted, yellow, brown and/or pitted enamel - the outward sign that too much fluoride has been ingested.
however, public health officials and dentists keep putting more of the stuff in our fillings, on our teeth, in our water, in our food supply, etc and tooth decay is still a growing epidemic in the U.S.
there is not much flouride in a normal body to start with, so the total amount found should be an indication if it is outside the normal. calcium, well, you have pounds of it in your body, bones, teeth, and in almost all cells use it for communication. bone cancer messes up the bone, makes the growth go haywire, and that results in an unbalance in calcium in the blood.
I would say that there is a good chance these researchers took that into acount. note that bone cancer victums in flouridated areas would show normal F levels in the blood, if that is the case, then the F in the flouridated water groups blood could be safely assuemd to be fromt eh water supply.
flouride is a very reactive (hence dangerous ) element. it interacts with many body functions, right on down to the cell level, it can rip out needed calcium in bones and cells,
mandated flourination of water should be stopped. the governmnet should not be adding a chemical such as this to all out water, most of which is never drank, all the flouride going to lawns, gardens, showers, clothes washing, there has got to be a better way to dose it to people that agree to this drug.
this is socialism at its worst, mandating this stuff in our water.
if it is any help, Diane Fienstein helped pass a law mandating all california public water supplies to add flourine to it, No choice, Diane knows best.
so even if you want flouride in your water, please dont make me have it, dont make me pay for it either. if you want it, add it on your own.
it really is a “oh my gawd” if you have a bad exposure.
all fun aside, freepers should not be joking about this. what about conservative values and the government forcing this on you. this is socialised medicine, On eof california’s finest democrats passed a law mandating it in all public water supplies.
what a wasteful way to force drug doses on folks. most of my water goes to garden, clothes washing, lawns, showers etc. I would say at most 1% of my water is consumed. so this government mandated drug dose is only 1% utilized.
do not support such a thing that eliminates my choice not to have fouridated water, I am forced to pay for it also, even if i choose the much more expnsive bottled water, I am still paying for the 99% of the flouride that is wasted on my lawn etc...
we should stand aginst this socialised government mandated program. it is wasteful, even if you had 100% of the people in favor of it, it is a wasteful way of despensing a drug
That’s what I thought I had read, altho an internet search indicates that some do have natural or added fluoride.
Not only is fluoride forced on you via the water supply, “they” do it stealthily so as not to allow the populace a chance to oppose it. This is the way it was done in California.
Ignoring the democratic process and discouraging a healthy dialogue, California fluoridationists worked secretly, quickly and dishonestly to pass a 1995 California fluoridation law, according to The Fluoride Victory, published in the Journal of the California Dental Association.
California Assemblywoman Jackie Speier, working with the California Dental Association (CDA), sponsored the bill that forced all California water companies, with 10,000 service connections, to add nonessential fluoride chemicals into water supplies to prevent tooth decay, without constituent approval or local governing body discussion or vote.
To make the most of the element of surprise, it was decided that Speier would wait until the last possible moment to introduce her fluoridation bill, writes author Joanne Boyd.
We pretty much knew wed catch (the anti-fluoridation faction) by surprise because it wasnt well known outside of the dental community what was going on,’ said Liz Snow, assistant director of CDAs Government Relations (lobbying) Office. But we didnt want to give the other side any more time to mobilize than absolutely necessary, writes Boyd.
William Keese, CDA Director of Government Relations, a lobbyist, received many compliments from other lobbyists on the campaign.
I wouldnt say we pulled a rabbit out of a hat, but it was a coup. We worked hard at getting prepared and using the element of surprise to our advantage. We moved fast and did it in one year,” Boyd quotes Keese as saying.
Putting flouride in water is socialized medicine.
I can die now. I’ve heard everything.
Sorry, buy I don’t understand the math of that suggestion. The water softening system costs how much? And the salt or whatever costs how much how often? And what resin at what cost how often?
I already have the Berkey, and the cartridges will last us about a year.
These findings of raised fluoride sialic acid and alkaline phosphatase levels in osteosarcoma patients indicate that raised fluoride levels stimulate osteoblastic activity. Also, this report proves a link between raised fluoride levels in serum and osteosarcoma.
NOW they put fluoride in water AND market it for BABIES. Baby’s mom (an M.D.) left a jug at my house (2 years ago). I was shocked,wouldn’t even water house plants with it, poured it down the drain, straight away.
Fluoride in the water is different from that in toothpaste. When in the water it goes to the developing teeth. In toothpaste it goes to the erupted teeth.
I don’t think anyone especially kids drink enough tap water to make a difference.
I said it might make economic sense. Someone who already has a softener or is getting one for its major purpose (eliminating hardness minerals such as calcium and magnesium) can have the special resin added. This resin in normal use will never be used up. The same salt that provides the sodium to abate the hardness minerals will at no extra cost provide the chloride to replace the fluoride. I would personally feel leery of any other system (besides reverse osmosis) that says it can get rid of fluoride at typical fluoridation levels for a year without regeneration.
Well, it is the original form of “drinking the Kool-Aid.”
What a waste, your house plants could have been cavity free.
Well, it is. Just because it doesn’t involve second rate clinics with long waiting lists and the usual banes we think of when we think of a socialized medical system, doesn’t hide what it is seeking to do. What would you think if we insisted all public water had to be fortified with Vitamin C?
They don’t say it lasts for a specific time period. They say it’s good for 1,000 gallons. For us, that’s about a year, I think.
http://www.berkeyfilters.com/fluoride.htm
http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkeytech.htm
BUT, my septic tank must be pearly-white.
“What would you think if we insisted all public water had to be fortified with Vitamin C?”
They’re not
Wait! Vitamin C.
Now who was the advocate for vitamin C?
Why Linus Pauling!
Linus Pauling - That Oregon born (we know everyone from there is a Red), Nobel winning (They only award to socialists), Communist Party sympathizing denier (Meaning that OF COURSE he was a Commie).
Q: What would you think if we insisted all public water had to be fortified with Vitamin C?
A: I’d be forced to think that it’s a Communist plot
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