Skip to comments.In Hawaii in 1961, there were three different birth certificates
Posted on 05/12/2009 11:46:25 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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Go after his college records.
Thanks for the confirmation, Beckwith.
Gemsbok, check out post #57, no need for a further search.
Stanley Ann Dunham was born on November 29, 1942 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas so, she was 18 when she left Cuba.
I have some Cuban friends. I will work on this!
The Embargo: The Foreign Assistance Act (Pub.L. 87-195, 75 Stat. 424, enacted September 4, 1961, 22 U.S.C. § 2151 et seq.) is a United States Act of Congress.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:27:52 AM by Fawn
Then if it ever got to the point that I actually had to produce the birth certificate, bingo, I whip it out and make all the liberals look like jackasses.
Since I believe that His Zero-ness was actually born in Hawaii(as unhappy as that fact makes me), I believe that this is what he is doing.
If any one of you can actually prove he was born in another country to someone other than Stanley Ann Dunham, please do so. I will be forever grateful. But I'm not holding my breath.
If it is a "delayed" or "unattended" type certificate, then it's possible that he was born earlier, maybe not too much earlier, than the certificate says. Also possibly not where the certificate says. If his original certificate shows his grandmother as witness, rather than an attending physician or midwife, and birth in someplace other than a hospital, that would be somewhat suspecious. His mother and grandmother would not have falsified the application so that he could be natural born, and eligible to the office of President, but rather so he could be a citizen at all, since IF he was born outside the country and IF his father was not a citizen (which he was not IF he was Barack H. Obama Sr.) then he was not a citizen at birth, provided his parents were married, since his mother did not then meet the criteria for passing on US citizenship to her offspring. (She did by the time his half sister was born) In 1961, even left wing types still saw advantages to being an American citizen.
It would not take a "vast conspiracy", just his mother or grandmother filing an unattended birth certificate. That would generate the announcement in the papers(plural) and produce the exact same "Certification" that was posted. The reason they would do that would be to make him a citizen, not so he could become President 47 years later. They'd need to do that because at the time of his birth, his mother was not eligible to pass on citizenship, if he was born outside the country to a foreign national father, not having lived in the US for a sufficient number of years (5) after her 14th birthday, since she was not yet 19.
It appears that unknowingly, Obama, Sr. did us a big favor by passing on British Citizenship at birth to Jr., making it impossible for him to be a NBC.
Not if born outside the country, in 1961, with an 18 y/o mother and non-citizen father. In such cases, that is non-citizen father, and born outside the country, the US citizen mother must have resided in the US for a certain number of years, and another number of those must have been after her 14th birthday. In 1961 the latter number was 5 years, Stanley Ann was only 18, and thus failed that criteria. (It's now 2 years, but the law at the time of birth is what counts).
So, if he was born outside the country, and hasn't been naturalized, he's not only not natural born, he's not a citizen. But if he has been naturalized, then while he was OK as Senator, and would be OK as Illinois governor, he's not OK as President.
Filing for the certificate, with a falsified place and date of birth, would generate the announcement in the paper.
Amen to that.
I've seen different versions of that law but either way and anyway you look at it, he's a fraud.
We've been duped in the highest mannor.
....could be issued upon testimony of an adult including the subject person
It doesn't say it had to be him. Just an adult.
Why to "someone other than..."? Stanley Ann was young enough when BHO was born, that she could not pass US Citizenship to him, under the law as it existed in 1961. Only if (1) He was born in the US or (2)His parents were not married at the time, would he have been a citizen at birth. Since there are divorce papers that seem to indicate that Stanley Ann was married to BHO Sr at the time of his birth, condition (2) is not satisfied. (Doesn't matter if BHO Sr was not really his biological father).
Since when do someone with a Phd in Philosphy and someone with an M.A. in English Lit qualify as document examiners? Also did you not read the stories behind the “birth announcements” which appeared in the Sunday, August 13, 1961 “Honolulu Advertiser” and the Wednesday, August 16, 1961 edition of “The Star Bulletin” list an address which was not related to either the Dunham family OR to Obama Sr? You must have missed both of those stories when they appeared, the same way you missed the testimony of the neighbor of the listed birth announcement home who swore that there had never been a young white woman and colored baby ever live at that home at any time. The neighbor had lived there since before 1960.
Did you ever stop to think that the mere fact of registering the birth generated the birth announcement in the paper and served as a way to “protect a wayward daughter’s honor” while serving as a beginningof a story to build on when that mother returned to HI with a young boy a few years later? I can hear it now, “Isn’t it a shame Ann’s marriage didn’t work out and she is left to raise the baby on her own?”
Grandma’s co-worker’s didn’t even know she was a grandma until Jr returned to HI to attend Punahou and he stopped in at the bank to wait for a drive home. Pretty amazing to keep quiet about having a grandson for 10 years don’t you think? Grandpa was his constant companion when he and Ann returned to HI in 1963 while grandma earned the money!
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