Obama was born in Hawaii. For a while it looked possible that this wasn't the case, and it was worth close and careful investigation. That investigation has been done. Some of you ask, "why won't Obama produce his birth certificate, if it will make this whole thing go away?" It occurs to me that maybe it's in his best interest not to. Sure, maybe he was secretly born in Kenya, but a vast conspiracy of people who wanted him to become President 47 years later placed a birth announcement in the newspaper, and then conspired with Hawaiian record-keeping agencies, hitherto non-partisan, to risk their quiet, bookish careers to lie about the records they have on file.
But maybe it's in Obama's best interest, given that most people have accepted the overwhelming evidence that he was born in the United States, to let a sliver of his most vociferous opponents waste their time chasing their own tails while looking rather silly to the rest of the country. Maybe he'd rather you were spending any time, even five minutes a day, pursuing an absolute dead end instead of criticizing his budget, or his homeland security policies, or his immigration stances, or his health care plan. If he provided his birth certificate, that waste of your time would go away, and you'd spend more time mounting arguments about things Obama actually cares about. Maybe, just maybe, you're being used by this issue. If there's any conspiracy here, that's the one I'd believe first.
That is not prima facia evidence of the location of his birth. That said,
I don't think it's a waste of a few people's time and efforts to chase this down. I'm perfectly willing to lean back and watch how it all develops. If nothing comes of it, so what? These few intrepid souls have already been branded as kooks by the media.
There’s nothing to see here really /sarc goron
Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints none! There is no Obama documentation no bona fides no paper trail nothing.
Original, vault copy birth certificate Not released
Certificate of Live Birth Released Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license Not released
Obama/Dunham divorce Released (by independent investigators)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license Not released
Soetoro adoption records Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce Released (by independent investigators)
Fransiskus Assisi School School application Released
Punahou School records Not released
Selective Service Registration Released Counterfeit
Occidental College records Not released
Passport (Pakistan) Not released
Columbia College records Not released
Columbia thesis Not released
Harvard College records Not released
Harvard Law Review articles None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate None
Medical records Not released
Illinois State Senate records None
Illinois State Senate schedule Lost
Law practice client list Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles None
From The Obama File http://www.theobamafile.com/
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Factcheck is discredited.
Do you subscribe to the same approach regarding his non-release of all his college, most of his medical, selective service and passport records?
Just what will comprise the Obama presidential library one wonders, since he has covered his history with opacity, numerous akas and undisclosed biographical information?
Remember Obama told us in Dreams of My Father that he used his “birth certificate” as a bookmark, kept it close at hand as cherished.
Surely such a well-worn and tattered momento shares no resemblance to the freshly “minted” ( read photoshopped) COLB offered up on factcheck, do you think?
A lot of people contrive US citizenship for their children in order that they may gain the advantages of such citizenship. Mexican anchor babies are one example. A mom having a kid in Kenya would plausibly fake a US birth for her child too, given the chance.
I don’t think it is to Obama’s advantage to keep this going.
Conservatives are not “chacing their tails” on it so much that they are ignoring the other problems of dear leader. It just chips away at his credibility - and according to you - for no reason.
BTW, Annenberg Center was also a funder of Obama’s community activism with Bill Ayers to “immprove” education in Chicago. Obama lies; they swear to it.
Heck if it turns out there was a conspiracy deep enough to put that together we are screwed anyway.
“FactCheck.org, funded by the Annenberg Center (as in appointee-of-Nixon-and-friend-of-Reagan Walter Annenberg), has thoroughly debunked every angle of this story”
Not so fast Bunkie!
Debunking FactCheck.org’s debunking:
It would not take a "vast conspiracy", just his mother or grandmother filing an unattended birth certificate. That would generate the announcement in the papers(plural) and produce the exact same "Certification" that was posted. The reason they would do that would be to make him a citizen, not so he could become President 47 years later. They'd need to do that because at the time of his birth, his mother was not eligible to pass on citizenship, if he was born outside the country to a foreign national father, not having lived in the US for a sufficient number of years (5) after her 14th birthday, since she was not yet 19.
Since when do someone with a Phd in Philosphy and someone with an M.A. in English Lit qualify as document examiners? Also did you not read the stories behind the “birth announcements” which appeared in the Sunday, August 13, 1961 “Honolulu Advertiser” and the Wednesday, August 16, 1961 edition of “The Star Bulletin” list an address which was not related to either the Dunham family OR to Obama Sr? You must have missed both of those stories when they appeared, the same way you missed the testimony of the neighbor of the listed birth announcement home who swore that there had never been a young white woman and colored baby ever live at that home at any time. The neighbor had lived there since before 1960.
Citing FactCheck.org is an automatic credibility disqualifier. I don’t believe anything that FactCheck.org or Snopes says, especially if it has a political angle to it. Those are all Democrats running those sites, just like it is all Democrats working in the News and Media industries.