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Sotomayor - the True Story: Baby Killing, Gun-Hater Nominated to Supreme Court
Bloggers and Personal ^ | 26 May 09 | Xzins

Posted on 05/26/2009 7:58:58 AM PDT by xzins

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To: DuncanWaring
Does this mean she believes all Federal gun laws, with the exception of those imposing a nominal tax, are null and void?

I doubt it, since that position would put her to the right of Scalia.

41 posted on 05/26/2009 8:54:10 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: skimbell

You are not the problem at all. You had the foresight to see that this is what happens. Those who worked to undermine the campaign are now getting this - and they have no right to complain because they got what they asked for.


42 posted on 05/26/2009 8:54:32 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: xzins
This woman is a fitting representative of everything that is wrong with our judicial branch of government today. She does not uphold or rightly intrepret the Constitution of the United States of America...she bends the Constitution to fit to her ideology (when she's not discarding it completely) and knowingly uses her position to craft policy.

That she is replacing one of similar bent on the court does not make me any less hostile to the notion of her being a judge at any level, let alone in the highest court in our nation.

43 posted on 05/26/2009 8:57:15 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: xzins
According to Sotomayor, “the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right.” (U.S. v. Sanchez-Villar, 2004).

That line is a quote from an earlier case (US v. Toner) and is found in a footnote of Sanchez-Villar.

44 posted on 05/26/2009 8:58:11 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

According to Sotomayor, “the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right.”.....

So Scotusminor wants to be the fuse that starts the next civil war?.....So be it!....Bring it on Urkel!


45 posted on 05/26/2009 9:08:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: xzins

Which is negated by Heller.


46 posted on 05/26/2009 9:15:48 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: MortMan
My principles aren't in anyway "dispensable".

Neither option, 0 or McCain was acceptable, but one of those candidates was inevitable and I viewed McCain as the lesser of two evils. I maintained that position throughout the campaign/election with particular emphasis placed on the selection of SC judges by the next president.

So, how's you righteous adherence to true conservative principles holding up in 0's world.

47 posted on 05/26/2009 9:31:36 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: xzins

Whoa: this is an awful citation. The case involved charges of possession of 1.2kg of crack cocaine and an illegal alien in possession of a gun. Not a good example of a 2nd Amendment case.

http://vlex.com/vid/america-jose-sanchez-villar-defendant-18536849

“Defendant-appellant Jose Sanchez -v.- llar was convicted, following a jury trial, in the Southern District of New York (Schwartz, J.) of one count of distribution and possession with intent to distribute approximately 1.2 kilograms of cocaine base (”crack” cocaine), in violation of 21 U.S.C. 841(a)(1) and 841(b)(1)(A), and of one count of possession of a firearm by an illegal alien, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(A). Sanchez -v.- llar was sentenced principally to 235 months’ imprisonment. On appeal, Sanchez -v.- llar, proceeding pro se, argues that his conviction should be reversed because he received ineffective assistance from trial counsel. Specifically, he claims that his counsel was ineffective for failing to challenge the warrantless seizure of the firearm and the police officers’ subsequent warrentless arrest of him.”


48 posted on 05/26/2009 10:01:43 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: xzins
" “the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right.” (U.S. v. Sanchez-Villar, 2004)."

That should be enough for Chris Cox and the NRA to get in on this.
49 posted on 05/26/2009 10:13:01 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; yefragetuwrabrumuy

” “the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right.” (U.S. v. Sanchez-Villar, 2004).”

The above gives an indication of the way she leans. As I understand it, she was citing another case via that statement, and that it was support for another point she was making.

It’s also not a case wherein you’d want to argue that a drug dealer shouldn’t have his gunrights violated.

The point, though, is that she went there, and apparently, she didn’t have to. Plenty of laws about committing a crime with a gun that I have no problem with.


50 posted on 05/26/2009 11:03:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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51 posted on 05/26/2009 12:51:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DuncanWaring
Does this mean she believes all Federal gun laws, with the exception of those imposing a nominal tax, are null and void?

No, she was referring to the Federal government interfering with a "right" of the states.

52 posted on 05/26/2009 1:03:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
That line is a quote from an earlier case (US v. Toner) and is found in a footnote of Sanchez-Villar.

Was the point being made that, because it's not a fundamental right, it's not "incorporated" via the 14th Amendment?

53 posted on 05/26/2009 1:34:57 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Whoa: this is an awful citation. The case involved charges of possession of 1.2kg of crack cocaine and an illegal alien in possession of a gun. Not a good example of a 2nd Amendment case.

Bad cases may make bad law, but they still make law.

One of the most important 2nd amendment cases, US vs Miller, involved a couple of moonshiners, at least one of whom had earlier been a bank robbert.

54 posted on 05/26/2009 2:14:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Was the point being made that, because it's not a fundamental right, it's not "incorporated" via the 14th Amendment?

Here's the footnote, in it's entirety:

[1]-. We reject Sanchez -v.- llar's argument that New York's statutory scheme offends the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. See U.S. Const. amend. II, ; United States v. Toner, 728 F.2d 115, 128 (2d Cir. 1984) (stating that "the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right").

Toner was a case involving an FBI sting of a pair of guys, one of them an illegal Irish immigrant, trying to buy M-16s for the IRA. In that case, the context of the quote is:

Murphy was convicted under Count Four of violating 18 U.S.C.App. Sec. 1202(a)(5) (1976), which makes it a felony for an illegal alien to receive, possess or transport "in commerce or affecting commerce ... any firearm." Because receiving, possessing or transporting firearms in interstate commerce is not in and of itself a crime, United States v. Bass, 404 U.S. at 339 n. 4, 92 S.Ct. at 518 n. 4, and because being an illegal alien is not in and of itself a crime, Murphy argues that his Fifth Amendment right to equal protection of the law is violated by section 1202(a)(5). He concedes, however, that the statute passes constitutional muster if it rests on a rational basis, a concession which is clearly correct since the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right, cf. United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174, 59 S.Ct. 816, 83 L.Ed. 1206 (1939) (in the absence of evidence showing that firearm has "some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia," Second Amendment does not guarantee right to keep and bear such a weapon), and since illegal aliens are not a suspect class.

So ultimately the quote rests on US v. Miller, and even Scalia, in Heller, says "Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited."
55 posted on 05/26/2009 3:31:25 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
So ultimately the quote rests on US v. Miller,

Another case of a simple cite that cannot really be trusted. Miller said nothing about it being or not being a fundamental right. As Scalia pointed out, no right is unlimited, certainly rights can be removed via due process, even the rights to life and liberty. But that does not mean they are not fundamental.

There are lots of those shakey (at best) citations running around in Second Amendmetn Jurisprudence. See:

CAN THE SIMPLE CITE BE TRUSTED?: LOWER COURT INTERPRETATIONS OF UNITED STATES V. MILLER AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT, Brannon P. Denning, 26 Cumb. L. Rev. 961-1004 (1996).

56 posted on 05/26/2009 3:50:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: xzins
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57 posted on 05/26/2009 4:37:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: xzins

Thanks.

There is also no mention of her marital status. At 54, is she still single? Or has a domestic partner?


58 posted on 05/27/2009 12:06:10 PM PDT by m4629
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