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What Is It That Former Russian Communists Understand That American Liberals Do Not?
Flopping Aces ^ | Saturday, May 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pm | Mike's America

Posted on 05/30/2009 4:11:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is it that American libs are still bitten by the red bug?

This commentary in Pravda, the former official newspaper of the Soviet Communist Party has the leftward slide in the U.S. nailed!

American capitalism gone with a whimper
By Stanislav Mishin
Pravda.Ru
4-27-2009

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics.

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1 posted on 05/30/2009 4:11:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What Is It That Former Russian Communists Understand That American Liberals Do Not?

Both groups understand the same things. The difference is that Russians see that socialism leads to failure, and they know that's a bad thing. obama's voters see that socialism leads to personal power, and they don't care that national failure comes along with that power.

2 posted on 05/30/2009 4:14:03 PM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: csense; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Fred Nerks; Allegra; thackney; blam; ...
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The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama.

His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America’s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

3 posted on 05/30/2009 4:15:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: neverdem; TurtleUp; patton; narses
The Zero's adoring fans (and their leaders in the communist/socialist MSM and universities!) have not actually EXPERIENCED socialism. They have been (somewhat) protected from the ravages of socialism BY the evil capitalists that they so thoroughly despise.

Today's Eastern Europe people DID experience Communism and want NO PART of it.

Today's Western Europe people DID NOT experience Communism - but their MSM and universities were steeped in its communist propaganda for 50 years, and so have convinced the dumbed masses that they (the masses) want THEIR PART of it.

4 posted on 05/30/2009 4:18:29 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Liberals attribute past failures of communism to its enemies, or its leaders, or to its leaders' strategies, but not to the ideology itself. They think with just a few tweaks, it could really work.

Kind of like winning a Superbowl with an all-pass offense in professional football. It just doesn't work, not even with Tom Brady leading it!

5 posted on 05/30/2009 4:19:10 PM PDT by exist
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They’ve experienced the reality of it in full force.

I recall long ago when Phil Donahue would have his pal Vladimir Pozner on, who was called the Soviet or “Russian Phil Donahue”. Some lady from Russia stood up crying telling the rest of the audience not to listen to this communist. One might wonder to whom exactly she was referring. :-)


6 posted on 05/30/2009 4:19:18 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: TurtleUp

About time for the “red states” to make a declaration of independence from the rump government that styles itself “blue-state”. WE do not have to obey the dictates of the failing nascent obama regime. That is for the sissy-boys and the she-men of the fever-swamp left, not for real Americans. There shall soon be no practical framework from which to run the newly highly centralized government.

They may not be able to escape in Chicago from this highly partisan form of pseudo-diversity, but nobody has to hold still for it in the broad prairies that stretch to the south and west from that benighted city.


7 posted on 05/30/2009 4:23:49 PM PDT by alloysteel (President Obama - "You ain't seen nothin' yet!" Still poised to amaze and impress us all.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They know comrades when they see them.

Every FReeper/American should understand these ideas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU

These are not liberals and democrats, these are stone-cold commies.

Communism doesn’t begin with piles of corpses, it begins with hope and change.

Communism is not a huge number of people deciding to be serfs, slaves and suicidal, it is a huge number of people wanting hope and change.

Freedom is binary. You’re either free, or you are not. There are only shades of slavery.

Americans are no longer free. They’re suffering a kind of socialism/communism/fascism.

This is not what the founders had in mind and it is not freedom, as such.

The enemy of freedom is on the left.

The time to begin the fight is right now!


8 posted on 05/30/2009 4:28:04 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What till Gulags are set up for those that appose the new order. Of course the idiots who vote for people like zero shall still be to stupid to see what the deal is.


9 posted on 05/30/2009 4:32:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (I still believe Duncan Hunter would have been the best solution... during this interim in time....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That just because you’re a good commie doesn’t mean you’re going to get a cute little dacha on the lake.


10 posted on 05/30/2009 4:32:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow...Pravda is making more sense than the MSM. That is sad.


11 posted on 05/30/2009 4:33:52 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The difference is that the Russians actually cared about their country. The Americans that voted for Chairman BO only cared about getting something for nothing. The polite word is ethnic identity, but what it really means is that blacks voted for a black because he was black. The vast majority never knew Chairman BO’s political positions. Some blacks believed that he would actually pay their rent. They care nothing for this country, never have, never will.
The liberals hate American traditional values. If they could, they would make Atheism the official religion of the United States. The State is their god, and they create the State. It is a religion with them.
12 posted on 05/30/2009 4:40:24 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I read this earlier from a DRUDGE link. I can’t disagree with a word of it :(

In fact, he doesn’t even get into health care, carbon credits, military affairs, SCOTUS or the VAT.


13 posted on 05/30/2009 4:45:10 PM PDT by citizen (Fascism: All persons, capital & activities exist to support the will & best interests of the State.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Of course the idiots who vote for people like zero shall still be to stupid to see what the deal is.

The single most often used plea in the Gulags and work collectives during the Soviet Union era was "Comrade Stalin, save me!"

14 posted on 05/30/2009 4:48:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Prowd gaduate of a Calefornica publik skewl.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This has already been posted

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261299/posts

With all due respect to you “Ernest” because I know you are a long time Freeper, I think folks should refrain from posting articles from blogs that are really only quoting from other sources.

It would be better to seek out the original source and post that, providing it has not been posted before.

In this case Pravda is “reprinting” and article originally posted on an anonomous blog. We have no way of knowing who wrote the article or what that author’s actual nationality is, or anything else about him.

Besides all that, Pravda barely even resembles what it was under the Soviet Union, but more resembles the National Enquirer now. Just go look at some of the other articles on their web-site. (French Release Secret Pictures of UFOs, Huge Hairy Sea-Monster Found, ETC.)

The actual essay is good but would have more weight if a person could trust it actually cam from a Russian.


15 posted on 05/30/2009 4:48:59 PM PDT by Liberty Rattler (Don't tread on me!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

Ummmm, excuse me but doesn't Stanislav Mishin write like he's one of us? A freeper?

16 posted on 05/30/2009 4:52:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: GOPJ

Yes, especially his misspellings. There was a nasty discussion on one of the dozen or so previous postings of this article about the alleged illiteracy of the author, because he misspelled “descent”.


17 posted on 05/30/2009 4:55:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Nosterrex
The difference is that the Russians actually cared about their country.

Thinking about it, that statement is, in context, correct. A minor qualifier might be added, that excludes Lenin (who was not very Russian) and the Bolsheviks.

Most of the original Communists got dead or exiled.

18 posted on 05/30/2009 4:57:08 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Prowd gaduate of a Calefornica publik skewl.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Errrr.... comrade zero......save me...... I appreciate your understanding of the situation.


19 posted on 05/30/2009 4:58:14 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (I still believe Duncan Hunter would have been the best solution... during this interim in time....)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

> MSM and universities were steeped in its communist
> propaganda for 50 years,

Correction. 150 years. They’ve been in love with Marx and his demonic spawn since his Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital, both published in the mid-1800s.

“Be not decieved; God is not mocked: For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
~ Galatians 6:7

“For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.”
~ Hosea 8:7


20 posted on 05/30/2009 4:58:20 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Errrr.... comrade zero......save me

I didn't plan to be on my knees, in rags, with a tin cup, when invoking the Obamessiah, but, it looks like I'll have to play the part (if I don't have to sell the cup for scrap).

21 posted on 05/30/2009 5:02:56 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Prowd gaduate of a Calefornica publik skewl.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One word answer: Experience.


22 posted on 05/30/2009 5:09:05 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Nosterrex
If they could, they would make Atheism the official religion of the United States.

They already have. They just call it environmentalism.

23 posted on 05/30/2009 5:12:45 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Navy Patriot

Before zero’s gang is through with us there may be no more scrap yards to pay for scrap. The whole system will pardon my pun, be a scrap heap. We have entered deep doodoo phase.


24 posted on 05/30/2009 5:18:34 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (I still believe Duncan Hunter would have been the best solution... during this interim in time....)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Excellent point, but I know a lot of Poles who voted Obama.


25 posted on 05/30/2009 5:22:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Nosterrex

Isn’t it ironic that adults, who don’t believe in magic, believe in “something for nothing” when spoken from a politicians mouth.

A politicians mouth no less.


26 posted on 05/30/2009 5:24:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Boucheau

Thanks for the addition.


27 posted on 05/30/2009 6:57:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: 1010RD

How many who had lived IN Poland from 1945 through 1995?


28 posted on 05/30/2009 7:04:17 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I thought those people were quite petty. This was written in Russian for Russians. We got the translated copy. Grammar is usually poor in such articles due to linguistic differences. It was probably translated by babelfish and some poor russian intern who knew “some” english.

I thought the essence of it shone through quite well.


29 posted on 05/30/2009 7:15:05 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: FreeInWV

Oh, not only the essence shone well, but all or most of the details, like exposing the inconvenient truth that homosexuality is considered a virtue by what passes for the official culture here. The man hit the target, as do many foreign commentators do these days.


30 posted on 05/30/2009 7:18:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Boy, talk about nipicking.


31 posted on 05/30/2009 7:24:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: FreeInWV
We got the translated copy

Sure would be nice to get the full story behind the Writer,,,

32 posted on 05/30/2009 7:41:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What Is It That Former Russian Communists Understand That American Liberals Do Not?

That communism is bullsh(t.

33 posted on 05/30/2009 11:00:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines are breaking.)
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To: 1010RD

Liberals have mental problems. They are very neurotic and believe the government is supposed to be the loving and fair parent of their narcissistic fantasies.


34 posted on 05/31/2009 4:17:50 AM PDT by MichiganConservative ($2 trillion in secret loans since late 2008. Audit the federal reserve. Support HR 1207.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

We are so hosed...


35 posted on 05/31/2009 9:15:31 AM PDT by patton (Oligarchy is an absorbing state in the Markov process we find ourselves in. Sigh.)
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To: Revolting cat!
"Spell checkers" are free - for a reason.

I'm as impressed with the "spellers" of the world as I am with the people who can add long strings of numbers in their heads.

There might have been a time when it was awe inspiring, but today - with spell checkers and calculators - it's parlor game stuff.

A man who can put worthwhile thoughts down - or the man who can tell me a truth with numbers - is the one I respect.

That rote stuff is for children in classrooms with big pictures on the wall...

The man who wrote this put some thought into it. If he can spell in English or Russian or whatever doesn't matter. I read for content - not to correct spelling errors. Most here got over the spelling bee mentality in junior high...

36 posted on 05/31/2009 9:32:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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