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Dr. Meets Violent Death
Barry's Obamanation ^ | 5-31-09 | Jesse Ellis

Posted on 05/31/2009 5:05:07 PM PDT by 51773photo

Dr. George Tiller met with a violent and premature death today, at the hands of someone who thought he should die.

Dr. George Tiller was an abortion Doctor.

His job was, at the request...

(Excerpt) Read more at barrysobamanation.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; deathjustice; tiller; violence

1 posted on 05/31/2009 5:05:08 PM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 51773photo

The murder of this man was wrong but so are the deaths of thousands of the unborn. These pro-abortion whack jobs are totally illogical. I was once in a spirited debate with a “pro-choice” person once and I ended it with a simple question ... I said, “Aren’t you glad, Sir, that your mother didn’t abort you?” He was speechless. End of debate. I won.


2 posted on 05/31/2009 5:27:52 PM PDT by chippewaman
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To: 51773photo

Food for thought -

And now begin the discussions of why this was not good - what people should be commenting about the killing, the self flagellation, how will the prolife movement look - yada, yada.

But - What no one is talking about - conspicuously - are the unborn bables.


3 posted on 05/31/2009 5:28:13 PM PDT by Anita1 ( "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last." Luke 13:30)
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To: 51773photo

The apparent killer, a rabid anti-abortionist, appears to be responsible for this.

As a staunch pro-lifer, I condemn his actions. He is not associated with me or like-minded pro-lifers, and I would be deeply offended if anyone associated his kind with mine.

Anti-abortionist. Pro-lifer. There is a difference.


4 posted on 05/31/2009 5:30:19 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: Anita1

I agree. they have no voice, they are unseen, unimportant.
(and so are the babies)
(I too have hit that send button, only to regret it 10 seconds later)


5 posted on 05/31/2009 5:32:26 PM PDT by 51773photo
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To: chippewaman
I said, “Aren’t you glad, Sir, that your mother didn’t abort you?” He was speechless. End of debate. I won.

Of course .... Its no coincidence that all pro-abortion folks have already been born .. !

6 posted on 05/31/2009 5:33:40 PM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrNCO)Military)
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To: prismsinc

Agreed. Killing doctors is not the way to go about doing things. This douchebag has set the pro life movement back. I refuse to condone his actions and do not wish to be associated with him.


7 posted on 05/31/2009 5:34:15 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: 51773photo
remember the recent flare up about the "domestic terrorist lexicon?"

Wonder what sorts of web surveillance is going on now to stop "domestic terrorists."

8 posted on 05/31/2009 5:36:17 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: 51773photo
Cui Bono? The only ones to benefit are Obama and his ilk. This act is going to be the justification for draconian police and legal measures against all who speak out against abortion. I do not believe in coincidence.
9 posted on 05/31/2009 5:40:49 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: chippewaman

Excellent, chippewaman!

What would people recommend a person do if a killer entered their own children’s daycare - with the intention of killing everyone in there? Shall we pray - or protest? Write letters to our officials? Stand and do nothing? That is what happens in a clinic. Children are going marked for a certain death. Just a question - can anyone answer that?

These children who are marked for slaughter cannot speak for themsleves. Shall we worry about what people will say if we get involved? They are not rhetoric - they are real live human beings - children - just not ours . So maybe that is the answer. Since they are not ours - we will not worry about the children - just worry about the ones who kill them.


10 posted on 05/31/2009 5:44:08 PM PDT by Anita1 ( "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last." Luke 13:30)
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To: Anita1

Anita, this man saved few lives if any. Tiller will be replaced, and the damage this act will cause to the pro-life movement will set it back years. If anything, ultimately, this will result in more abortions.


11 posted on 05/31/2009 6:07:57 PM PDT by Melas
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To: 51773photo

This hurts the pro life movement. The perp should be punished. I don’t feel sorry for the guy or his family since he made his living killing the innocent for profit.


12 posted on 05/31/2009 6:15:18 PM PDT by Leto
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To: prismsinc

Condemn his actions all you want, the lib media and abortion wackos will tie you and me and all of us to this guys coattails like we were siamese twins. Ready or not, just listen when your lib relatives start in on this and include you and your views.


13 posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: 51773photo

I’ll not shed a tear nor mourn his loss. I have no sympathy for the murder of a murderer.


14 posted on 05/31/2009 6:27:21 PM PDT by Outland (Ping me when the revolution starts.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

I’m well aware of that.

Are you prepared to take an adamant and accusatory stance against them? I am.

The media isn’t going to intimidate me. I choose to learn from Dick Cheney on this.


15 posted on 05/31/2009 6:31:02 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: BlueStateBlues

So, fight back! One nutdoen’t ruin anything. Just emember Tiller was the grossest of gross murderers! Remember Scott Peterson is serving a Life sentence for murdering his unborn son. Not any different than what Tiller was doing on a mass scale.


16 posted on 05/31/2009 6:34:32 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: Anita1
Do the math:  Murdering one abortion doctor will not bring back to life the 43 million babies that have been aborted since Roe v. Wade was made law of the land.
17 posted on 05/31/2009 6:35:20 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BlueStateBlues
I will accept no one tying me to this man's actions for I have never espoused murdering abortionists.

Nor will I stand quietly and listen to one second of their perverse moral relativism that excuses the murder of millions of helpless babies because the law has decided they are not worthy of being considered 'persons.'

19 posted on 05/31/2009 6:50:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: 51773photo

May what Satan intended for evil be used for good.


20 posted on 05/31/2009 6:52:25 PM PDT by Bellflower (The end of this age is near but the beginning of the next glorious one is coming!)
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To: Melas
>"Tiller will be replaced,"

Too bad the BTK guy is already behind bars.

Tiller was just the ultimate pedophile BTK, he liked em real young.

21 posted on 05/31/2009 7:01:07 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: 51773photo
He will not be missed.
22 posted on 05/31/2009 7:05:40 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: 51773photo

Who’s Dr. Meets ?


23 posted on 05/31/2009 7:06:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Melas; BigSkyFreeper; anita
Anita, this man saved few lives if any. Tiller will be replaced, and the damage this act will cause to the pro-life movement will set it back years. If anything, ultimately, this will result in more abortions.

I beg to differ. Since Roe v Wade was decided, quite a few abortion doctors have been murdered, and even though the pro-life movement has encountered these setbacks it has reached the point today, according to recent polls, where more people think abortion is wrong.  So all these killings and related violence haven't worked against the pro-life movement.

From Wikipedia:

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 9 people, including 5 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.

June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.

December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[5] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.

January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.

October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he was entering his church in Wichita, KS.

A fourth doctor, George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama on August 21, 1993, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery. Link

That info is credited to NARAL, who wouldn't understate the phenomenon.

The actions of one individual shouldn't be seen as the actions of a whole group of people, and shouldn't cast guilt on the actions of the majority of people who believe abortion is wrong.

The liberal government and their media enablers will do what they can to use this episode to discredit the pro life movement.  It's up to us to keep them honest and on point.

A murder like this doesn't bring back the lives of the innocents butchered at the hand of these abortionists, but it certainly brings the abortion issue to the forefront, and whether we like it or not it forces us to think about the issues surrounding the abominable practice of abortion.

24 posted on 05/31/2009 7:10:56 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Revolting cat!

brother of Dr. Met


25 posted on 05/31/2009 7:13:32 PM PDT by 51773photo
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To: Victoria Delsoul

We will have to agree to disagree. In either event, I think everyone can agree that the best course of action for conservatives is to decry Roeder’s actions and call for a swift execution if he’s convicted.


26 posted on 05/31/2009 7:16:55 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas; BigSkyFreeper; All

As I stated before I am not for violence - I hate the violence agaisnt the unborn in the womb and in the clinics:

And now begin the discussions of why this was not good - what people should be commenting about the killing, the self flagellation, how will the prolife movement look - yada, yada.

Shall we worry about what people will say if we get involved? The unborn children are not rhetoric - they are real live human beings - children - just not ours .

So - Maybe that is the answer.

Since they are not ours - we will not worry about the children - just worry about the ones who kill them.


27 posted on 05/31/2009 7:21:15 PM PDT by Anita1 ( "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last." Luke 13:30)
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To: 51773photo

Talk about late term!


28 posted on 05/31/2009 7:24:23 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: 51773photo

Abortion doctor? A man who kills for a living is called doctor?


29 posted on 05/31/2009 7:58:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is Brewing!! Tea Party Express/Taxpayer March on DC 09.12.09!!)
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To: bdeaner
Some pictures tell a million stories.
30 posted on 05/31/2009 8:02:47 PM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: chippewaman
The murder of this man was wrong

Why do you say that? If abortion is murder, and I believe it is, why is killing a murderer murder?

31 posted on 05/31/2009 8:05:28 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

because, in the eyes of the law, he is innocent. The kids aren’t, but he is.


32 posted on 05/31/2009 8:07:24 PM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 51773photo
You want a photo? Here it is.

WARNING: POSSIBLY DISTURBING IMAGE (FOR PRO-LIFERS).

YOU PRO-ABORTS WILL FIND IT GRATIFYING.

THESE little ones had grandparents somewhere who WILL NEVER KNOW THEM. The sadness of that should overwhelm us all.

Time to stop sugar-coating this subject. The REAL reason the radical feminists NEED abortion on demand is so they can remain sexually promiscuous and, should the pill or their other contraceptive technique fail them, they can simply have the “thing” scraped or sucked out.

This shot was taken by a pro-life activist behind an abortuary. But those aren’t human babies. The One has told us so.

Photobucket

ALL HAIL “THE ONE!”

33 posted on 05/31/2009 8:09:18 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: 51773photo
because, in the eyes of the law..

Which law would that be? The same law that says it was alright for him to murder babies?

If that's the case I'll quote some Shakespeare and say "The law is an ass."

This creep got what was coming to him.

34 posted on 05/31/2009 8:09:47 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Melas
call for a swift execution if he’s convicted.

I'm pro-life. That means no abortion, no euthanasia, and no death penalty. Also, no murdering of abortionist if there are peaceful means of stopping his or her actions (Just War Theory).
35 posted on 05/31/2009 8:14:42 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: Mr. Peabody

>Talk about late term!

You talk about Dr. Tiller’s relatively premature death, right? /s


36 posted on 05/31/2009 8:38:17 PM PDT by pobeda1945
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To: BigSkyFreeper; Anita1
But - What no one is talking about - conspicuously - are the unborn bables. [Anita1]

Do the math: Murdering one abortion doctor will not bring back to life the 43 million babies that have been aborted since Roe v. Wade was made law of the land. [BigSkyFreeper]

Question: How do you know, BigSky, that Anita1 is talking about past tense aborted babies? (I mean, I couldn't tell that from her comment)

I mean, how do you know she wasn't addressing with equal or primary focus present and future unborn babies at risk?

37 posted on 05/31/2009 9:39:53 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 51773photo; Lurker
because, in the eyes of the law, he is innocent. The kids aren’t, but he is.

Come on, ya gotta do better than that in your response to Lurker. (I mean, in the eyes of 1945 German law, Hitler & his minions were "innocent")

38 posted on 05/31/2009 9:42:02 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: rawcatslyentist
Too bad the BTK guy is already behind bars. Tiller was just the ultimate pedophile BTK, he liked em real young.

(Note: Both the BTK killer & Tiller were leaders in ELCA Kansas churches)

39 posted on 05/31/2009 9:43:32 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 51773photo

I am PERSONALLY opposed to killing baby murders but I don’t want to impose MY morality on others.


40 posted on 05/31/2009 9:48:26 PM PDT by emotionalcripple
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To: Melas

Really? Since when did the liberal media Ever give a good image to prolifers? And did the ‘masses’ believe their hateful description of prolifers?

And - That was Before this Tiller killing!

A good image Comes From the people who are supposed to be working in their own churches and public areas to educate people with the ‘Right’ Image!

When was the last time you heard in a church a sermon about abortion - Few churches Ever mention it - And their prolife members do not bring the subject up.

So who is to blame for the poor image of prolifers?

Also - Let me see . . .

If one child was in a burning building . . .would it be worth saving?

The act of killing Tiller - the killer was not right -

But there ARE babies that will not die by his hand anymore.

That IS the bottom line - or do you also believe that One child is not worth saving?

Note: I do not Ever advocate violence - especially in the womb!


41 posted on 06/01/2009 6:14:06 AM PDT by Anita1 ( "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last." Luke 13:30)
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To: Colofornian; BigSkyFreeper

Yes - I was talking about the Present babies that were scheduled for murder by the abortionists’ hand -

Or the Possible future babies!

I was Not taking about the babies who were already dead!


42 posted on 06/01/2009 6:40:23 AM PDT by Anita1 ( "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last." Luke 13:30)
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