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AP's Borenstein Reports: Winds 'seems to be dying down...the cause may be global warming'
Climate Depot ^ | June 10, 2009 | Marc Morano

Posted on 06/10/2009 9:15:27 AM PDT by ClimateDepot.com

Associated Press science reporter Seth Borenstein reported on June 10, 2009 that global warming may be causing the winds to die down in the U.S.

Borenstein's article, titled "Not so windy: Research suggests winds dying down" reports: The wind, a favorite power source of the green energy movement, seems to be dying down across the United States. And the cause, ironically, may be global warming-the very problem wind power seeks to address.

Borenstein also noted: "Several outside experts mostly agree that there are signs that wind speed is decreasing and that global warming is the likely culprit." The article continues: "[The study] raises a new side effect of global warming that hasn't been looked into before." [Editor's Note: Yes, this does appear to be an alleged "new side effect" of man-made global warming. For a complete list of alleged impacts of warming see here: A complete list of things caused by global warming - Perhaps this is why a top Japanese scientist recently compared global warming claims to "astrology." ]

Borenstein's article continues: In global warming, the poles warm more and faster than the rest of the globe, and temperature records, especially in the Arctic, show this. That means the temperature difference between the poles and the equator shrinks and with it the difference in air pressure in the two regions. Differences in barometric pressure are a main driver in strong winds. Lower pressure difference means less wind. [End AP article excerpt.]

But Geophysicist Dr. David Deming, associate professor of arts and sciences at the University of Oklahoma who has published numerous peer-reviewed research articles, challenged the new study in an exclusive interview with Climate Depot.

"Wait a minute! Isn't a mainstay of global warming alarmism the claim that global warming will produce greater numbers of more intense storms?" Deming told Climate Depot on June 10, 2009.

"How can they have more intense storms from the same effect that is lessening winds? They appear to be claiming that global warming will simultaneously increase and decrease wind velocities," Deming said. "For thousands of years, philosophers and theologians have concluded that not even God could create a logical contradiction, such as allowing something to simultaneously exist and non-exist," he added.

To his credit, Borenstein did note the many flaws and lack of data associated with the study's claims. "That information doesn't provide the definitive proof that science requires to connect reduced wind speeds to global warming, the authors said," Borenstein reported. [Editor's Note: Borenstein has slightly improved his balance in global warming reporting in recent times, despite a woeful history.

See: 1) AP's Borenstein in a PANIC: 'Obama left with little time to curb global warming'...'cooling trend illustrates how fast the world is warming' - December 14, 2008

2) Scientists Denounce AP's Borenstein For Hysterical Global Warming Article Claiming - December 15, 2008

3) Kudos to AP's Seth Borenstein for writing the most balanced of all the media's articles about this new Antarctic study - January 21, 2009

4) Two dozen prominent scientists denounce AP's Borenstein's article promoting sea level fears in the year 2100 - September 24, 2007

5) AP's Borenstein excludes scientists and peer-reviewed studies countering claims of allegedly 'melting' Antarctic - March 27, 2008

6) AP's BORENSTEIN INCORRECTLY CLAIMS SCIENTISTS PRAISE GORE'S MOVIE - June 27, 2006

7) AP's Borenstein inaccurately described scientist as "one of the few remaining scientists skeptical of the global warming harm caused by industries that burn fossil fuels' - July 27, 2006 ]

In his June 10, 2009 global warming wind article, Borenstein also wrote: "The idea that winds may be slowing is still a speculative one, and scientists disagree whether that is happening... Still, the study, which will be published in August in the peer-reviewed Journal of Geophysical Research, is preliminary. There are enough questions that even the authors say it's too early to know if this is a real trend or not."

Borenstein also cited Real Climate global warming activists in the article.

The new study "demonstrates, rather conclusively in my mind, that average and peak wind speeds have decreased over the U.S. in recent decades," said Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University. A naysayer is Gavin Schmidt, a NASA climate scientist in New York who said the results conflict with climate models that show no effect from global warming. He also doubts that any decline in the winds that might be occurring has much of an effect on wind power. [ For complete AP article go here: ]

Related Media Links: Wash. Post reporting makes progress! Article concedes sea level computer model 'predictions could be flawed or flat wrong' - June 9, 2009 NYT and Reporter Revkin Issue 'Correction' – Admit 'Error' in Front Page Global Warming Article Touted By Gore! NYT's Revkin: 'lowers himself to the level of debate we're used to seeing from the likes of George Monbiot' Geologist Chides Revkin of New York Times for 'Strange, Silly' Climate Article - April 23, 2009 UK's Lord Monckton continues attack on NYT's Revkin for 'mendacious article' Lord Monckton accuses NYT's Revkin of 'deliberate misrepresentation' in climate article Gore Mouthing-Off About Make-Believe Madoffs More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

Andrew Revkin's attempt to smear skeptics detailed! – March 10, 2009

Update: More Revkin Woes - Was Climatologist Christy accurately quoted in NYT? - March 11, 2009

Challenge to Andrew Revkin of NYT From Marc Morano – January 16, 2009

CBS Newsman Charles Osgood A Climate Skeptic? Questions Whether Quiet Sun May 'Counteract' Global Warming - April 21, 2009

CBS News reporter compares global warming skeptics to be the equivalent of “Holocaust deniers.” – 2006

Scientists Counter AP Article Promoting Computer Model Climate Fears - September 24, 2007

Newsweek's Climate Editorial Screed Violates Basic Standards of Journalism - August 5, 2007

Media Covering Up UN Global Warming Report's Political Agenda, Senator Inhofe Charges - January 31, 2007

“Hot & Cold Media Spin: A Challenge To Journalists Who Cover Global Warming” -September 25, 2006

ABCNEWS Climate Reporter: 'Scientists tell us civilization as we know it is over'

“I don't like the word 'Balance''- Says ABC News Global Warming Reporter – October 30, 2006

New York Times Op-Ed Heat Wave Hype Melts Under Scrutiny NY Times Aug 2006 oped

BROKAW'S OBJECTIVITY COMPROMISED IN GLOBAL WARMING SPECIAL – July 11, 2006

AP INCORRECTLY CLAIMS SCIENTISTS PRAISE GORE'S MOVIE June 27, 2006

CNN Anchor Cited Fictional Hollywood Global Warming Movie, The Day After Tomorrow, to Defend His Science Reporting – October 3, 2006

Newsweek Admits Error on 70's Predictions of Coming Ice Age - October 24, 2006

US SENATE GLOBAL WARMING MEDIA HEARING EXPOSED ALARMIST MEDIA - December 6, 2006


TOPICS: Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming
Also see this Climate Depot media article: Wash. Post reporting makes progress! Article concedes sea level computer model 'predictions could be flawed or flat wrong' - June 9, 2009

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1245/Wash-Post-reporting-makes-progress-Article-concedes-sea-level-computer-model-predictions-could-be-flawed-or-flat-wrong

1 posted on 06/10/2009 9:15:28 AM PDT by ClimateDepot.com
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To: ClimateDepot.com

Global warming causes me to pee, I think. It seems to cause everything else.


2 posted on 06/10/2009 9:17:18 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

lulz.

More junk science....


3 posted on 06/10/2009 9:17:42 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ClimateDepot.com

Freeman Dyson at Princeton says all the computer models are incorrect.

He used to hand around with some guy named Albert Einstein.


4 posted on 06/10/2009 9:18:21 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: ClimateDepot.com
Global Warming causes the number (and severity) of hurricanes to increase, and also causes a generalized decrease in wind.

Uh huh.

5 posted on 06/10/2009 9:18:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: ClimateDepot.com
These "Global Warming" nuts have this propaganda thing down perfectly...

Warming weather = Global Warming
Cooling weather = Global Warming

Less snow = Global Warming
More snow = Global Warming

More rain = Global Warming
less rain = Global Warming

More wind = Global Warming
Less wind = Global Warming

More floods = Global Warming
Less floods = Global Warming

How can they lose?

6 posted on 06/10/2009 9:19:26 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: ClimateDepot.com

What about all the hot air blowing out of Washington and the other end of Al Gore????


7 posted on 06/10/2009 9:19:30 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Dallas59
Yes, hot air out Algore's rear.

Actually, the Article should suggest Global Cooling since that is the cycle we should be going through. The NY times has flipped between warming and cooling. Why shouldn't the AP follow in the NYTs wake?

8 posted on 06/10/2009 9:22:16 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: ClimateDepot.com

I saw a report the other day that stated: “Winds are dying down and may be causing global warming”. {: /


9 posted on 06/10/2009 9:22:36 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Big_Monkey
How can they lose?

If temperatures drop.

Thus, it's now "climate change" instead of "global warming"

10 posted on 06/10/2009 9:24:45 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

“Several outside experts mostly agree that there are signs that wind speed is decreasing and that global warming is the likely culprit.”

I think they might mean “global cooling”, since that’s what’s actually happening. And, that might even make some sense (less total energy in the system).

I’m looking forward to a nice, average to below average hurricane season here this year! =:-D


11 posted on 06/10/2009 9:25:44 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: xcamel; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ping


12 posted on 06/10/2009 9:27:41 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: EGPWS

“Thus, it’s now “climate change” instead of “global warming”

Fortunately, even given the jaw-dropping level of ignorance in the world today, that is an indefensible position. Every draconian, extreme, and expensive measure being proposed is, by every admission, to combat “global warming”.

If things are really going the other way, most people are quick to understand natural variability, and that CO2 must not be much of a climate driver.

Truthfully, the wheels are falling off the “global warming” bus, unless they get some really good climate news in the near future. ;-)


13 posted on 06/10/2009 9:28:12 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: ClimateDepot.com

If Global Warming causes something to last more than 4 hours, call your doctor.


14 posted on 06/10/2009 9:30:28 AM PDT by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: Dallas59
Yes, hot air out Algore's rear.

Actually, the Article should suggest Global Cooling since that is the cycle we should be going through. The NY times has flipped between warming and cooling. Why shouldn't the AP follow in the NYTs wake?

15 posted on 06/10/2009 9:31:38 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: PreciousLiberty

Most experts agree...taking Oreo cookies apart...taste better than eating them clinging together.

Most experts agree...ice on a hot afternoon...does cool you off...but for no scientific reason.

Most experts agree...a gal in a tube top can short-change you nine times out of ten and you would never notice.

Most experts agree...a scientist is a guy with a real science degree. Most experts agree that a guy with a Earth sciences degree...isn’t a real scientist.

Most experts agree...flipper was more talented than Gentle Ben.

Most experts agree that living in a dry county in Alabama is pure hell.

Most experts agree that any news media guys that says “focused” more than once in a five minute period...probably doesn’t know what focused means.

Most experts agree that Bill Russell was a better center than Wilt the Stilt.

Most experts will agree that climate change is nifty....even if it changes back to normal...then it only doubles the chance of going back to severe climate change again.


16 posted on 06/10/2009 9:34:30 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: reaganaut1; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; CygnusXI; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

17 posted on 06/10/2009 9:35:45 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

After seeing it came from the AP I ruled out any truth to it.


18 posted on 06/10/2009 9:40:29 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: ClimateDepot.com

There is a list out there that gives all the global warming predictions. Most of them are contradictory - more storms, fewer storms - hotter, colder - famine, food glut, etc.


19 posted on 06/10/2009 9:43:49 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Big_Monkey

“How can they lose?”

The same way that the “o” can by claiming they’ve created or saved 155,000 jobs. IOW, they can’t!


20 posted on 06/10/2009 9:43:55 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: ClimateDepot.com

Let’s see if I’ve got it right: global warming causes increased hurricane and storm activity, but it also causes winds to slow down.


21 posted on 06/10/2009 9:50:04 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Big_Monkey
"How can they lose?"

It's like Obama's "save or create jobs" claims - unfalsifiable and unprovable.
22 posted on 06/10/2009 9:51:59 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: ClimateDepot.com; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; ...
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



23 posted on 06/10/2009 9:55:59 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: cranked

Agree never mind sun cyclee,earth orbit cycle,moon orbit cycle.


24 posted on 06/10/2009 10:18:15 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: ClimateDepot.com
The new study "demonstrates, rather conclusively in my mind, that average and peak wind speeds have decreased over the U.S. in recent decades," said Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University.

You would think Mann would be hiding under a rock somewhere after his Hockey Stick fiasco.

I guess there is no shame among the true believers.

25 posted on 06/10/2009 10:32:17 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Big_Monkey

My chickens ain’t laying eggs-— Global Warming!
My sheep ain’t mating-— Global Warming!


26 posted on 06/10/2009 11:06:37 AM PDT by dennisw (Weakness is a Crime! Don't be a Criminal - Bernarr MacFadden)
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