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10 Fastest Military Aircraft in the World
notoriouslyconservative.com ^ | 06 12 09 | Notoriously Conservative

Posted on 06/12/2009 7:41:25 AM PDT by Notoriously Conservative

10. F-14A Tomcat

Speed: Mach 2.34

Altitude: 58,000+ feet

Primary Function: Carrier-based multi-role strike fighter

Contractor: Grumman

Crew: Two (pilot and radar intercept officer)

Unit Cost: $38 million

Powerplant: F-14A: Twin Pratt & Whitney TF30-P-41A turbofan engines (20,900 pounds of thrust w/ afterburner)F-14B/D: Twin General Electric F110-GE-400 turbofan engines (29,080-high/27,948 average pounds each w/ maximum afterburner)

Length: 61 feet 9 inches (18.6 meters)

Wingspan: 64 feet (19 meters) unswept, 38 feet (11.4 meters) swept

Height: 16 feet (4.8 meters)

Empty: 41,780 lb (18951 kg) -- F-14D

Maximum Takeoff: 72,900 pounds (32,805 kg)

Range: Deck launched intercept F-14A - 915 nautical miles radius with two 280-gallon drop tanks jettisoned when emptyDeck launched intercept F-14D - 656 nautical miles radius combat range with two 280-gallon drop tanksF-14D - With two 280-gallon drop tanks retained, 1,591 nautical miles ferry range

Armament: Up to 13,000 pounds of: 6 AIM-7 Sparrows, 4 AIM-9 Sidewinder, 6 AIM-54 Phoenix, MK-82 (500 lbs.)4 MK-83 (1,000 lbs.), 4 MK-84 (2,000 lbs.), MK-20 cluster bomb, 4 GBU-10, LGBGBU-12 MK-82 LGB, 4 GBU-16 MK-83 LGB4 GBU-24 MK-84 LGB, one MK-61A1 Vulcan 20mm cannon

9. Su-27 Flanker

Speed: Mach 2.35

Altitude: 59,055 feet

Primary Function: Air superiority fighter

Contractor: Sukhoi

Crew: One

Unit Cost: N/A

Powerplant: Two NPO Saturn AL-31F turbofans each rated at 17,857 lb (79.43 kN) dry thrust and 27,557 lb st (122.58 kN) with afterburning

Length: 71 ft, 11.5 in (21.935 m)

Wingspan: 48 ft, 2.75 in (14.7 m)

Height: 19 ft, 5.5 in (5.932 m)

Empty: 39,021 lb (17700 kg)

Maximum Takeoff: 66,138 lb (30000 kg) -- Flanker-B

Range: N/A

Rate of Turn: 22.5° / sec Sustained28.5° / sec Instant

Armament: One 30 mm GSh-301cannon, up to 6,000 kg payload of missiles and bombs including AA-10

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: aircraft; military; planes

1 posted on 06/12/2009 7:41:25 AM PDT by Notoriously Conservative
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I would like to suggest that the Foxbat 25B performance is vastly overstated and the SR-71 performance is vastly understated.


2 posted on 06/12/2009 7:48:46 AM PDT by G Larry (ObamaCare = "DYING IN LINE!")
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I guess the DOD never released figures on the SR-71’s cost...


3 posted on 06/12/2009 7:49:52 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: wastedyears

Yeah, I couldn’t find them


4 posted on 06/12/2009 7:50:41 AM PDT by Notoriously Conservative (http://www.notoriouslyconservative.com)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I am embarrassed to say this, but I am a former military pilot, and said to myself “no way, the F-22 and F-35 should be on this list.”

But the F-35 is 1.25 and F-22 is 2.25 (albeit with supercruise at 1.8 or so).

Very surprising to me, and I’ve only been out of the “loop” for a handful of years.

The F-35 is painfully slow.


5 posted on 06/12/2009 7:51:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Don’t forget, the F-35 is a VTOL aircraft; I would imagine there are top speed limitations with that design.


6 posted on 06/12/2009 7:51:56 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: wastedyears

Only in one configuration.

I am hoping the public figures are sandbagged.


7 posted on 06/12/2009 7:52:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

I didn’t know there are multiple configurations.

Which one is Navy?


8 posted on 06/12/2009 7:54:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: wastedyears

The carrier version and the VTOL, I suppose would both be Navy, or at least Navy/Marine.


9 posted on 06/12/2009 7:55:33 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

What I never understood is why the USAF dumped the SR71 but kept the older and slower U2?


10 posted on 06/12/2009 8:00:22 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Mainstream Media cheered: Ascension of Castro, Chavez and now Obama.)
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To: OldArmy52

Perhaps the SR71 was cost prohibitive.


11 posted on 06/12/2009 8:01:15 AM PDT by Notoriously Conservative (http://www.notoriouslyconservative.com)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

“Fastest Military Aircraft in the World”? ...that implies the word “today”.

The F-14 is retired.

The SR-71 is no longer flown by the military; last I heard, NASA had 2.


12 posted on 06/12/2009 8:10:32 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: Nabber
The F-14 is retired.

Not quite

13 posted on 06/12/2009 8:15:17 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a competent small government conservative is good enough for government work)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Cool SR-71 video.
http://www.greatdanepromilitary.com/SR-71/index.htm


14 posted on 06/12/2009 8:17:59 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

123,000 feet. Sure.


15 posted on 06/12/2009 8:18:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: G Larry
Viktor Belenko claimed that the Mig 25 had quite a few problems at high speed. I remember he claimed that the missiles vibrated when he approached mach 1.5 (or close).
16 posted on 06/12/2009 8:20:09 AM PDT by Loud Mime (I've lost count: how many jobs has the bailout saved again?)
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To: OldArmy52

You must understand that the SR71 ate fuel;
The U2 is more economical and better for the
environment!

17 posted on 06/12/2009 8:23:15 AM PDT by Loud Mime (I've lost count: how many jobs has the bailout saved again?)
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To: OldArmy52

I don’t personally know, but I assume satellites or drones could do most of what the SR-71 could do.

I suspect he U-2 was relatively cheap to operate, relatively easy to operate “forward,” and all that was needed for certain less-than-tech savy opponents.

Basically the same reason my father drove a VW bug to and from our little farm outside TelAviv from 1968 until about a year ago. It worked, it was cheap, it had the same ground clearance as a truck, and we already owned it.


18 posted on 06/12/2009 8:25:28 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Nabber

“Fastest Military Aircraft in the World”? ...that implies the word “today”.

How on earth does that imply the word today? It isn’t titled “Fastest Active Military Aircraft in the World Today”


19 posted on 06/12/2009 8:27:04 AM PDT by Notoriously Conservative (http://www.notoriouslyconservative.com)
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To: Loud Mime

Fuel is a big deal.

Better loiter time is how P-51s shot down German jets.


20 posted on 06/12/2009 8:27:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: G Larry

The SR-71’s speed was never fully exploited. Fact is the pilots had to watch their throttle settings very closely as they could easily accelerate to speeds at which the friction-heating would cause the airframe or windscreen to fail.


21 posted on 06/12/2009 8:30:36 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tallguy
SR-71 Armament: Three Hughes AIM-47A missiles

Did we ever get the SR-71 to successfully fire these missiles at speed?

22 posted on 06/12/2009 8:38:41 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

BAE Lightning was very, very fast.


23 posted on 06/12/2009 8:42:06 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Don’t forget the advent of the UAV. We can flood the sky with them at much lower altitudes/cost and we don’t care if they get shot down. Their loiter times are tremendous too. That plus better satellites pretty much makes the SR-71 obsolete.

That’s ok with me, lets the gov spend money on real pilots like me!!! (MAJ, US Army, UH-60 Blackhawk driver). We’re always gonna need helicopters my friends.


24 posted on 06/12/2009 8:43:08 AM PDT by strider44
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To: G Larry
Yes, The SR-71 made the Kessel run in one fortnight.;-)

There is a story somewhere about a pilot who pushed an SR-71 to the max to outrun some interceptors. It is here on FR but I cannot remember the title.

25 posted on 06/12/2009 8:49:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Ran into an Air Force test pilot in a rest area about 20 years ago. He told me at Edwards they were cleaning up some F-4’s and getting mach 2.6+ from them, albeit not in combat mock up.


26 posted on 06/12/2009 8:49:41 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: Notoriously Conservative
You left off Aurora. Ground sources have tracked it a OVER 3.7 Mach.
27 posted on 06/12/2009 8:50:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: mad_as_he$$

And those alleged ground sources actually confirmed that what they speed measured was an actual Aurora?


28 posted on 06/12/2009 8:57:19 AM PDT by cranked
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To: G Larry

I thought the Blackbird had been replaced....


29 posted on 06/12/2009 8:57:42 AM PDT by the long march
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes, I’m quite familiar with his detailed recounting.

Not as well recorded are the instances the SR-71 was used for ground tests in prep for tracking Shuttle re-entry.


30 posted on 06/12/2009 9:00:34 AM PDT by G Larry (ObamaCare = "DYING IN LINE!")
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To: texas booster
SR-71 Armament: Three Hughes AIM-47A missiles
Did we ever get the SR-71 to successfully fire these missiles at speed?

As the SR-71 couldn't carry those missiles - the mission bays being different to those of the YF-12 version - I'd say: no.

The YF-12 made six firings of the AIM-47

31 posted on 06/12/2009 9:01:40 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a competent small government conservative is good enough for government work)
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To: the long march

Not officially....
But I suspect you’re referring to the “Aurora”.


32 posted on 06/12/2009 9:01:48 AM PDT by G Larry (ObamaCare = "DYING IN LINE!")
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To: OldArmy52
What I never understood is why the USAF dumped the SR71 but kept the older and slower U2?

It's not all about speed.

33 posted on 06/12/2009 9:18:34 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

That is why.


34 posted on 06/12/2009 9:19:32 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Oztrich Boy; texas booster

I defer to Oztrich on the specifics. If I remember Ben Rich’s book about the Lockheed “Skunkworks”, he mentioned that the YF-12 managed a look-down/shoot-down kill of a drone target years before such a capability was actually fielded.

Kelly Johnson, Lockheed’s chief designer, was pushing high-altitude/ultra-high speed interceptors while the USAF was developing what would become the F-111. His idea was to show the vulnerability of the USAF’s low-level penetration concept and the continued advantages of high-altitude. Apparently, this didn’t go over well with some of the Brass.


35 posted on 06/12/2009 9:20:43 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: cranked
Remember Aurora does not exist. ;-)

I spend a great deal of time near Area 51 and know many of the watchers. I am not a watcher but I have seen things that are very unusual in the region. The watchers have various waypoints laid out and from certain places they monitor traffic. Several of the routes are correlated with commercial traffic speed(s) that are reported by regular air radio traffic. The upshot is that there is somethimg that is capable of near Mach 5 that flys over the area in fairly regular intervals.

36 posted on 06/12/2009 9:25:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I think the altitude ratings for the MIG-25’s are way too high. One’s a little over 100,000 and one is about 125,000 ft. That seems unrealistic. Since 100,000 ft is considered about where the atmosphere pretty much ends and space begins.


37 posted on 06/12/2009 9:30:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

They should set a high speed camera along their normal watching routes and see if they can get a good frame of something flying by.


38 posted on 06/12/2009 9:33:04 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The may have hit 120,000 feet, but it wasn’t in controlled flight. They would have had to install a reaction control system like the NF-104 used.

It still seems unlikely, since the NF-104 shut off the jet engine and switched to rocket power somewhere between 70 and 80 thousand feet.


39 posted on 06/12/2009 9:39:27 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Secret Agent Man
I think the altitude ratings for the MIG-25’s are way too high. One’s a little over 100,000 and one is about 125,000 ft.

They might be able to zoom climb to such altitude, but I doubt that they could stay there. NASA had a heavily modified F-104 with a rocket motor in the tail and reactive control jets for steering at such altitudes (over 90,000 ft). The air gets so thin that conventional control surfaces cease to work.

The USAF did an anti-missile test with a special missile slung under a test-modified F-15C. They zoomed to some unreal altitude before weapons release. IIRC, it wasn't as high as those quoted for the Foxbats.

40 posted on 06/12/2009 9:55:08 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Notoriously Conservative

OK, by that logic, Fastest Military Aircraft in the World includes the P-51, if we’re talking about the Fastest Military Aircraft in the World in 1945.

But we’re not, are we.


41 posted on 06/12/2009 11:52:17 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: Secret Agent Man
I suspect they have. That world has gone kind of secretive. They got too much attention in the 90’s and did not like some of it so they went quiet.
42 posted on 06/12/2009 11:56:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: Oztrich Boy

Quite.

Iran’s F-14s are grounded for parts.....


43 posted on 06/12/2009 12:51:59 PM PDT by Nabber
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To: Tallguy

MiG-25:

The Ye-266 was a stripped-down MiG-25 prototype used to set several speed and altitude records from 1965 to 1967; the
Ye-266M designation was used for the Ye-155M to set new speed and altitude records in 1975, as the Ye-266 had done previously. Absolute altitude: 123,524 ft (37,650 m): World Record.

But you can’t call the -266 a “military aircraft”....


44 posted on 06/12/2009 12:55:06 PM PDT by Nabber
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