Skip to comments.Interesting Story on Obama's Grandfather
Posted on 06/14/2009 9:14:36 AM PDT by mrmeangenes
This post , on the Orly Taitz website,claims Stanley Dunham,Obama's maternal grandfather was a Communist.
A quick bit of research indicates he was an Army supply sergeant during WWII, and that after the war,he was a shoe salesman.
I have found nothing, so far, to suggest he was a Communist.
Perhaps one of our readers has details.
“His was an American character, one typical of men of his generation, men who embraced the notion of freedom and individualism and the open road without always knowing its price, and whose enthusiasms could as easily lead to the cowardice of McCarthyism as to the heroics of World War II. Men who were both dangerous and promising precisely because of their fundamental innocence; men prone, in the end, to disappointment.” - Barack Obama, Dreams of My Father
BARACK H. OBAMA: THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY
Copyright © Webster Griffin Tarpley, 2008
All Rights Reserved
this is an interesting read. i was doing a search on obama’s early years and this popped up. looks like all 440 pages are digitized.
JDno one of these people should be able to give you the research links you ask about.
IIRC His grandparents attended “The Little Red” church on Mercer Island and were friends with known communists in HI.
I have heard that all 4 grandparents were commies
not that big of a deal, is it? his father was a socialist. or several of his papers were extremely favorable to socialist economics, at any rate.
Yeah, really none of the stuff about his relatives matters. One thing is clear, HE is certainly a Socialist at best, and would probably be right at home leading a Communist nation.
“His was an American character, one typical of men of his generation, men who embraced the notion of freedom and individualism and the open road without always knowing its price, and whose enthusiasms could as easily lead to the cowardice of McCarthyism as to the heroics of World War II.”
Thought the quote was interesting for its appraisal of “American Character”...kind of sounds like stupid, unaware, walking down the road idiots capable of awful things like...trying to root out communism?
His drinkin’ buddy, Frank Marshall Davis, was a member of the CPUSA — If Stanley Armour wasn’t a communist, he was a fellow traveler..
The 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified Davis as a CPUSA member. What’s more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
That is not Orly Taitz's website. She had it there for a month or so while her new sight was getting ready. The webmaster has just forgotten to change the Title in the browser in his redirect page.. You only see it if you go to www.repubx.com which is the rediriect page . If you go to the actual page 18.104.22.168/blogger , you will see he changed the title there. It is Repubx.com, not Defend Our Freedoms. Orly's site is :
I didnt think G*d had grandparents.
His maternal grandfather embraced leftism and encouraged little Barry to embrace it as well as a means of being “authentically” black. Read Steve Sailer’s excellent book “America’s Half-Blood Prince”
“I didnt think G*d had grandparents.”
Sure...just check his COLB...
Pray for America
His grandfather was an American character, as distinguished from Obama, who could care less about America or its history.
His grandparents were close to Frank Marshal Davis and he was Obama’s mentor.
What papers were those ?
The guy was a shoe salesman.
We may never know. After all, Obama’s typical white person Grandma died under still secret and mysterious circumstances.
Only the fish off the coast of Hawaii know. Maybe ‘chelle and the kids know...oh wait....they never visited her.
All that matters is that O is a commie.
All shoe salesmen are left wing extremists who we should crack down on.
The guy #7 is talking about is Obama Sr. He never sold shoes. You are talking about Obama’s maternal grandfather. He sold shoes.
I remember reading somewhere that the gpa was the one to intro the dear leader to Frank Marshall Davis so that gives some credibility and weight to the claim that gpa was a fricken commie.
It is well known that FMD and Stanley Dunham (gramps) were best friends and drinking buddies to the end.
His grandfather was very good friends with Davis in Hawaii. Birds of a feather...
Al Bundy wasn’t a left wing extremist.
Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama
He knew Stan real well, said Dawna Weatherly-Williams, a close friend of Mr Davis Theyd play Scrabble and drink and crack jokes and crack jokes and argue. Frank always won and he was always very braggadocio about it too. It was all jocular. They didnt get polluted drunk. And Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together.
While his mother was in Indonesia during part of his teenage years, Mr Obama lived with his white grandparents. Mrs Weatherly-Williams said that the poet was first introduced to the future Democratic presidential candidate in 1970 at the age of 10.
Stan had been promising to bring Barry by because we all had that in common - Franks kids were half-white, Stans grandson was half-black and my son was half-black. We all had that in common and we all really enjoyed it. We got a real kick out of reality.
We will never know all that Al was really up to.
The founder of “No Ma’am” couldn’t be a left wing extremist!
He did have that basement of his...
LoL, this is very, very true.
Grandpa was a “furniture salesman”. In Kansas, the “furniture store” he was employed at appears to have been a secret meeting ground for underground American Communists. The FBI began to surveil these types of establishments.
When Grandpa and others got wind of the FBI watching, he hurriedly relocated to an island near Seattle, where he attended a hidden Communist church known as the “Little red chuch on the hill”.
While in Washington state, he continued his “furniture salesman” job, and Communist headquarters was around the block.
Stanley Ann Dunham’s teachers in Washington state were also Communists. I’ll get their names to you later.
When the FBI got close again, Grandpa moved the family to Hawaii, where he again took on a Communist “furniture salesman” position, and met Frank Marshall Davis.
The facts in Washington state I’ll have to clarify for you. They lived in 2 different places there, in short amount of time between.
Great research! I knew there were rumors out there but I couldn’t find any hard evidents.
I got some of that about the “little red church”. The Unitarians did get some FBI attention during the Vietnam war years - for excellent reasons.
I’d sure like to see some verification of the secret meeting place furniture store, etc.
” And Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together.
Could it have been his grandfather who first introduced Obama to drugs ??
My grandfather used to take us fishing , sometimes we’d get an ice cream cone afterwards...
Stanley Dunham moves family to Mercer Island, joins Unitarian church, known as ‘the little red church on the hill’ and enrolls Ann in school know for ‘its hotbed of Marxist teachers’:
The Dunhams from El Dorado to a bigger opportunity in 1955 — to a large store in downtown Seattle called Standard-Grunbaum Furniture at the corner of 2nd Avenue and Pine Street. “First in Furniture, Second at Pine,” read the Yellow Pages ad in the Seattle telephone directory.
Seattle in the 1950s had no Space Needle, no Microsoft, no Starbucks. Mercer Island, now a pricey home to corporate luminaries such as Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, was then “a rural, idyllic place,” said Elaine Johnson, who remembered summers with “sleepovers along the water in sleeping bags. It was so safe.” The island was quiet, politically conservative and all white. As a suburb, Mercer Island was still in its infancy. The 1950 census counted about 5,000 people, almost all white. Sanctioned deer hunts had stopped just a few years before the Dunhams arrived.
But consistent with the 1950s, there were undercurrents of turmoil. In 1955, the chairman of the Mercer Island school board, John Stenhouse, testified before the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party.
Madelyn and Stanley shed their Methodist and Baptist upbringing and began attending Sunday services at the East Shore Unitarian Church in nearby Bellevue.
“In the 1950s, this was sometimes known as ‘the little Red church on the hill,’” said Peter Luton, the church’s senior minister. Skepticism, the kind that Stanley embraced and passed on to his daughter, was welcomed here.
“She was not a standard-issue girl. You don’t start out life as a girl with a name like Stanley without some sense you are not ordinary.”
At Mercer High School, two teachers — Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman — generated regular parental thunderstorms by teaching their students to challenge societal norms and question all manner of authority. Foubert, who died recently, taught English. His texts were cutting edge: “Atlas Shrugged,” “The Organization Man,” “The Hidden Persuaders,” “1984” and the acerbic writings of H.L. Mencken. Wichterman taught philosophy.
The hallway between the two classes was known as “anarchy alley,” and students pondered the challenging notions of Wichterman’s teachings, including such philosophers as Sartre and Kierkegaard. He also touched the societal third rail of the 1950s: He questioned the existence of God. And he didn’t stop there. “I had them read ‘The Communist Manifesto,’ and the parents went nuts,” said Wichterman, adding that parents also didn’t want any discussions about “anything to do with sex,” religion and theology. The parental protests were known as “mothers’ marches.”
Stanley Dunham had wanted a son, so when his daughter was born, he named her Stanley Ann Dunham, after himself.
Known as Anna, Obama’s mother, was a strong-willed, unconventional member of the Mercer Island High School graduating class of 1960. She spent 8th grade through high school there. Here is her application for a Social Security card, submitted when she was 16. Stanley Ann Dunham was issued Social Security number 535-40-8522.
Curious and precocious, Anna was greatly influenced by left-wing and communist teachers in the Mercer Island High School, who had the students read the philosophers Sartre and Kierkegaard, “The Communist Manifesto” and question the existence of God. Anna touted herself as an atheist.
Mercer Island High was a hotbed of pro-Marxist radical teachers. John Stenhouse, board member, testified before the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party USA and the school has a number of Marxists on its staff. Two teachers at this school, Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman, both Frankfurt School style Marxists, taught a critical theory curriculum to students which included; rejection of societal norms, attacks on Christianity, the traditional family, and assigned readings by Karl Marx. The hallway between Fouberts and Wichterman classrooms was called “anarchy ally.”
Susan Blake, a classmate and former city councilwoman from Mercer Island who long ago changed the infant Barack’s messy diaper, said of her friend: “Hers was a mind in full tilt.”
Anna gravitated toward an intellectual clique. According to former classmate Chip Wall, she caught foreign films at Seattle’s only art-house theater, the Ridgemont, and trekked to University District coffee shops like the Encore to talk about jazz, the value of learning from other cultures and the “very dull Eisenhower-ness of our parents.”
“We were critiquing America in those days in the same way we are today: The press is dumbed-down, education is dumbed down, people don’t know anything about geography or the rest of the world,” said Wall, who later taught at Mercer Island High and is now retired in Seattle.
A high school classmate described Anna as “a fellow traveler. . . . We were liberals before we knew what liberals were.”
The descriptive, “fellow traveler,” was first applied to non-communists who were inclined toward the views of the Communist Party by Leon Trotsky.
Barack Obama was born of Marxists; mentored by a communist writer and activist; spent his college days hanging around radical activists; worked as a radical community organizer, learning the radical tactics of the communist, Alinsky; attended a radical church; was introduced to Chicago politics by a communist in the home of another communist; and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and had radicals working on his campaign and in his administration.
The fact is, Obama has been around Marxists, of one kind or another, since the age of 12.
Stanley Dunham chose as Barack’s mentor a documented Communist:
Stanley Dunham, Obama’s grandfather, was friends with Davis, a bohemian libertine who drank heavily and loved jazz — both had roots reaching back to Kansas and had families of mixed races — and the black writer took an interest in Obama.
“Our grandfather ... thought (Frank) was a point of connection, a bridge if you will, to the larger African-American experience for my brother,” Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s half-sister, said during a recent interview.
Dunham and his grandson would spend evenings at Davis’s dilapidated home in Waikiki, Honolulu’s main tourist district. Davis, who had raised a family with a white wife, would read his poetry and share whiskey with Dunham, Obama recalled.
Dawna Weatherly-Williams, a friend of Davis’ who also lives in Honolulu, said Dunham wanted Obama to know that there were other children like him who were part black and part white, she said.
“Stan was real proud of that,” she said, adding that it was rare to see black men with white women at the time.
“He knew Stan real well. Theyd play Scrabble and drink and crack jokes and argue. Frank always won and he was always very braggadocio about it too. It was all jocular. They didnt get polluted drunk. And Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together.”
“Stan had been promising to bring Barry by because we all had that in common. Franks kids were half-white, Stans grandson was half-black and my son was half-black. We all had that in common and we all really enjoyed it. We got a real kick out of reality.”
Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s half-sister, told the Associated Press recently that her grandfather had seen Davis was “a point of connection, a bridge if you will, to the larger African-American experience for my brother”
And so, it all makes so much sense.
I read somewhere that Grandpa moved several times as you stated, and that he chose the particular location in WA state after it was featured in a magazine article as having “the reddest high school in America,” where the principal was a unrepentant commie/lefty, who was tolerated by the locals even in that era.
On that basis, Grandpa moved his family to that school district, so that his daughter could attend “the reddest high school in America.”
Cue the psycho music.
Great info at 35.
Orrrrrrrrrr she was really born a Stanley and had the whatchamacallit cut off and became an Ann and OhBooBoo is really a Madonna Jolie Pitt style adoptee from a Kenyan Peace Corp rugrat Camp !!!
Just a SWAG on my part......:o)
“We may never know. After all, Obamas typical white person Grandma died under still secret and mysterious circumstances.”
Mysterious circumstances??? She was 87 and had severe osteoporosis and cancer. How can that possibly be mysterious?
The school on Mercer Island, to which they sent Stanley Ann, was rather well known and “experimental,” too. They knew where they were going, just as they knew where they were going when they went to Hawaii. Frank Marshall Davis was not there by coincidence, just as Barack Obama did not go to Chicago by coincidence. They were and are part of a network, and remained comfortably within it all along, imho.
There’s always great information at The Obama File by our own FReeper, Beckwith.
Madelyn Dunham’s death was indeed mysterious:
Did Barack Obama conspire to fool the American public and
delay announcement of his grandmothers death until November 3,
the day before the election? Larry Sinclair called the Dunham
residence on October 24, 2008 and called me soon after. This
might seem implausible, however, given Obamas past of
consistent lies and deception, nothing would surprise me.
On Friday October 24, 2008 I placed two calls to the home of
Madelyn Dunham, in one of those calls I spoke with Obama
half-sister Maya Ng where Maya claimed Mrs. Dunham could not talk.
Recently Larry Sinclair contacted me to let me know that he had
reason to believe that Madelyn Dunham, Obamas grandmother had
actually died prior to November 3, 2008.
Larry Sinclair breaks the news
OBAMA, HALF-SISTER & HAWAII OFFICALS FALSIFY MADELYN DUNHAM DEATH RECORDS!
On October 21, 2008 Barack Obama announced that he would be suspending his
campaign after a rally in Indianapolis on Thursday morning, October 23,
2008 to fly to Hawaii to visit with his gravely ill grandmother. Barack
Obama further stated that Madelyn L. Dunham had recently been hospitalized
and was back at home after suffering a broken hip. Obama made it clear on
October 22, 2008 that there will be absolutely no video or photo ops
during my upcoming visit with my ailing grandmother, and I do not expect
my grandmother to make it to election day.
On Friday October 24, 2008 Michelle Obama during a campaign rally for her
husband claimed that I spoke with tutu last night and she is strong and
in good health.
On Friday October 24, 2008 I placed two calls to the home of Madelyn Dunham,
in one of those calls I spoke with Obama half-sister Maya Ng
where Maya claimed Mrs. Dunham could not talk.
On November 3, 2008 both the news media and Barack Obama announced that
Madelyn L. Dunham had passed away on that date. Mrs. Dunham was to have
celebrated her 89th birthday on the Sunday following Barack Obamas visit,
yet no one, not even Barack Obama stopped to wish his gravely ill
grandmother a Happy Birthday.
After first announcing that Madelyn Dunham had passed away in her sleep
on November 3, 2008 (conveniently the day before election day for the
sympathy vote) it was reported by Hawaii officials and then by Obama
half-sister Maya Ng that Mrs. Dunham had in fact passed away on November
2, 2008. Both reports it turns out are false and it has been reported that
Maya Ng and Hawaii officials knowingly and intentionally falsified death
records of Madelyn L. Dunham who had actually died prior to Barack Obama
arriving on Thursday October 23, 2008 for his claimed visit.
According to sources employed in the coroners office Madelyn Dunham died
on October 21, 2008 and was cremated on Friday October 24, 2008. It is
further claimed that the death records of Madelyn L Dunham were falsified
at the direct and specific request of Barack Obama and Maya Ng.
I have forwarded a letter to the Hawaii Attorney Generals office requesting
and investigation and forwarded the information received regarding the
falsifying of the death and cremation records of Madelyn L Dunham. If this
information is factual Barack Obama has demonstrated his total disregard
for any life, including the life of the woman who made it possible for him
to be a spoiled, drug using, closet bi/gay fraud. Furthermore the fact that
Michelle Obama knew and assisted in concealing this fraud along with the US
Secret Service assigned to protect Barack Obama makes them conspirators to
Today Barack Obama participated in the scattering of the ashes of Madelyn
L Dunham who he used and exploited.
I have one thing to say Barack, not everyone is willing to cover for your
lies and crimes. Now lets see if the Hawaii Attorney General is willing to
do their job or if that office is going to simply look the other way.
Larry Sinclair update
I do however stand by the post as being factual and truthful and the
individual who contacted me is believed to be employed by the Funeral Home
who took the Body of Madelyn Dunham from her residence after her death.
Madelyn Dunham according to sources was released from the hospital and sent
home at the specific request of Barack Obama and Maya Ng. Now people can
continue to accuse me of making shit up all they want, but let me make
one thing perfectly clear. I ask questions and obtain names and contact
information from every single person who contacts me with claims about
Barack Obama. With the amount of claims that have been made to me I have
published/reported a number that can be counted on one hand.
Lets look at something here. To specifically request that Madelyn Dunham
be released from the hospital as reported makes it very easy for Barack
Obama and Maya Ng to do exactly what has been alleged. Dying in the hospital
would establish a series of records certified and witness by many. Dying at
home drastically reduces the number of people involved in the death records.
I believe the information provided last night and I am in the process of
contacting the owners of the funeral home that is accused of falsifying the
death records of Madelyn L. Dunham.
The source of this information provided verifiable information and contact
Read more here:
All of the news leading up to Madelyn Dunhams death seemed suspect. Obamaa
comments and reactions did not seem like those of a normal, caring person.
Do I believe this story?
I will wait and let it play out.
However, given Obamas past performance and history of lies and deception,
it would not surprise me at all.
You talk about Obama’s lies and deceptions, yet you cite Larry Sinclair as a reliable source? You have to be kidding. I wouldn’t believe a thing I heard from either one.
There is not a shred of evidence that Ms. Dunham died on October 24. This is laughable and embarrassing.
I am not talking about her health condition. You should know what I am talking about.
If you don’t well....
Google this, “OBAMA, HALF-SISTER & HAWAII OFFICALS FALSIFY MADELYN DUNHAM DEATH RECORDS”
Apparently you are one of the few who does NOT believe Larry Sinclair.
And as far as Larry Sinclair goes, being gay and having some miner run-ins with the law in his younger days does not automatically make him a liar.
Larry Sinclair has told the same story of his involvement with Obama and drugs without changing a thing from day one.
He has done this in the face of death threats to him and his family, constant trashing of his website and being thrown in jail by Biden’s son.
If you’ll remember, Frank Marshall Davis, documented communist and admitted bi/pedophile was Obama’s mentor from age nine until he went away to college. This gives legs to the gay story.
I believe Larry Sinclair.
OUCH! I don’t think though, since she had at least one O-basm.
“Apparently you are one of the few who does NOT believe Larry Sinclair.”
If you really think there are only a few that do not believe Larry Sinclair, then I doubt seriously we will find any common ground. Larry Sinclair is a gay, criminal, who failed a lie detector test after making allegations about BO which were shocking in nature. He has failed to offer any proof. I mean real evidence not just an alleged annonymous source somewhere. He continues to make accusations, but never offers anything verifiable.
Larry Sinclair is no better than Barack Obama. If he was making these charges about a Republican we would use him as a poster child for the failures of liberal thinking. We would call him what he is ...a perverted, criminal, sociopath, who tries to make a living selling lies. But you think we should all believe him, just because he is anti-Obama. I thought conservatives had more integrity than that.
I still stand by my post.
I believe Larry Sinclair.
Someday he will be redeemed, for the truth will out.
(incidentally that ‘lie detector test’ was conducted by pro Obama people- unknown to Larry at the time)
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