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Sen. Ensign Admits Affair, But He Is Not The Bad Guy.
Sin City Xtreme ^

Posted on 06/16/2009 4:23:54 PM PDT by vaper69

We are already seeing Sen. Ensign being attacked by local liberals, and it is spreading to the national level. However, reserve your judgement for a moment. You must consider certain facts about the affair.

* Ensign was separated from his wife at the time. * One they reconciled, he ended the affair. * The husband apparently demanded money from Ensign to keep quiet.

So it will depend on your own value system as to whether he should really take heat for violating his vows. It would be understandable to hold scorn for Ensign since he slept with the wife of an admitted friend. Of course, it gets difficult to feel bad for the husband when he attempted blackmail.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: affair; johnensign; multiplepostaward; searchisyourfriend; senator

1 posted on 06/16/2009 4:23:54 PM PDT by vaper69
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To: vaper69

I for one am willing to forgive him.


2 posted on 06/16/2009 4:25:52 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: vaper69
The wronged husband demanded money?

There's a word for that.

3 posted on 06/16/2009 4:26:05 PM PDT by Mamzelle (BRING CAMERA EQUIP TO TEA PARTIES--TAPE THE DISRUPTORS)
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To: vaper69

Memo to Ensign: You had kept your manhood in your pants, you would not be in this moronic BS in the first place.

You get what you deserve.


4 posted on 06/16/2009 4:27:03 PM PDT by cranked
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To: vaper69

Old, old political advice - never sleep with your staff. But if you do, never stop.


5 posted on 06/16/2009 4:28:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ABQHispConservative
I for one am willing to forgive him.

I'll forgive him too. But he needs to resign. We can't have politicians with top security clearance making themselves vulnerable to blackmail.

6 posted on 06/16/2009 4:30:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ABQHispConservative
Politicians can't cheat on their wives and get away with it anymore. That's just the way it is, baby, (as the song goes) and I have no patience with politicians who don't accept that. That Ensign was separated from his wife at the time of the affair is not relevant, given that he is a public figure and would be vulnerable to blackmail, which seems in fact to have been attempted (by his paramour's husband) in this case. Basta!
7 posted on 06/16/2009 4:34:00 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: vaper69

“Ensign was separated from his wife at the time.”

He was married, seperated is still married, when he slept with another man’s, supposedly his friend, wife.
He betrayed his marriage vows and his friendship.
He dumped the honey to reunite with his wife and his husband of his former honey who was his former friend wanted revenge so he threatened to go public and spill the beans. So if the former friend hadn’t tried to blackmail him, would he have confessed? No.

Do I feel sorry for Ensign? NO. A marriage vow is sacred.


8 posted on 06/16/2009 4:34:16 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: vaper69

I’m willing to bet that they separated BECAUSE of the affair and that they reconciled Because he decided he was tired of the other woman. Call me a cynic, but the whole truth isn’t being presented. His poor wife has suffer humiliation and embarrassment because of his selfishness.


9 posted on 06/16/2009 4:34:21 PM PDT by florida red
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To: kalee

Exactly, he has proven that his word means nothing. Why should we trust him for anything else?


10 posted on 06/16/2009 4:35:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
I'll forgive him too. But he needs to resign. We can't have politicians with top security clearance making themselves vulnerable to blackmail.

I'd have to disagree. I see no point to him resigning. An attempt was made to blackmail him and rather than submit, he revealed the matter on his own. I question his judgment in having an affair, but I am not worried about blackmail. His constituents can determine next election day if his lack of morals should cost him his seat.

11 posted on 06/16/2009 4:36:06 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: dfwgator

Why should he resign? Besides, he faced the blackmail by coming clean.


12 posted on 06/16/2009 4:36:31 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: CA Conservative

If he worked for my company, I’d fire him on the spot, no questions asked.


13 posted on 06/16/2009 4:36:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: utahagen

Fine, lets get the rat politicians that have cheated out first.


14 posted on 06/16/2009 4:37:28 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: vaper69

Let me get this straight ... We have a queer crack smoking Muslim anti American foreign born traitor in the white hit and he is given a pass BUT
Ensign has a girl friend while he’s separated and HE gets in trouble ... I’m sorry but I find the hyporicy stunning


15 posted on 06/16/2009 4:38:25 PM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... the Anti-Reagan)
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To: dfwgator
If he worked for my company, I’d fire him on the spot, no questions asked.

And that would be your prerogative, although you might later find yourself the subject of a wrongful termination lawsuit. However, the only people who can fire Sen. Ensign are the voters of Nevada, and they will have their chance the next time he stands for election.

16 posted on 06/16/2009 4:39:21 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: kalee
So if the former friend hadn’t tried to blackmail him, would he have confessed? No.

From my limited reading, it appears he did confess to his wife, the other woman and the woman's husband, in private like a Christian should. What he did was a sin and inexcusable, but he handles his sin in a Biblical manner.

17 posted on 06/16/2009 4:42:15 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: vaper69

All is forgiven, so long as he doesn’t turn into another invertebrate, Potomac sipping, moderate, wishy-washy wimp.


18 posted on 06/16/2009 4:47:15 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Mamzelle

The wronged husband demanded money?


Didn’t something like that happen to Alexander Hamilton? He was another great Constevative, a revolutionary conservative.


19 posted on 06/16/2009 4:53:25 PM PDT by FFranco (To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness.)
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To: vaper69

So, is this his first affair or the first affair were he has been caught?


20 posted on 06/16/2009 5:09:11 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: vaper69

in other news:
Traditional Marriage Rallies Ignored by Media


21 posted on 06/16/2009 5:38:03 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: dfwgator

But he wasn’t vulnerable! He went public as soon as he was threatened with extortion. That tells me that he will never be a victim of blackmail.

Ensign was separated at the time of the affair. He shouldn’t have gotten involved with a staffer, but this is a minor mistake. He ended the affair as soon as he reconciled with his wife and he cut off contact with the other woman (giving her a severance package).

I can understand why the cuckolded husband wanted revenge — but when he wants money for silence, he loses all sympathy. Almost makes you understand why his wife was wandering. Bet their marriage is in great shape.


22 posted on 06/17/2009 12:14:53 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Mad-Margaret
Ensign was separated at the time of the affair.

Okay, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

So, while it appears that he was separated from his wife at the time of his relationship with his staffer, that staffer with whom he had the affair was still married and not separated.

So therefore, he simply had an affair with a married woman.

23 posted on 06/17/2009 12:21:38 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

I don’t think it’s a good thing, but I’m less troubled by what he did as opposed to many other politicians. And he did own up to it rather than allowing himself to be blackmailed.

This is a far cry from the antics of Clinton or Kennedy or FDR or Spitzer or here in Michigan, Mike Cox.

And at least his wife didn’t do the stand-by-your-man thing at the press conference.


24 posted on 06/17/2009 1:34:10 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Mad-Margaret

But can he simply fire an employee once he’s done having an affair with her? That might seem to be the basis for her demanding money.


25 posted on 06/17/2009 1:40:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

She got severance pay, and she wasn’t demanding more money. Her husband was. I haven’t read whether he got severance pay too, but at one time, he also worked for Ensign.

Messy!


26 posted on 06/17/2009 3:07:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Mad-Margaret

Yes, but by what basis was the husband demanding money? Because it was due to him? to her? simply as a threat to go public otherwise?

Messy indeed!


27 posted on 06/17/2009 3:36:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: vaper69
So it will depend on your own value system as to whether he should really take heat for violating his vows.

Yes. If you, like the editorial writer, have no values, you will not think that he should take any heat.

28 posted on 06/17/2009 10:15:33 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: CA Conservative
I question his judgment

Well, then, since the job of United States Senator does not require the exercise of judgment, there's no reason he should quit.

29 posted on 06/17/2009 10:17:34 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
it appears he did confess to his wife, the other woman and the woman's husband

Did he confess to each and every one of the voters to whom he sold himself as an advocate of "family values"?

No, he did not. (Well, not until he knew he was about to be outed anyway, which doesn't count.)

30 posted on 06/17/2009 10:19:15 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Mad-Margaret
And at least his wife didn't do the stand-by-your-man thing at the press conference.

Just once, I would like to see one of those performances turn into a proper and richly-deserved response from the wronged spouse -- an angry rant at the cheater, a kick to the nads, a public serving of divorce papers, whatever.

31 posted on 06/17/2009 10:22:12 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: All

The person who put up the axiom that “Washington is Hollywood for ugly people” knew what they were talking about.

I remember being in an elevator back in 1995 with a young woman heading for some senator’s office. She was telling a friend she hadn’t yet met the senator, but she was apparently some sort of lobbyist.

This woman was drop dead gorgeous, and dressed to kill. That’s the type of temptations these people commonly face.


32 posted on 06/17/2009 10:32:18 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: dfwgator

Why would you fire him..he did nothing illegal. His judgement comes into question...but if we fire everybody because we question their judgement, nobody would be employed.


33 posted on 06/17/2009 10:39:09 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: steve-b
He apologized to those he personally sinned against. There was no reason to announce it to the world at the time. Do you think doing so would have been in the best interest of the other woman and her marriage?

A short term lapse is forgivable. If he had a history of repeated offenses’ that is a different story.

Have his votes been on favor of immoral positions? If not, he has not let a personal failing affect what he knows is right.

Have you always been this judgmental?

34 posted on 06/17/2009 10:57:40 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
Do you think doing so would have been in the best interest of the other woman and her marriage?

Keeping it in his pants would have been the best interest of the other woman and her marriage (not to mention his own).

Have his votes been on favor of immoral positions?

His hypocrisy is an aggrivating factor, not a mitigating one.

Have you always been this judgmental?

Yes, actually. Somebody needs to stand up for moral values.

35 posted on 06/17/2009 11:01:18 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b
You don't seem to understand forgiveness when a person confesses, does what he can to make things right and goes on with life.

I would guess you are unmarried, because no intelligent would put up with a guy like you if she had anything approaching a healthy self-image.

36 posted on 06/17/2009 11:17:19 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: vaper69

He’s a pig who betrayed both his wife and his Christian principles.

He’s not trustworthy and he needs to resign...

Ed


37 posted on 06/17/2009 1:44:39 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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