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To: BP2
unless you want to give the Kenyan birth theory credence

OBviously, Obama was not born in Hawaii, so the odds that he was born in Kenya are looking like a sure bet.

How many times do I have to say it?

41 posted on 06/27/2009 11:35:24 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Polarik; LucyT; Kenny Bunk; hoosiermama; STARWISE
Ron, you and I are on the same sides. I apologize for the bullsh!t remark. I had not realized you penned the blog — I have nothing but respect for you and your work. It's obvious that the Certification of Live Birth posted online is a fake and I'm pissed that it has not gotten more legitimate attention.

I think there's enough room for ALL of our theories, and do not think ALL of the other will fall apart if ONE is repudiated. Obama and his team has gone through extraordinary means to keep his birth certificate from public eye. He may be slick, but even if he says that Obama Sr was not his dad, he will still be seen as a fraud by a majority (except for his undying fans, of course) for letting the fraud of his Kenyan roots go on for so long.

I, too, do NOT think that Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii. Kenya is quite possible too — I've peiced together a day-by-day itinerary of how it was possible, including their probably air travel route on Pan Am back through the east coast to Washington state. But the Kenya theory requires more hoops for Ann and baby Obama to have jumped through to make it work. I think birth in Washington state or Canada is more likely, simply because of logistics. But, IMO, the preponderance of evidence is that Obama Jr was NOT born in Hawaii is overwhelming for those who GENUINELY take the time to look at the data. HOWEVER, in lieu of proof-positive evidence of birth in Kenya, Canada or otherwise, I use the term "THEORY".

Regarding the divorce, please reference all of the pages: Obama 1964 Divorce -- 13 Pages -- Merged

I spoke with the private detective who got the first parts of the 1964 divorce papers. I was also personally responsible for getting the second parts of the 1964 and 1980 divorce papers, from a very junior clerk at the courthouse that handles that old jurisdiction in Hawaii.

The “Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit” is the court Ann Obama went through for the divorce, which is now defunct. Judge Samuel P. King (who is in his 90s and lives in Hawaii) authorized a “knock and nail” notification of divorce to Obama Sr, who was in Boston at college. That notification was delivered via Air Mail on Jan. 30, 1964, to the address he claimed at the time at Harvard. That notification (SEE PGS 10-12 at the link above) was NOT answered by Obama Sr. As the divorce was for “grievous mental suffering”, Judge King automatically granted the divorce to Ann Obama EXACTLY 60 days from the original court date (Jan 20, 1964 t0 Mar 20, 1964). There was no forgery of Obama Sr’s signature that I'm aware of — in fact, there was NO signature from him AT ALL.

However, in speaking with the clerk, she indicated to me that the judge -SHOULD- have asked for a marriage certificate before granting a divorce. In Hawaii, divorce decrees are public record — marriage certificates are not. There seems to be a page missing from the 1964 divorce papers from the page count, but when I queried the clerk about it, she said it was a typo (I'm still unsure about that one...). It MAY be the marriage certificate, which may be part of the file, but not releasable -- but I can't confirm that.

It's POSSIBLE that Ann Obama: a) forged a marriage certificate; b) tricked the judge into accepting her word they were married; or c) was involved in collusion with the Judge to get the divorced to be granted. However, I've never heard in the 18 years from their divorce until his death that Obama SR ever denied they were married. Nor did he deny Obama Jr was his son.

I'm working with information that would be presentable in a court of law — previously-filed court papers would count. IMO, so does your forensics work on the COLB, once we get to that point in the legal process ... that is, once we can find a judge who is not corrupt and willing to review your facts before sealing his or her “No Legal Standing” stamp on the case...

Again, sorry for the previous post.

48 posted on 06/27/2009 1:58:20 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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