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Obama's Census to castrate American Caucasians
Canada Free Press ^ | June 27, 2009 | Paul Williams

Posted on 06/27/2009 9:53:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That would not be my preference but it's not a big deal. We knew this was coming when we lost the election.

Just like the previous counts, this one will be another Moron Full Employment Act. They will hire a bunch of slobbering idiots until it's over and then dump them back on the street.

They could influence the count to a degree but that is something that we will have to grin and bear. I doubt if they can do too much damage and there's nothing we can do about it if they do.

51 posted on 06/27/2009 11:34:36 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm letting my Podengo do my form.

She loves paper work.


52 posted on 06/27/2009 11:34:50 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
I’ve heard people argue here that they want to know when you will leave for work, for “traffic management”.

Thats what traffic cameras are for. Ohio and I am pretty sure some other states have them, sensors in the road to tally road traffic
53 posted on 06/27/2009 11:35:58 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For some people in this economic hardship... some will be out on the street with no home and say that the food from the dumpster is fine... next question ?
54 posted on 06/27/2009 11:54:08 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I heard on the radio that Rep. Bachmann says that she is not going to fill out the 2010 Census .. and after she said that, a woman came on and said that it’s a $ 5000 fine if you don’t fill out and send in your 2010 Census....


55 posted on 06/27/2009 11:58:36 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: DBrow
" They came to my house weeks ago with their GPS computer, and punched buttons to log my domicile in their GPS database. The guy made some joke about tagging every front door in America this time around.... " ...

Don't it seem kind of like what is going on in Iran with the freedom protesters ?
The thugs that the mullahs hired mark the protesters and at night go and find them....
56 posted on 06/28/2009 12:01:54 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: PizzaDriver

Or ? if I can afford to put gas in my car. I’ll use the car to go to work, but since Mr. Obama is going to pass the cap and trade bill, and the bogus global warming bill, but since fueling my car is getting to expensive I might not make it to work on time since I got to walk 10 city blocks to get to work.... next question ? .... and government ? since you want us to drive a green friendly car will you pay for it for me ?


57 posted on 06/28/2009 12:06:44 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
A FReeper looked up the relevant US Code and it's a $100 fine, but has NEVER been assessed.
58 posted on 06/28/2009 12:07:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: pompelmous; Mad_Tom_Rackham

Are cats people too?


59 posted on 06/28/2009 12:10:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness; Mad_Tom_Rackham

This is exactly what I fear. The white American patriots will undercount and underreport, thinking they are screwing the Obama system. In the meantime, the housing project denizens, who are overwhelmingly “of color,” will gladly count the dogs, the cats, the cockroaches, etc. As soul brothers and sisters, of course.


60 posted on 06/28/2009 12:13:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: pompelmous
what I don't understand is ? I got a questionnaire, and I am not the head of the household were I live...
61 posted on 06/28/2009 12:15:13 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Private sample counts could, and IMHO should, be made in parallel. If the official census shows something wildly out of kilter, a whistle should be blown and a red flag raised.


62 posted on 06/28/2009 12:15:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Comment for Census form:

Unlike the Poseur fake President who had his Brownshirts send me this Invasion of Privacy Interrogation Form, I was born in the U.S.A.

63 posted on 06/28/2009 12:25:37 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Messiah is another Man's Fuhrer...)
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To: A message

“On page 10 “ What time did this person usually leave home to go to work LAST WEEK.””

ACORN will send out burglars to ransack your house after you leave.

All I will fill out is the number of people.

Everything else will be filled in with scribble so ACORN can’t fill in the blanks for me.

Let them try to take me to jail because I will absolutely exercise my constitutional rights against unconstitutional tyrannical government. The line in the sand is clear.

Word gets out that a few census workers are missing and the rest may not be such enthusiastic obamuppets.
Government is scared of us or they wouldn’t try to intimidate us to answer questions they will use against us, with bogus fines and threats.


64 posted on 06/28/2009 12:36:45 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: erkyl
Calm down, take a deep breath, and open your Constitution. The answer is in there.

On relevant federal laws, these are found in the United States Code, Title 13 Sections 9,141,193,214,and 221; and Title 44 Section 2108. Take a little time to bone up on these - they aren't that bad.

And then... smile, write in the number of people living at your address, fold it, put in the return envelope, and send it in.

65 posted on 06/28/2009 12:39:23 AM PDT by Lexinom (How many last straws do we need?)
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To: A message

Re: “I have received the census now twice since I didn’t answer the first one. Other than I didn’t catch the time leaving in the morning this is accurate.

Everytime I look at it I become very angry.

I have not decided yet how I will answer it.”

*********

You’ve rec’d two copies? I never got one — frankly I did not think the thing was mailed out yet. Are you sure you rec’d the census or is it going one area at at time?


66 posted on 06/28/2009 12:46:12 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I think that there are, in fact, statistical verification methods in place. When all else fails, there is political pressure. There were a number of cities that came up short from what they thought the count would be and protested the last time around. They did some recounts and some numbers were adjusted but I think that most were reasonably accurate.

There are some anomolies that are just intuitive. I think that Albuquerque, New Mexico is listed with 33.2% of people over 25 holding a 4-year degree. That puts it among the highest in the country.

If you have ever been to Albuquerque, they are some of the dumbest rocks to mascarade as people that I have ever seen. Sure there are some gems scattered around especially in the neighborhoods around the University and Sandia Labs but generally it's duhsville. Albuquerque struggles to graduate 50% from high school and 66% of college entrants never complete a degree. I doubt if all those graduate are moving in. I will never believe those numbers.

Los Alamos County, NM, on the other hand, would defy logic if you didn't know the labs were there. Eighty percent of those over 25 have a Bachelors and 30% have a Graduate degree.

67 posted on 06/28/2009 12:47:37 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Sefton

That’s what I’m thinking. The question was probably a “special favor” to ACORN.


68 posted on 06/28/2009 1:14:36 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: TheConservativeParty

Wisconsin started their crazy voting before California did. They even voted for Dukakis. What’s the problem up there? Even Green Bay elected a leftist Democrat for Congress.

I’m a Sheboygan native, by the way.


69 posted on 06/28/2009 1:19:46 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pdf/2010ACSnotebook.pdf
70 posted on 06/28/2009 1:23:02 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
The indoor plumbing question goes back, I think, to the 1920 census when they were trying to potty train the South.

Well, I can see where indoor plumbing was easier to sell in areas where the temperatures get below zero in the winter....

71 posted on 06/28/2009 1:28:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yup, the northerners had to make the wild dash up the path in the blizzard.

Really, though, the South post-reconstruction was a disaster. It wouldn't even qualify for third world status. They were chronically mal-nourished which created a situation much like North Korea today. Physical growth and IQ were permanently stunted leading to some stereotypes.

Whites were particularly vulnerable to scurvy and related diseases until they noticed the blacks picking and eating "weeds" from along the riverbanks. That's how Mustard greens and Turnip greens etc. became a Southern staple.

There was a concerted effort starting with Wilson and continuing through Roosevelt to rebuild the South economically. That reinforced the South as a Democratic stronghold.

In 1936 South Carolina voted 98.57% for Roosevelt. In the whole state there were only 1650 votes for Landon. The next year there were 1650 lynchings.

The South will be back solidly Democratic before we hit the quarter century mark.

72 posted on 06/28/2009 1:52:08 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I like it, my fellow Native American. Think I’m gonna copy your answer on the Census test.

-Monica G, rockin the blonde/blue Swedish/German Native American look since 1972


73 posted on 06/28/2009 1:58:55 AM PDT by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm just going to tell them someone has already come by, I'm not doing it again.

Not to mention they will be hard pressed to catch anyone home as we WORK FOR A LIVING!

74 posted on 06/28/2009 2:02:14 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is sub-human. His wife is even worse.


75 posted on 06/28/2009 2:19:18 AM PDT by jla
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To: parsifal
A signed autograph picture of Hillary Clinton."

After seeing a picture of Hillary, I wouldn't want to have sex for several months....so there would be no need for castration.

76 posted on 06/28/2009 2:58:08 AM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We are required by law to fill out the census form, and I will do so. Patriotic Americans are morally obligated to fill out the number of residents truthfully, and I will do so. Other than that, I may "misunderstand" one or more of the remaining questions.

My religion is Jedi, and the other responses will be equally informative (equivalent to "none of your business" but without the opportunity for obama's goons to prove that I'm noncompliant).

77 posted on 06/28/2009 3:08:00 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: MrPiper

I got flagged last Census and had a person come to my door saying that the form was incomplete. He got a bewildered look when I told them that the form was complete with the information required by the U.S. Constitution.

He started to get somewhat agitated and proceeded to tell me about the possibility of a fine if I didn’t comply with with the Census requirements. My response was that when I joined the U.S. Air Force, I pledged to uphold the U.S. Constitution and not the Census Bureau. Upon being Honorably Discharged, I did not receive anything either verbally or in writing stating that my pledge to uphold the Constitution had been fulfilled and so I feel it is my duty to place those responsibilities before any requirements of the Census Bureau. I then proceeded to inform him that since he knew my name and my address, not to mention that I’ve had background checks by the FBI and multiple State Police agencies (for concealed carry permits which was NOT shared) and am definitely in the system...he clearly knows where to send the fine that will not be paid.

I never received a fine.


78 posted on 06/28/2009 3:15:22 AM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Questions Planned for 201 Census Form tells when each question was first asked.

"Age" is from 1800

"Gender" is from 1790

"Hispanic" from 1970 ... and none of their business as with all modern additions to the survey.

"Race" from 1790 ... but with some modifications ... and none of their business as with all modern modifications to the survey.

"Relationship" (married, unmarried partner, ...) from 1880 ... but with some modifications ... and none of their business as with all modern modifications to the survey.

"Tenure" from 1890 ... but with some modifications ... and none of their business as with all modern modifications to the survey.

"Race" from 1790 ... but with some modifications ... and none of their business as with all modern modifications to the survey.

"Ancestry" from 1980 ... and none of their business as with all modern modifications to the survey.

79 posted on 06/28/2009 3:24:48 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The analysis is good, but it overlooks the biggest problem with the Obama Census.
The Census is the responsibility of the Justice Department NOT the Executive Branch or Conngress.
The purpose of the Census is to align representatives with voters. Having Congress or the President conduct the census is a “CONFLICT OF INTEREST”. Even when the first census was taken, it was done by the US Marshall Service (on horseback) at the direction of the Federal Courts.


80 posted on 06/28/2009 3:27:46 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A FReeper looked up the relevant US Code and it's a $100 fine, but has NEVER been assessed.

Check Again...Here's the information from the American Community Survey (ACS) FAQ

Yes. Respondents are required to answer all questions on the American Community Survey (ACS) to the best of their ability. Response to this and other Census surveys is required by law (Section 221 of Title 13, Chapter 7, United States Code). This chapter also contains information regarding offenses and possible penalties. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of not more than $100 to not more than $5,000. More information.

81 posted on 06/28/2009 3:29:26 AM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The last census, devised by DemonRATs during th Klintoon administration, had a “short form” and “long form”. The short form was the usual, “How many people live at this address”, nothing more.

The “long form” was what is described in the above article and was sent to 10% of the addresses.

I got one of the “long forms”.

I filled in the box for how many people lived at my address and sent it in without supplying the rest of the information.

A few weeks later, a Census worker appeared at my door. He wanted the rest of the information. I invited him inside and we chatted a bit about the legalities of the document. I told him that Congress had no authority to ask me any questions in the Census beyond that required in the Constitution, “How many people live at this address?”

He assured me that Congress was authorized by the Constitution to devise whatever type of Census they wanted and that I was required by law to provide the information.

When he asked what race I was, I said, “Human”.

He wrote something down, but I could tell he wasn’t amused.

When he asked what race my wife was, I though a moment before answering and said, “Female”.

Now he was getting upset with me. I told him that I had given him honest answers and didn’t understand what his problem was with them.

Then he started asking me the personal, financial questions. I told him that I would not answer those. He got up to leave and tole me that I could be subject to a $100 fine and/or an unspecified time in prison for refusing to comply with the law.

When he left, I was worried, but I never did hear back from them.

I think that if enough people REFUSE to comply with this unjust intrusion, we can overcome. But the numbers must be HUGE, in the tens or hundreds of thousands.

Stand firm!


82 posted on 06/28/2009 3:36:27 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: SpaceBar
I said that on Nov.5th, but the nation still sleeps at night without a care.

I keep thinking about Samual and how he prayed to God, about what the Israelites asked for, A king. And what God's response was.

And his census will make sure that the time of the Judeo-Christian standards and culture in the land of the free and the home of the brave will come to an end.

83 posted on 06/28/2009 3:48:18 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
US Constitution, Article I, Section 2: “…The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct…”

US Constitution, Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

It appears that there may be a conflict of rights here. Using the Census for any purpose than enumeration appears to cross the line into seizing information from citizens.
84 posted on 06/28/2009 4:29:10 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Chgogal

Thanks for sharing this. I just sent it to my entire e-mail list with the proviso that the answer to the question at the end is that we are only REQUIRED to answer the one question: How many people live at this address? I then asked that they pass it on to their e-mail list.

Also, any of us attending Tea Parties might make handouts with this info on them.


85 posted on 06/28/2009 4:45:47 AM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: MARTIAL MONK; Grampa Dave; maggief; 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TADSLOS; raybbr; ...
These are the questions they ask every census. Most of the questions go back decades. There's nothing evil here.....it's been standard for years.

Stop right there and consider.........that was way back when the census was untainted by politics.

That was long before the WH was controlling the census----getting its hands on info to be used for political purposes.

That was long before the calculated Rahm Emanuel was manipulating the census to build a permanent Dem majority w/ the replies.

That was long before ID theft prevailed-----which is a distinct possibilty today....... with the nefarious ACORN getting ahold of the info.

Americans counted way back when. Now the census will enshrine illegal hyphanates as the "new majority" (a political goal of the Obamatons).

The potential for wrongdoing is breathtaking.

86 posted on 06/28/2009 5:44:15 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
"I use census data frequently and I have used most of these catagories. Most of the questions go back decades. Some of the reasons are obvious. Time of leaving for work helps compute road capacity needs and commute time. The indoor plumbing question goes back, I think, to the 1920 census when they were trying to potty train the South. There's nothing evil in here and it's been standard for years."

And every one of those questions is and has been un-Constitutional. Nor should YOU have access to the information. The Census is NOT the "US Bureau of Statistics". The ONLY legitimate question to be asked in the census is how many residents at an address, and that is ALL I will answer.

87 posted on 06/28/2009 5:47:02 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: coconutt2000
Census data is big business.

Which is why I wonder what would happen if millions of Americans just refused to co-operate with the census....

And check this out, BTW...

US Census Bureau Acquisition Management

Interesting set of links there...

88 posted on 06/28/2009 5:51:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: SpaceBar

Bloodless so far.


89 posted on 06/28/2009 5:55:58 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. Putting it one way, the war is on against White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.


90 posted on 06/28/2009 6:56:21 AM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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To: DBrow
I caught the guy coming down my one mile, dead end driveway to GPS my home. I told him he did not have permission to come on my property and could not GPS my home he said OK and did not do it. I followed him out and then asked him why they were doing it? He said in case people do not fill out the mailed form, then they know where to find them with the GPS coordinates.

Judge Napolotano on Fox News, said the constitution says only how many people living in the house period!! Are they going to fine me $5,000, bring it. I will hire a lawyer with the $5,000 to fight for the constitution rather than give them one thin dime.

91 posted on 06/28/2009 7:45:20 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: DBrow
“They’ve already been by your house and made a GPS entry for its location- they know where it is.”

The same knowledge can be gained with a mailing address. Urban myth in the making?

92 posted on 06/28/2009 7:58:00 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: MARTIAL MONK
YOU PAY FOR ITS COLLECTION.

You do. Twice, at least, in the case for traffic flow. Have you ever seen the the air hoses laying across the road recording the number of cars going over it to calculate traffic flow? That's got to be paid for as it's part of a study. And, now the census is purportedly doing the very same thing. Except in the case of the census they don't ask what route you take so how is the information applicable to traffic planning?

This is intrusive at best and the genesis of "central planning" at worst.

93 posted on 06/28/2009 7:58:37 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It asks your income, your educational level, and the time you leave your home in the morning.

But infinitely more telling is what the new census form DOESN’T ask.

It doesn’t ask if you are a citizen of the U.S.A., if you are an immigrant, or if you are a Muslim.


WOW!


94 posted on 06/28/2009 7:59:30 AM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: verity
“They’ve already been by your house and made a GPS entry for its location- they know where it is.” The same knowledge can be gained with a mailing address. Urban myth in the making?

Yes, but using GPS and computers makes gerrymandering SO much easier.

95 posted on 06/28/2009 8:00:08 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Liz

Well, Liz, it looks as if we’re about to find out if enough white people have any balls (what’s the term for ladies?) left.


96 posted on 06/28/2009 8:02:33 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Everyone who answers Native American is giving more government goodies to whom the government means by ‘Native American’-—and fewer goodies to those of the real race of the respondent.

Is that really such a great subversive move?


97 posted on 06/28/2009 8:09:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: raybbr

There are programs that can convert a street address into latitude/longitude coordinates and achieve the same result.


98 posted on 06/28/2009 8:40:16 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: 9YearLurker

Sure, why not? Starve the beast by bankrupting it. It’ll bankrupt surely - especially the path we’re on now - so bring it about on our terms, not theirs.


99 posted on 06/28/2009 9:25:29 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: trumandogz
I bet it does not ask if you have a “frigerator.”

It do not axe it, eider.

100 posted on 06/28/2009 9:27:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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