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Tom Daschle on Healthcare Reform -- 'Soylent Green' isn't just a movie anymore
Word Press ^ | 6/27/09

Posted on 07/01/2009 3:00:14 PM PDT by pabianice

“Health-care reform will not be pain free. Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.”

– Former Senator Tom Daschle, on Obama’s plan to ration health care


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; daschle; seniors; tomdaschle
How’s that Hope and Change working-out for you AARP fools?
1 posted on 07/01/2009 3:00:14 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

This is a joke, right? This is a set up? This is from the Onion or something?


2 posted on 07/01/2009 3:01:23 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: pabianice

Well if you’re a senior citizen that voted for this garbage...you made your bed, now sleep in it.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 3:02:37 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: NoobRep

any senior citizens who are not on welfare nor black who voted for obamanation ought to go to the head of the ration line!


4 posted on 07/01/2009 3:04:57 PM PDT by bareford101 (the United States of Alice in Wonderlad)
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To: NoobRep
Well if you’re a senior citizen that voted for this garbage...you made your bed, now DIE in it.

There...fixed!

5 posted on 07/01/2009 3:06:54 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: pabianice

Easy for Marxist like you and your kind to tell us little folk what to do but you like your kind WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE MEASLY LITTLE THINGS WILL YOU MR. AZZHO DAZZHO?


6 posted on 07/01/2009 3:07:48 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: pabianice

Need a hip replacement, or corneal transplant? Nah, too expensive, so we might as well just eliminate you. Why even waste food and shelter on such an expensive, unproductive member of society?


7 posted on 07/01/2009 3:10:03 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: pabianice

Ya’ think he was talking about Teddy Kennedy?

You listening, Ted?


8 posted on 07/01/2009 3:10:18 PM PDT by elli1
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To: pabianice
I suspect they won't entirely Sol Roth people in the Dying Rooms. They'll probably include a couple of joints to go along with the pretty pictures after you drink the poison...
9 posted on 07/01/2009 3:12:47 PM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: pabianice

Be a shame if Sen. Dash-hole got prostate cancer. He’s old. Why treat it?


10 posted on 07/01/2009 3:15:18 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: pabianice
Added an excerpt from your Link:

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.

" Michael Tanner, a senior policy fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute, told CNSNews.com the question illustrates the fundamental contradiction in the health-care debate.

" Everybody wants to live forever, and everybody wants their loved ones to live forever, and nobody wants to pay for it,” he said.

Tanner suggested Devinsky’s question(to the President on his own grandmother) gets to the root of the matter — whether government should make decisions like the ones Obama made about his own grandmother.

" “I think it does show that these are personal questions and therefore something that should be left to the individual and not be rationed by third parties,” Tanner said. " Asked whether there would be any restriction on the kinds of rules a government plan might impose, Tanner said, “No, no, there’s no limit at all.”

" (A)nd, in fact, what we would probably see,” Tanner speculated, “is the use of these clinical effectiveness, or the ‘cost-effectiveness research’ studies to begin to say, ‘Well, we’ll stop reimbursing for x, y, and z because it’s not cost-effective.’”

Define "cost effective".

11 posted on 07/01/2009 3:16:20 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

You will be selected for death in proportion to your worth to society.


12 posted on 07/01/2009 3:21:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: pabianice
Daschle is old news...here's Obama:

Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die

Obama Discusses Deathbed Measures

Painkiller Healthcare?

See also:

Money News - Obama: Raise Death Tax to Pay for Healthcare

NY Times: Change in Estate Tax Suggested to Pay for Health Care

Obama: Euthanasia of the elderly may be necessary

Obama Administration Considers Pro-Euthanasia British-Style Health Care

Cal Thomas: Why Obamacare may beget euthanasia

The plan is to kill 'em a little faster and steal their life savings to keep up with the healthcare demand for those Obama deems worthy.

13 posted on 07/01/2009 3:22:57 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: bareford101
any senior citizens who are not on welfare nor black who voted for obamanation ought to go to the head of the ration line!

I think many of the elderly were "scared" into voting for Obama. He did preach gloom and doom in the marketplace and the environment (although Obama kinda forgot that recently)...had promised to care for the downtrodden with debts to big to handle, tax only the rich (250,000+) who don't pay "their share"...heightened feelings of class envy.

You are correct..they should be scared now. This is where the need for supplemental health insurance comes into play. That's if they have any money left after they take "the farm".

I hope there is a "citizen revolution" in magnitude..but how long does the taxpayer have to suffer before he or she or they will take action? Call it civil disobedience, call it whatever you want.

14 posted on 07/01/2009 3:35:05 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Venturer
in proportion to your worth to society

So the rich (self-earned, invested well) elderly will live and the poor elderly (greeters working at Wal*Mart) will not.

15 posted on 07/01/2009 3:39:01 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: dynachrome
“Be a shame if Sen. Dash-hole got prostate cancer. He’s old. Why treat it?”

Tom, like our other esteemed retired congress members is exempt from following the National Health Care rules.

16 posted on 07/01/2009 3:40:41 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: pabianice; LRS
They are remaking Soylent Green.
17 posted on 07/01/2009 3:41:22 PM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: pabianice

Don’t think I’m not scared ____less by all this. I have a lot of health concerns and this really is scary.


18 posted on 07/01/2009 3:43:01 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: JSteff

You be correct. Some animals are more equal, after all.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 3:46:23 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: fight_truth_decay

That wasnt so tough to figure out was it?? LOL


20 posted on 07/01/2009 3:52:44 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: ravingnutter

You can forget pain-killers. According to Fox News Channel, Obama is proposing banning Percocet, Oxycodone, and other such pain-killers because “they cause to many crime problems.”


21 posted on 07/01/2009 4:06:02 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I am going to look out for my health, sweeten up, so I make a more tasty morsel.

Will they allow me to put my name on the box? /s


22 posted on 07/01/2009 4:07:57 PM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: pabianice
Hannibal Lechter was overheard saying “I hope this is untrue. Old people taste funny. Soylent Green — “IT’s HUMANS!” LOL
23 posted on 07/01/2009 4:13:22 PM PDT by Shqipo ((A new tagline is currently under construction))
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To: pabianice

Okay, Mr. Daschle, You go first.


24 posted on 07/01/2009 5:45:11 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: pabianice

Ok, Daschle. You first!


25 posted on 07/02/2009 6:11:15 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Define "cost effective".

Your potential to pay taxes over a term of years if cured vs. the cost to cure.

26 posted on 07/02/2009 6:14:10 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JSteff
Tom, like our other esteemed retired congress members is exempt from following the National Health Care rules.

Another of the primary reasons for TERM LIMITS! Also, an amendment that requires present and former politicians to live under the laws they passed would be in order.

27 posted on 07/02/2009 6:16:59 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Captain Rhino

Great minds think alike!


28 posted on 07/02/2009 6:17:48 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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