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New Ad Campaign to Launch July 7 calling Obama proposals ‘exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany’
Indianapolis Examiner ^ | 7-1-09 | RON MOORE-Grassroots Politics Examiner

Posted on 07/02/2009 9:00:11 AM PDT by tcrlaf

The anti-Obama group, Our Country Deserves Better PAC, has announced that it will launch an advertising campaign featuring a video claiming that Obama is using tactics common to Hitler’s Germany. An audio teaser video has been released as a fundraising tool to buy time to air the ad.

The ad lists a series of actions including the report ordered by the Bush administration on right wing extremists released by the Department of Homeland Security after Bush left office. They quote an un-named Congressman saying, “They proposed a civilian security force and an American congressman warned it was exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany." -snip-

Kaloogian is also the chair of the right wing group Move America Forward that has campaigns to keep the prison at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base open and to fire Janet Napolitano ostensibly for releasing the Bush “right wing extremist threat” report.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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KEYWORDS: hitler; maf; moveamericaforward; nationalsocialism; obama
The YOUTUBE Vid of the Audio has been pulled for a "TOS VIOLATION"...

The Examiner is VERY left, and the Article goes on to bash Kaloogian hard.

In my opinion, IT'S ABOUT DAMNED TIME someone started telling the sheeple about the hard-to-miss camparisons between Obamunism, and National Socialism!

FYI- Ron Moore is a real Whacko, and Featured KOS Diarist. From his BIO:

Ron Moore is a freelance writer living in Silver Spring, Md., who is devoted to building grassroots organizations and has served as a community organizer, local union president and campaign consultant.

1 posted on 07/02/2009 9:00:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Yes, Hitler comparisons always enhance one’s credibility.


2 posted on 07/02/2009 9:03:53 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: Jeff Chandler

I agree.


3 posted on 07/02/2009 9:04:42 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: tcrlaf

IMO they need to includ Helen’s rant against Bad-Gag Bob yesterday....compare it to how Hitler controlled the press.


4 posted on 07/02/2009 9:05:03 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Unfortunately, Obama is a Statist, like Hitler, and Obama’s plans seem to combine the worst of Communism, Nazism, Fascism etc.

Trying to blame the Napalitano “terrorist” letter to Bush was rather stupid, as well.

I think we CAN link Obama to Hitler, but it needs to be done by someone who is not a loose cannon.

5 posted on 07/02/2009 9:07:26 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Jeff Chandler

Read Gunther Reinhardt’s “The Vampire Economy-Doing Business Under Fascism”, from 1939, describing business conditions inside Nazi-Controlled Germany.

The Comparisons between what the nazi’s did, and what the Democrats are doing now is startling, and UNMISTAKABLE.

As Donna Brazille mistakenly let slip on CNN last year, “It’s about CONTROL...”


6 posted on 07/02/2009 9:08:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I believe I detect a bit of sarc/irony in your statement.

It is true the left tried to pin "hitlerism" on Bush; however, the facts of Hitler's rise and "O"'s match in a very real way, starting with community organization, and going thru the very fast takeover of the reins of govt. in every field. The narcissistic egos and grandiloquent speeches are the same. The promises to make the country great by change is same. Hitler, too, wanted to do away with Germany's Christian past and take them into the worship of Nordic Gods--it fitted his super race. I do not see "O" taking on Nordic religion; but his diminution of Christiaity and traditional values is same.

Crying Hitler has been overused, but in this case,it is all too true.

vaudine

7 posted on 07/02/2009 9:15:15 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: tcrlaf
The sad thing is... most Americans now living really don't understand the depth of Hitler's evil or the horrors of Nazi Germany. They know its a bad thing but they don't have the internal terror of the last generation. So, I doubt this will work. Its like McCain using Vietnam. The middle aged and the youth just don't find Vietnam interesting so its not a hot button motivator like it is to our generation.
8 posted on 07/02/2009 9:15:25 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: tcrlaf

I hate these Hitler comparisons, the Fuhrer LOVED his country!
you swineheunts! and zee fuhrer never said “baby”. He vuz a grrreat painter too! 2 coats 1 day!


9 posted on 07/02/2009 9:40:03 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: April Lexington; LS
The sad thing is... most Americans now living really don't understand the depth of Hitler's evil or the horrors of Nazi Germany. They know its a bad thing but they don't have the internal terror of the last generation. So, I doubt this will work. Its like McCain using Vietnam. The middle aged and the youth just don't find Vietnam interesting so its not a hot button motivator like it is to our generation.

I agree. I don't think ads like this will work. They will probably end up being damaging for "our side"...

10 posted on 07/02/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah and Todd Palin and the Deadliest Catch captains should run this country)
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To: vaudine

Hitler needs to be retired as an element of comparison and I can’t believe a commercial production company with any intelligence would use it, yet again. It’s lazy, stupid and the user instantly loses any argument.


11 posted on 07/02/2009 9:47:50 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: vaudine
I believe I detect a bit of sarc/irony in your statement.

Moi?

12 posted on 07/02/2009 10:09:32 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: Deb
Why does Hitler need to be retired if not used in a knee jerk fashion? I am not rooting for the ads, here. I am just saying that for the first time in my remembrance, there are EXACT parallels to Hitler's takeover and destruction of Germany and Mussolini's takeover of Italy. The community orgn, grandiloquent speeches, the involvement even of schoolchildren, media adoration and collusion, all fits.

This is not a propaganda motif, but a real, dire warning of the threat to our country. The Germans and Italians could only see good ahead, too. I am 74 and have many European friends who see the same. They lived thru great hope,media propaganda,intimidation, shortages, round up of dissenters, deaths of family and friends, war and terror.

Eventually, these women married GI's and came to the states. They have loved it here for over 50 years, are citizens and take part. They are now very afraid because they see the beginnings of what happened in their old countries here.Not one of them was taken in by "O" speeches.

vaudine

13 posted on 07/02/2009 10:39:35 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Jeff Chandler

You’re right. There has to be a better way. Any referral to “Hitler” means you have already lost the argument.


14 posted on 07/02/2009 10:46:00 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: April Lexington

I have to agree with you about that. I am 48yo and Vietnam to me was something we saw on TV in the 60’s. It ended before I was really old enough to know much about it.


15 posted on 07/02/2009 10:47:57 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: vaudine

Because (1) Obama is a Marxist (2) His wife is a Marxist (3) Hitler comparisons have become laughable (4) Political ads should be creative and relevant, not hackneyed.


16 posted on 07/02/2009 10:48:23 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Maybe you should go aread some history about Hitler’s rise to power. He too, was elected.


17 posted on 07/02/2009 10:50:09 AM PDT by bfree (Obamie the Commie-- FBO)
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To: bfree
And maybe you should read your own friggin' tag line.
18 posted on 07/02/2009 10:52:30 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: tcrlaf

Don’t go there.


19 posted on 07/02/2009 10:53:54 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Deb

Sorry if the Hitler comparsion bothers your sensitivities, but they are accurate and will continue to be brought out.
I’ll update my tagline for just for you.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 11:06:54 AM PDT by bfree (Obamie the Nazi-- FBO)
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To: bfree

What a deep thinker.


21 posted on 07/02/2009 11:11:05 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Too bad, not everyone is quite as perfect as you are. LOL


22 posted on 07/02/2009 11:31:49 AM PDT by bfree (Obamie the Nazi-- FBO)
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To: bfree

The smartest thing you’ll say this week.


23 posted on 07/02/2009 11:33:31 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: All

Anyone see the clip or just accepting this leftist propagandist’s spin and lies about it?


24 posted on 07/02/2009 11:40:42 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Deb
Of course "O" is Marxist.However, there is a thin line between Faschism, Socialism and Communism, and more similarities than differences. All are statist, oppressive, and killers of freedom. Differences can be brought out, but organizing from community or village level, intimidation of opposition, takeover of news media, promises of equality and a classless society and class warfare,--these are common to all three.

The reason people compare "O" to Hitler is the community orgn.to get votes and intimidate, the using of economic chaos (in this case partly manipulated)to QUICKLY take over without a fighting revolution, isolating a group to be feared-then, Jews--now, Christian/conservatives, grandiose promises, and his Messiah complex--ESPECIALLY this! These make "O" much more like Fascist Mussolini and Hitler than like Stalin.

Either course leads to destruction of our country.

Ludwig von Mises wrote a book comparing Fascism, Socialism, and Communism-their likeness and differences.It should be required reading, along with some others to wake up our clueless voters.

vaudine

25 posted on 07/02/2009 11:43:00 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: vaudine
Blah, blah, blah...whatever.

From a pure advertising perspective, it's STUPID. It's OVER USED. It buys us NOTHING. It convinces NO ONE. It's wasted MONEY.

26 posted on 07/02/2009 11:48:04 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Smarter than anything you have said ever.

I saw your picture in the dictionary next to Hillary’s when I went through the “B’s”


27 posted on 07/02/2009 4:28:32 PM PDT by bfree (Obamie the Commie-- FBO)
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To: nutmeg
We need to point out to American youth that their standard of living will be substantially lower than our generation. That $100,000 in student loans for an undergraduate degree will require a debt service that keeps them substantially in poverty over most of their career. That “socialized medicine” will result in them keeping only 237 cents or so of every dollar they earn and those “post tax” dollars will be needed to pay off the non-dischargable student loans, pay for the hot car, the cell phone with data package and all of the cool fashions that they seem to need. Once they do the math they will begin to understand what Obama and the Democrats in Congress have done to them. They are a distinct minority and the beneficiaries of the Obama goodies are all baby boomers. Oh, and cap & trade... think thousands more “post tax” dollars to operate a second car, a boat, jet ski, gas lawnmower, snow blower and anything else that emits fumes. Youth of America you are about to become ECONOMIC SLAVES to the socialist elite! Revolt or suffocate!
28 posted on 07/05/2009 10:34:11 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

237 = 37 cents


29 posted on 07/05/2009 10:34:41 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Yes, Hitler comparisons always enhance one’s credibility.
Yea, totally wrong approach.
Man do we have morons on our side or what?
I sometimes wonder if conservatives have any tactical or organizational skills.A bunch of dope heads , anti American leftist kicked our asses all over the place.


30 posted on 07/05/2009 10:44:24 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: bfree

Accurate , yes of course. A good way to sway the uneducated in a TV ad, not so good.


31 posted on 07/05/2009 10:45:46 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Kansas58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTp_atr2G9E


32 posted on 07/21/2009 8:01:39 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge
This is dumb politically and wrong historically.

The Catholic Church saved hundreds of thousands of Jews from Hitler's ovens.

Israel has publicly thanked the Catholic Church for the protection the Church provided, to the Jewish people.

If you are trying to generate opposition to Obama, it would be smart not to make enemies out of those who should be allies in the cause.

33 posted on 07/21/2009 10:53:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
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