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Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill
Propaganda Matrix/Unite or Die ^ | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 07/03/2009 8:20:30 AM PDT by seven.sixtwo

The controversial climate bill that is set to be taken up by the Senate on Monday after its passage in the House will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied.

The climate legislation is written in a manner that automatically assumes that global warming is taking place and that it is attributed to rising CO2 levels, despite the fact that this is a highly contentious question and is being rejected by more and more scientists as time goes by.

As Tony Pacheco writes in his excellent article today, the bill will "audit every aspect of your home and life".

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Between this and the mandatory obamacare less we pay a 'fine', one can imagine how long there will be peace in this nation. But, i could be wrong. Americans have remained silent as the government heaped regulations, laws and taxes on us for decades...

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1 posted on 07/03/2009 8:20:30 AM PDT by seven.sixtwo
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To: seven.sixtwo
Communists America at it's best. All hail King Obama.
2 posted on 07/03/2009 8:22:53 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: seven.sixtwo

These “inspections” could be life threatening for someone.


3 posted on 07/03/2009 8:25:24 AM PDT by exnavy (I'll keep my God and my guns, the dems can keep the change.)
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To: exnavy

So I guess when a number of their ‘inspectors’ start disappearing, they will next arrive with armed escorts?


4 posted on 07/03/2009 8:26:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
So I guess when a number of their ‘inspectors’ start disappearing,

And then a little higher up the food chain so to speak.

5 posted on 07/03/2009 8:27:23 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Somehow I don’t think this will get a whole lot of coverage on MSNBC, CNN, ABC...etc.


6 posted on 07/03/2009 8:27:28 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: exnavy

We tried to warn people. The federal government could never get this much power, they said. Even right thinking people I know said there would be nothing to fear after the ‘08 election. If they move to far to the left the Dems will just get thrown out, they said. We shall see.


7 posted on 07/03/2009 8:28:16 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: seven.sixtwo
I find it interesting that the is so similar to the plan enacted into law by the British Not-So-New Labour (Socialist) Party. Naturally it was a fiasco. I am not sure of the current status of the program, but you can be sure that the final objective is still there.

How come these two countries come up with the same plan at the same time? Socialist International Collusion perhaps?

8 posted on 07/03/2009 8:29:55 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: TNCMAXQ

I wonder what this will do to the already crippled housing market?

It just keeps getting deeper. We are up to our necks in feces and Obama and the Dems just keep pouring more on.


9 posted on 07/03/2009 8:30:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: seven.sixtwo

It will take a while to sink in and first it has to get out. With the MSM in the libs bed that will take a while. Hopefully it will; be well know by 2010, then a massive conservative swing, impeachment, and undo this garbage. These next 1 1/2 years need to be turned into the complete and utter destruction of the democrat party.


10 posted on 07/03/2009 8:34:32 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: seven.sixtwo

C’mon, this can’t happen in America. /s


11 posted on 07/03/2009 8:35:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: seven.sixtwo

As bad as it was under King George III, it surely wasn’t *this* bad.


12 posted on 07/03/2009 8:37:25 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Lurker

Sentiments aside....I’m going to have to force myself to stay below the surface on this one. Suffice it to say, what they’re proposing could be the final straw.


13 posted on 07/03/2009 8:37:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TNCMAXQ
The federal government could never get this much power, they said. Even right thinking people I know said there would be nothing to fear after the ‘08 election.

You mean the all-or-nothing, "I'd rather see Obama than McCain", short-sighted, cut-off-nose-despite-face 'conservatives'?

14 posted on 07/03/2009 8:38:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: seven.sixtwo
So we won't be able to buy "fixer uppers" any longer?

sw

15 posted on 07/03/2009 8:40:20 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ) (Who will lead us?)
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To: seven.sixtwo
and so....what if your house fails the inspection...will you go to jail, suffer retraining camps, or be forced into the streets....mindless concept, the vast majority of homes meet the latest engineering standards...I doubt there is much to be improved on....
16 posted on 07/03/2009 8:40:22 AM PDT by thinking
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To: Venturer

They’re not just talking about “the housing market” as in the market comprised of those wishing to buy or sell a home; they are talking about searching and ‘evaluating’ EVERY home in America - even those that aren’t part of the “housing market”. Basically it is an excuse to look for guns, money, illegal stuff, and to generally give themselves an excuse under the ‘environment umbrella’ to gain forceful control over you and me for the way we think, live, and keep our homes. I don’t know about you but this incites a rage in more than one of us, I expect.


17 posted on 07/03/2009 8:41:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: seven.sixtwo

And the horse they rode in on!


18 posted on 07/03/2009 8:42:04 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Gaffer

I hope so.


19 posted on 07/03/2009 8:42:32 AM PDT by annieokie (i)
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To: Gaffer
All along I have believed that the environmental movement was going to be the avenue they took to hard tyranny.

Their simple mantra, "because it is good for the environment" is their war cry and it will be the false justification they use to attempt set the chains about our necks.

20 posted on 07/03/2009 8:45:30 AM PDT by wolf24 (hold fast!)
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To: Gaffer
Sentiments aside....I’m going to have to force myself to stay below the surface on this one. Suffice it to say, what they’re proposing could be the final straw.

We say that, but i am sure the goal posts will moved further away soon after this as we want to be "law abiding citizens"

21 posted on 07/03/2009 8:46:42 AM PDT by seven.sixtwo
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To: seven.sixtwo

Violates illegal search & seizure - Obambi is gonna have to get some ACORN thugs with guns - they aren’t coming in to my home.


22 posted on 07/03/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: seven.sixtwo

Bureaucrats in league with shady contractors donating to the Democratic Party.

If you want to reduce carbon consumption, tax it directly. Less opportunity for graft. But that’s the whole point, right?


23 posted on 07/03/2009 8:47:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: seven.sixtwo
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation ..."

Now perhaps the Bill finesses the "unreasonable" qualifier but how will they get past probable cause?

24 posted on 07/03/2009 8:49:36 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I've conquered my goddam willpower." Don Marquis)
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To: texgal
Violates illegal search & seizure

Of course it does. But, we are talking about the good of the environment here and that trumps the Constitution and the rights of man...

Obambi is gonna have to get some ACORN thugs with guns - they aren’t coming in to my home.

You won't be the only one. And, I'm sure the Thug in Chief will oblige.

25 posted on 07/03/2009 8:50:02 AM PDT by wolf24 (hold fast!)
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To: seven.sixtwo

I know, I just violated that in another post.....I just can help myself....I wonder what’s gonna happen when push comes to shove?


26 posted on 07/03/2009 8:50:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: seven.sixtwo
How many letters like this, to congress, will it take to get the message through?

“You keep your fricking Gestapo climate Nazis away from my house! And if you think you're going to fine me for the privilege, wait until you see how much I spend to kick your Fascist butt out of office!”

27 posted on 07/03/2009 8:51:28 AM PDT by G Larry (ObamaCare = "DYING IN LINE!")
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To: seven.sixtwo

The Fourth Amendment sometimes needs to be protected by reference to the Second.


28 posted on 07/03/2009 8:52:06 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: NonValueAdded

They will probably use our denying them access to try to prove cause.

Afterall, if you have nothing to hide, why deny them access?


29 posted on 07/03/2009 8:52:08 AM PDT by wolf24 (hold fast!)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Is this in their stupid cap and trade bill? I thought it wasn’t going before the Senate until Sept.! Sorry bastards!


30 posted on 07/03/2009 8:53:48 AM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: seven.sixtwo

If this is not the line in the sand, what is?


31 posted on 07/03/2009 8:53:53 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Gaffer

This may account for the use of GPS to locate all homes, during the Census


32 posted on 07/03/2009 8:55:41 AM PDT by thinking
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To: Gaffer

I have been enraged since January 20th when a Supreme Court Justice ilegally swore in a usurper.

Nothing surprises me any more.


33 posted on 07/03/2009 8:56:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Gaffer

This can’t be real. This would be a no-go for even brain-dead Americans.


34 posted on 07/03/2009 8:59:43 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: thinking

Well, Thankfully because of what I do for a living, I know how to jam that.....


35 posted on 07/03/2009 8:59:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: seven.sixtwo

It also just occurred to me, how do you hide your gun safe during such inspections?

You don’t suppose THAT observation would make honorable mention during these “inspections”?


36 posted on 07/03/2009 9:00:04 AM PDT by G Larry (ObamaCare = "DYING IN LINE!")
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To: seven.sixtwo
The more I read about this bill...the more I am reminded of the Red Chinese, and Chairman Mao, who gave the streets to the teenagers, and forced all the intelligentsia into the fields...it was billed as the “Great Leap Forward” the end result was total destruction of the economy
37 posted on 07/03/2009 9:02:11 AM PDT by thinking
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To: Girlene
This would be a no-go for even brain-dead Americans.

If they were aware of it, it would be a no-go. But, for most Americans the first they learn of it will be the notice they receive that it is going to happen or when they show up at their door.

Welcome to the US Congress that does not read bills and the US media that does not report anything.

38 posted on 07/03/2009 9:02:16 AM PDT by wolf24 (HOLD FAST)
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To: Girlene
Never underestimate the power of citizen isolation, especially when the enforcement is not uniform.

An example....say the government has an axe to grind (politically say because the NSA has been forced to track dissenters [e.g., eggregious FR plaints] and report them to Obama's goons).

Then say they go to a SINGLE house in a SINGLE neighborhood subdivision and bang on the door. Do you think the rest of the people in that subdivision are going to rise up and act? No.....it will be just like a weak wildebeast cut from the heard by a lion or two.....

Even if this 'wildebeast' is heavily armed and puts up a fight, everyone will still think 'drug dealer' 'criminal' or other convenient moniker.....they'll just be thinking "I'm the lucky one - it wasn't me"......

This is going to be used to kill enemies and dissenters...they won't get around to squashing everyones' lives until they have weeded out the 'dangerous'.

39 posted on 07/03/2009 9:06:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: wolf24

This section of Cap and Trade is not getting any national press. Mainly, I believe, they haven’t read it. The politicians don’t care, as they get porkulus in return for signing it. I say follow the money on these home inspections, to see who is behind this. It could really depress the market. If a person has no money to comply, and needs to sell a home, what happens??? Foreclosure???


41 posted on 07/03/2009 9:11:15 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: Erik Latranyi

>> You mean the all-or-nothing, “I’d rather see Obama than McCain”, short-sighted, cut-off-nose-despite-face ‘conservatives’?

Pull your head out of your ass. That’s not what tanked McCain.

MCCAIN tanked McCain. McCain had neither the skill nor the WILL to win. It was his to lose, and he lost it.

I hated the SOB but I voted for him anyway. Actually I voted for Sarah. My guess is the vast majority of those you impugn with your sniveling rant did exactly the same.

I hate him and all RINOS and all their bloviating apologists twice as much now.


42 posted on 07/03/2009 9:11:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Achilles Heel

You sell the home without light bulbs in the light fixtures.


43 posted on 07/03/2009 9:12:54 AM PDT by Sundog (I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
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To: Gaffer

Well, I need to see the legislation written about these supposed home inspections and any fines. I had heard about an energy inspection when you sell your home. That alone is outrageous and will severely hurt the housing market. But coming into my house to check out my energy usage? Come-on - this will be the line in the sand for every home-owner.

We need to know more details and affirm if this is true or not.


44 posted on 07/03/2009 9:14:51 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: seven.sixtwo; All

Where in the bill does it say this? Anyone got a link to the text? I can’t find this in the House version, this is as close as I can get:

1 ‘‘(2) STATE CERTIFICATION.—Not later than 2
2 years after the date of a certification under sub
3 section (c)(1) or the application of a national energy
4 efficiency building code under subsection (d)(1),
5 each State shall certify that it has—
6 ‘‘(A) achieved compliance with—
7 ‘‘(i) State codes, or, as provided under
8 State law, local codes, with respect to
9 which a certification was accepted by the
10 Secretary under subsection (c)(2)(B); or
11 ‘‘(ii) the national energy efficiency
12 building code, as applicable; or
13 ‘‘(B) for any certification submitted within
14 7 years after the date of enactment of the
15 American Clean Energy and Security Act of
16 2009, made significant progress toward achiev
17 ing such compliance.
18 ‘‘(3) ACHIEVING COMPLIANCE.—A State shall
19 be considered to achieve compliance with a code de
20 scribed in paragraph (2)(A) if at least 90 percent of
21 new and substantially renovated building space in
22 that State in the preceding year upon inspection
23 meets the requirements of the code. A certification
24 under paragraph (2) shall include documentation of
25 the rate of compliance based on—

1 ‘‘(A) independent inspections of a random
2 sample of the new and substantially renovated
3 buildings covered by the code in the preceding
4 year; or
5 ‘‘(B) an alternative method that yields an
6 accurate measure of compliance as determined
7 by the Secretary.

/////////////////////////

Seems to cover inspection of new or recently renovated buildings by the State to see if it meets the code, IF the state has adopted the federal energy codes.


45 posted on 07/03/2009 9:17:34 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Girlene
I would have thought the 'line in the sand' would have been:

A non-US Citizen being installed as POTUS

Appointment of umpty-gazillion CZARs to subvert the affirmation process and issue unenacted edicts

The confiscation of a legal US company (Chrysler) by the US Government and awarding 'ownership' to its former employees while simultaneously subverting and aborting US bankruptcy laws.

The Senate confirmation of appointed constitutional officers who are tax cheats

This could go on all day......it's just death by a thousand cuts...and we ARE bleeding - every minute.

46 posted on 07/03/2009 9:20:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: seven.sixtwo

I watched Stuart Varney rip a supporter to shreds on FOX yesterday about this


47 posted on 07/03/2009 9:23:00 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Will this finally get the majority of Americans to realize what the hell they voted for? I can hope.
Or are they too stupid to know who to blame it on? Just give them 24/7 Michael Jackson and they won’t care.


48 posted on 07/03/2009 9:23:35 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (what happened to the country that I once knew?)
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To: thinking
“the vast majority of homes meet the latest engineering standards”

Irrelevant except for getting a foot in the door. When it suits them, they will just replace the technical engineering standards with political(ly correct) engineering standards.

49 posted on 07/03/2009 9:25:41 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: seven.sixtwo
Chairmen (?)
50 posted on 07/03/2009 9:26:01 AM PDT by thinking
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