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Ginsburg: Abortion for Undesirable Populations
Creative Minority Report ^ | 7-9-09 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 07/09/2009 5:07:35 AM PDT by marcbold

I am always amazed that the pro-abortion types don't slip up and tell the truth more often. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg just did. In an interview with the New York Times on Sotomayor Ginsburg opined that what she originally thought (read hoped) that Roe would result in Medicaid funded abortion:

Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong. That is right. A sitting Justice on the Supreme Court of the United States just lamented that Roe did not mandate funding of abortion through medicaid in order to reduce "populations that we don’t want to have too many of."...

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1 posted on 07/09/2009 5:07:35 AM PDT by marcbold
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To: marcbold

Unbelievable ... and what’s even more unbelievable is that it will never see the light of day in the MSM.


2 posted on 07/09/2009 5:11:27 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Clinton was our first black President ... Obama is our first French President.)
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Related.......http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2288746/posts


3 posted on 07/09/2009 5:12:05 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR....Monthly Donors Wanted. I Upped My Monthly....Now, Up Yours.)
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To: marcbold

She’s a liberal. This is what liberals think.


4 posted on 07/09/2009 5:12:57 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Cut n Shoot Texas: Mayberry for rednecks)
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To: marcbold

Maybe Ginsburg should start wearing white robes instead of black.


5 posted on 07/09/2009 5:12:58 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (So close to Postal)
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To: marcbold

Buzzy’s off her meds - telling tales out of school!


6 posted on 07/09/2009 5:13:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: marcbold

As I understand it, that’s the same reason Planned Parenthood was started all those years ago — it was an attempt to limit the reproduction rate of the “undesirables”.


7 posted on 07/09/2009 5:13:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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To: marcbold
Mengele smiles.


8 posted on 07/09/2009 5:15:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: marcbold

“populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”...

True racism on display.


9 posted on 07/09/2009 5:15:36 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: tx_eggman

Its in the NYT... it will be noticed.


10 posted on 07/09/2009 5:15:48 AM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: marcbold

This if funny stuff...first the libs give money away to single moms (not all a bad thing), broken homes, and deadbeats and now they want to kill them in the womb. They brought on a big part of the welfare state and those that Ginsberg would probably deem “undesirable”.

Who the heck would vote for these people? There wouldn’t be enough elite liberal snobs to carry them to victory any more!


11 posted on 07/09/2009 5:16:15 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: marcbold
satan prepares a special hot and torturous rung on the ladder to hell, for both soto and Darth Vader ginsberg... suffer for eternity as you well deserve!

LLS

12 posted on 07/09/2009 5:16:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: marcbold

Margaret Sanger quotes
Founder of Planned Parenthood

Margaret Sanger founder of the International Planned Parenthood Federation, was a proponent of forced eugenics, segregation, abortion, birth control and sexual immorality. Here are some of her quotes.

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

“Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

“Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.”
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

“Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.” Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

“Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives.”
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As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ‘unfit’ and the ‘fit,’ admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation....
On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.
Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.” Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

“The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.”
Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.” Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

“Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.”
Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on “The Cruelty of Charity,” pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition.

“The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind.”
Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. “Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?” Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.

“The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped.”
Margaret Sanger. Speech quoted in Birth Control: What It Is, How It Works, What It Will Do. The Proceedings of the First American Birth Control Conference. Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November 11-12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review, Gothic Press, pages 172 and 174.

“The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order...”
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

“[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children...”
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

“Give dysgenic groups [people with ‘bad genes’] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization.”
Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review.

“As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our outrageous and our courageous leader, we will probably find a number of areas in which we may find more about Margaret Sanger than we thought we wanted to know...”
Faye Wattleton, Past-president of Planned Parenthood

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the American Baby Code that states, “No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child… without a permit for parenthood”.

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the Population Congress with the aim, “...to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization.”


13 posted on 07/09/2009 5:17:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: marcbold
I always knew the old bat was evil but I had no idea what she was really up to.
14 posted on 07/09/2009 5:18:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: marcbold

Did somebody slip her some sodium penethol? I thought that was one of the more closely guarded open secrets.


15 posted on 07/09/2009 5:20:02 AM PDT by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
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To: marcbold
She is a monster.
16 posted on 07/09/2009 5:21:50 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Have you punished an 0bama supporter today?)
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To: Desdemona
A lot of people have been praying for many years that the truth would be exposed!

No surprise it's coming out of her own mouth....

17 posted on 07/09/2009 5:22:40 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Niteranger68

Ask her about the “Schvartzies”.


18 posted on 07/09/2009 5:24:15 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Obama really did believe that stuff he was saying during the campaign)
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To: marcbold

If a normal person had said that, it would be all over the media.


19 posted on 07/09/2009 5:24:46 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (media: complete irresponsibility)
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To: marcbold
"....growth in populations that we don't want too many of." OMG!!!! OMG!!!

What "populations" are you talking about Ruthie...BLACKS??? CHRISTIANS???? Certainly NOT JEWS!

20 posted on 07/09/2009 5:25:10 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: marcbold
Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.

I assume that the Anything-But-Honorable Lady is an atheist (like so many of her fellow "progressives")and,thanks to that,isn't particularly disturbed by the fact that Hitler,for example,didn't want to have "too many" Jews around.But she's gotta be deeply troubled by the fact that he didn't want too many Communists around either.

So I'd suggest to Mrs Ginzburg that she be *very* careful about what she's prepared to tolerate in this world.

21 posted on 07/09/2009 5:25:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: marcbold
So who gets to decide who is "undesirable"? How will we know who they are? Should we make them wear a silly hat?

Liberal thinking (nonthinking that is) makes me sick.

22 posted on 07/09/2009 5:25:44 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: marcbold
"populations that we don’t want to have too many of."...

Communism/Marxism/Hitlarism all have eugenics at their base. Not so surprising, unless you are an enabling "elite", in which case it makes perfect sense that they would deny and be "shocked" at such a revelation of themselves. Commie's first rule, don't let your real intent be known, to yourself or to others.


23 posted on 07/09/2009 5:25:50 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

As EternalVigilance points out, Margaret Sanger was the first President of planned parenthood and was a big believer in eugenics. Of course it’s always stated that she was not truly a racist. She just wanted to see all the undesirables exterminated. In her view, the undesirables were the minorities and the poor.

One other thing of note that EternalVigilance did not point out. The Nazis did not invent eugenics. They got the ideas from people like Margaret Sanger who were espousing it in America in the 20s.


24 posted on 07/09/2009 5:25:57 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: P-Marlowe; enat; blue-duncan; Kolokotronis; jude24
Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of

That is an amazing admission about racism.

Sinister, however, it also is solid evidence that there are those who consider themselves more than a ruling class (which is bad enough), but as actual "OverLords" of lesser sub-humans than themselves.

25 posted on 07/09/2009 5:27:55 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: wagglebee; narses; Salvation

See article and #25


26 posted on 07/09/2009 5:29:54 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: marcbold
“[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children...”

*THIS* is why Madge is so deeply adored by "progressives" from Cambridge to Berkeley to Malibu.

27 posted on 07/09/2009 5:30:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: EternalVigilance

BUMP.


28 posted on 07/09/2009 5:35:48 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: xzins

Sinister, however, it also is solid evidence that there are those who consider themselves more than a ruling class (which is bad enough), but as actual “OverLords” of lesser sub-humans than themselves.
________________________________________

Well said.


29 posted on 07/09/2009 5:37:05 AM PDT by unkus
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To: marcbold
".....growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."

My goodness, and here I was doing some research this morning trying to get some genealogical information on Martin Bormann and this thing pops up.

He couldn't have said it better.

Looks like the masks are coming off the "Wise Latina's" eh?!

30 posted on 07/09/2009 5:46:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marcbold
This IS the purpose of abortion, from Margaret Sanger and eugenics to the leftists of today.

They usually hide it, but it's always been there. Racial "purity."

31 posted on 07/09/2009 5:51:10 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: marcbold

I just read a little more of this piece....and what I read reveals in pretty clear terms what a truly despicable individual she is.


32 posted on 07/09/2009 5:51:26 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: tx_eggman

Ginsberg is a racist. Sotomayer is a racist. Obama is a racist.


33 posted on 07/09/2009 5:52:23 AM PDT by FloridaGeezer
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To: marcbold

How much longer, as God-fearing Americans, are we going to put up with this crap!


34 posted on 07/09/2009 5:53:20 AM PDT by reegs
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To: Desdemona

“sodium penethol”

should be used for confirmation hearings, political debates, oath of office, etc. in conjunction with polygraph.


35 posted on 07/09/2009 5:53:49 AM PDT by beefree (AMERICA BLESS GOD, VOTE PALIN.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

bookmark


36 posted on 07/09/2009 5:54:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler."--- Einstein)
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To: DYngbld

“So who gets to decide who is “undesirable”? “

whoever is in charge


37 posted on 07/09/2009 5:56:15 AM PDT by beefree (AMERICA BLESS GOD, VOTE PALIN.)
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To: beefree

I’d like to see random drug and alcohol testing for all members of the Congress.A breathalizer before every important vote would be a nice touch too.


38 posted on 07/09/2009 5:58:16 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: tx_eggman

Then email it, tweet it, send it to whoever you have to. Who said you can’t report news? We can’t fix the MSM but we can sure as hell go around ‘em.


39 posted on 07/09/2009 5:58:47 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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To: marcbold

I wonder if she’s related to Margaret Sanger??


40 posted on 07/09/2009 6:00:12 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: reegs
How much longer, as God-fearing Americans, are we going to put up with this crap!

I think the more pressing question is how long is a holy and just God going to put up with us!

41 posted on 07/09/2009 6:02:19 AM PDT by twigs
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To: marcbold

This would be another nice entry of that new game “What if Bush had said.....”


42 posted on 07/09/2009 6:06:27 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Earthdweller

Communism/Marxism/Hitlarism all have eugenics at their base.

BINGO...

...and throughout the 20th century this group of peoples number one method of Eugenics was STARVATION!!!

1) Ukraine
2) Cambodia
3) China
.....just three of the most well known examples...


43 posted on 07/09/2009 6:12:56 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; enat; blue-duncan; jude24

“And near that place I saw another strait place into which the gore and the filth of those who were being punished ran down and became there as it were a lake: and there sat women having the gore up to their necks, and over against them sat many children who were born to them out of due time, crying; and there came forth from them sparks of fire and smote the women in the eyes: and these were the accursed who conceived and caused abortion.” Apocalypse of Peter


44 posted on 07/09/2009 6:13:51 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: tx_eggman

“will never see the light of day in the MSM.”
+++++++++++++++

There is no light of day in the MSM. That is an oxymoron - like ‘efficient government.’


45 posted on 07/09/2009 6:15:56 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: EternalVigilance
They're more closely related than you may think. (7:04)
46 posted on 07/09/2009 6:18:07 AM PDT by rvoitier (“The law allows what honor forbids.”--C. C. Colton)
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To: bestintxas

“populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”...

True racism on display.
+++++++++++++++++++++

Is this Maragaret Sanger, or Ruth Bader Ginsburg...hmmmph...and they call us names? Wow...!


47 posted on 07/09/2009 6:19:23 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: PghBaldy

“Its in the NYT... it will be noticed.”
+++++++++++++++

But if it were a conservative, you’d see wall to wall coverage for two weeks or more, all over the cable channels...etc...it won’t get that kind of coverage...they are bigots. They are the enemy.


48 posted on 07/09/2009 6:21:04 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: EternalVigilance; Madame Dufarge

Funny (not) that the killer of Jews and a Jewish “intellectual” think the same way, eh?


49 posted on 07/09/2009 6:21:27 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: Ann Archy

“What “populations” are you talking about Ruthie...BLACKS??? CHRISTIANS???? Certainly NOT JEWS!”
+++++++++++++++++++

That’s sooooooooooooo 1920s...what was she thinking....really!? Another idiotic Clintong legacy...


50 posted on 07/09/2009 6:25:26 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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