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Can You Give Me Information on Combo Medicine "Analsik"? [VANITY - Requesting help]
Brilliant and funny (but sometimes sarcastic) freepers around the world. | 20 July 2009 | Jemian

Posted on 07/19/2009 3:17:48 PM PDT by Jemian

Can anyone help?

The medicine is called “ANALSIK” and is a combo drug of 2mg diazepam (valium) and 500 mg of methampyrone. I need to know what the last chemical is, what can I take along with it (B12, benadryl, antacids, etc), how often and in what dosage should I take with it, and how do I take it, along with food, empty stomach, milk, water, diet coke or tea, AND what are the side-effects?

I live overseas, next to a jungle and doctor care here is sparse. We (the ex-pats here) have to be pro-active in diagnosis and treatment. The good side is that we can get medicine much easier and less expensive than is available in the US. The downside is that we have to have a vast body of knowledge about medicine which is outside of our training.

Sunday I have an extremely debilitating headache and, oddly enough, I was out of the standard analgesic. So, my husband goes to the drugstore, describes the situation and asks if they had anything to treat me. They give him the drug listed above, but no other information AT ALL. So, we began the research when he got home. We found it should be taken 3 times a day with meals, but that methampyrone has dangerous side-effects and should be taken "only as a drug of last resort."

This left us with a lot of questions. I haven't used the drug yet. My husband went back to the drugstore and got some ibuprofen. It helped but I still have the headache.


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: drug; medicine; methampyrone
I've done the standard internet searches but can't find much information. If anyone has a good resource, please let me know.

TIA

1 posted on 07/19/2009 3:17:49 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Jemian
Check here

Looks like a combo anti-inflammatory/anti-pyretic (fever reducer). I'd be more concerned about the valium, but I would assume that if they've combined them into a pill, there's no interaction issues.

It seems to be a combo drug that does a lot of stuff. Take it carefully, see how it goes.

FWIW, I'm not a doctor or involved in medicine. Good luck!

2 posted on 07/19/2009 3:21:15 PM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: Jemian

Analsik is related to Trinoassatall....


3 posted on 07/19/2009 3:22:37 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Jemian

I wouldn’t ingest anything called analsik. Nope, just wouldn’t do it.


4 posted on 07/19/2009 3:23:21 PM PDT by davetex (If it's in stock, we've got it.)
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To: davetex

You mean it’s a pill? I thought it was a suppository.


5 posted on 07/19/2009 3:24:59 PM PDT by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: Jemian

My first guess would be that you don’t take it orally.....

parsy, a sarcastic freeper


6 posted on 07/19/2009 3:25:35 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Jemian

Try here:

http://www.mims.com/Page.aspx?menuid=mng&name=Analsik+Film-coated+caplet&h=analsik,film,coated,caplet&CTRY=ID

parsy, who has psychic headaches sometimes


7 posted on 07/19/2009 3:28:15 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Jemian
I vaguely recall Methampyrone from school but in any case NEITHER of those drugs is a good idea for headache pain. Start with acetaminophen and if thats not OK then the ibuprophen. But if the patient has asthma or any kidney problems go with codeine. If the patient is an opiate-virgin there will most likely be not good side effects like itching and sometimes a "racing heart". But aside from the constipation 30 mg of codeine is safer than either acetaminophen (high-doses = liver damage) or aspirin-type druigs (lots of side effects emerging).

Good idea to learn as much as possible, as you are doing, for all this stuff. An informed patient is a capable partner in all health-care decisions.

8 posted on 07/19/2009 3:28:42 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: Jemian

I took a look at the manufacturer’s website. Their ambitions are kinda scary....”do whatever it takes to be #1”. That’s it in a nutshell as I read it.


9 posted on 07/19/2009 3:32:07 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: Doohickey; davetex

I was anticipating replies like yours. LOL!


10 posted on 07/19/2009 3:35:01 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Jemian

Cautionary interactions and above, via MIMS:

http://www.mims.com/Page.aspx?menuid=alertr&Druglist=Analsik+Film-coated+caplet%3creg%3e&CTRY=ID


11 posted on 07/19/2009 3:35:01 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: abigailsmybaby; freebilly; rarestia; parsifal; corkoman

Thank you for your help. I’m checking the links now. Parsy, I had trouble getting on the MIMS website earlier. They needed a logon and password. I’ll try again.

Y’all are correct; the meds to me look strange for headaches. At only 2mg of valium, I’m not too worried. That’s the minimum dose. In the past valium has never helped with headache pain.


12 posted on 07/19/2009 3:40:57 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I attempting to register with MIMS now. Thank you for your help.


13 posted on 07/19/2009 3:42:40 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Jemian

Thats weird. The first time I went there, I got right to the page without login. Now it wants login and password. If I can get back in, I will copy the page.

parsy, who wonders if it is the cookies?


14 posted on 07/19/2009 3:44:34 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Jemian

Also on their website they list this medication under the sub division of Respiratory System.


15 posted on 07/19/2009 3:45:15 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: skippermd

Ping, can you help?


16 posted on 07/19/2009 3:45:25 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: abigailsmybaby

This is what is listed at MIMS. Weird. FWIW, I just registered. I am an “other type of medical personnel”. LOL!


17 posted on 07/19/2009 3:47:21 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: parsifal
I know a doc who suggested suppositories to a patient who had a nasty cluster of grapes in that area.

The guy came back after a week, slammed the pack on the counter and yelled, "For all the good these did me, I coulda shoved 'em up my ass"...

18 posted on 07/19/2009 3:50:16 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Impeach now....not next month... now)
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To: abigailsmybaby
I got in and this is what I found:

See related Analsik Film-coated caplet information
Contents
Methampyrone 500 mg, diazepam 2 mg
Indications
Headache esp of psychic origin, neuralgia, lumbago, rheumatism, biliary & renal colic, muscle & joint pains.
Dosage
Adult 1 caplet 3 times daily. Childn ½ adult dose.
Administration
Should be taken with food (Take after meals.).
Contraindications
Severe psychoses, bleeding tendencies, porphyria, hypersensitivity to pyrazolone derivatives.
Special Precautions
Elderly, epileptics; CV, hepatic or renal disease, resp depression, myasthenia gravis, cross-reactivity w/ aspirin.
Adverse Drug Reactions
Drowsiness, amnesia, dependence, visual disturbance, hypotension, agranulocytosis, allergic reactions.
Click to view ADR Monitoring Form
Drug Interactions
Chlorpromazine, cimetidine, alcohol, other CNS depressants.
Click here for more Interaction Checks
MIMS Class
Nonsteroidal Anti-inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDs)
ATC Classification
N02BB72 - Metamizole sodium, combinations with psycholeptics ; Belongs to the class of pyrazolone preparations. Used to relieve pain and fever.

I don't see anything there that would contraindicate it for me in my condition. I wonder if my 100mg of doxycycline per day is a problem? Just thinking out loud here.

19 posted on 07/19/2009 3:50:44 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Jemian
I found this on a website that the hospital I work for has a subscription to.
In 1977, dipyrone was removed from the U.S. market due to serious adverse effects including agranulocytosis, aplastic anemia, thrombocytopenic purpura, and hemolytic anemia
Dipyrone is another name for the drug and it sounds like a good med to avoid.
20 posted on 07/19/2009 3:51:00 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: mollynme

That is interesting. I am anemic (or at least I was at the end of May) due to a B12 deficiency (which was being handled until during May I had TWO cases of malaria which chomped up all my new red blood cells).

Thank you. I think I’ll flush it.


21 posted on 07/19/2009 3:54:15 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thanks. I appreciate your pinging him/her.


22 posted on 07/19/2009 3:55:04 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: davetex
>"I wouldn’t ingest anything called analsik"

From the name of it, it appears you don't actually eat it.

23 posted on 07/19/2009 4:11:42 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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To: Jemian

Could not get back in. I remember it said it was an “NSAID”

Diazepam is valium, and 2 mg might relax your muscles a little bit. It also said for “psychic” headaches, hence my little joke, but that might be a tension headache.

About two or three times a week at most, I take 1 valium 10mg, when shoulder and neck get cricks. Sometimes, weeks between. No side effects except I feel relaxed and my muscles ease up some.

parsy, who is scared of pills


24 posted on 07/19/2009 4:27:49 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: parsifal

Thanks, parsy. I’ve been expecting jokes. Just google “analsik” and you get a lot of unwanted responses. At least for me they’re unwanted. If I click on those and the guys in the IT lab see it, I’m fired. No clicky for me!!!


25 posted on 07/19/2009 4:31:58 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Thanks for your ... er ... INPUT. ;)


26 posted on 07/19/2009 4:33:22 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Jemian

I saw those! I did not go to those sights for fear of horrible viruses and such, but oh yes I saw them. It must be the day for it. Go to the dinosaur post and visit that site. Very interesting scientific study over to the right of the linked story. I recognized Betty Page.

parsy, who is embarrassed that he recognized her


27 posted on 07/19/2009 4:43:32 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Jemian

Always take with 12 year old scotch, single malt, or a GIQ of Colt 44.


28 posted on 07/19/2009 5:40:09 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Doc Savage

Good advice even if you’re not needing a medicine.


29 posted on 07/19/2009 6:22:34 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Support Major Cook! I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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