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Poll: If Jesus were on earth today, would he frequent bars and pubs to befriend "sinners"?
A Daily Poll ^ | August 2, 2009 | Dave Miller (tenger)

Posted on 08/01/2009 9:29:41 PM PDT by tenger

Poll: If Jesus were on earth today in bodily form, would he frequent bars and pubs to befriend "sinners"? A Daily Poll


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: bars; evangelism; jesus; outreach; pubs; sin

1 posted on 08/01/2009 9:29:42 PM PDT by tenger
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To: tenger

Probably would but to preach the gospel not to get drunk and whatnot.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 9:32:00 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (There might just be too many metrosexuals in America to allow Sarah Palin to become President)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Not to befriend but to save.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 9:32:54 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: tenger

Interesting poll: 50% No, 25% Yes 25% I Don’t Know.

I voted “I don’t know” because I don’t know what Our Lord would do if He were here today. He certainly surprised the Pharisees of His day, and their expectations of Him were way off.


4 posted on 08/01/2009 9:33:01 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: tenger

If Jesus were engaged in His earthly ministry today, He would not frequent bars and pubs to befriend “sinners”. He would frequent bars and pubs to befriend sinners (and call them to repentance).


5 posted on 08/01/2009 9:33:11 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: tenger

Poll This:

Do You Hate Stupid Polls?

YES 98%
NO, (some of my best friends are Poles) 2%


6 posted on 08/01/2009 9:37:11 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: tenger
One of the biggest complaints by the religious leaders of His time was that he ate and drank and spent time with sinners.
7 posted on 08/01/2009 9:39:52 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: tenger

Why is the premise that bars and clubs are where sinners hang out?


8 posted on 08/01/2009 9:40:19 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: tenger

I think He would hold council outside and engage anyone that came near. He went to visit sinners when invited, He didn’t ‘hang out’ with them.


9 posted on 08/01/2009 9:43:55 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: NavyCanDo

Having a bad day, Navy? Hope it gets better for all of our sake.


10 posted on 08/01/2009 9:45:35 PM PDT by tenger (If we don't stay on them, they'll get it wrong...Joe Soucheray)
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To: tenger

If the answer is “yes,” does that mean he’d spend most of his time at gay bars (and/or highway rest stops)?


11 posted on 08/01/2009 9:47:38 PM PDT by bornred
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To: Lorianne

Hint: it’s where the “church people” ain’t. In fact, in religious society it’s highly frowned upon to go into bars. I’m sure there are worse places, but they weren’t at the top of my head when creating the poll.


12 posted on 08/01/2009 9:48:39 PM PDT by tenger (If we don't stay on them, they'll get it wrong...Joe Soucheray)
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To: tenger

Why not? He hanged out with tax collectors and hookers.


13 posted on 08/01/2009 9:49:46 PM PDT by ak267
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To: guitarplayer1953; tenger
Amen, guitarpicker.

That was the ONLY claim that had against our LORD.

But then, who else was there to dine with?

14 posted on 08/01/2009 9:50:24 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: Patrick1

Absolutely true. Actually the emphasis of the poll (in my mind) was bar and pubs. Wrapping our minds around the concept.


15 posted on 08/01/2009 9:50:53 PM PDT by tenger (If we don't stay on them, they'll get it wrong...Joe Soucheray)
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To: bornred

you tell me.


16 posted on 08/01/2009 9:53:09 PM PDT by tenger (If we don't stay on them, they'll get it wrong...Joe Soucheray)
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To: tenger

Since we all sinners, He will run into them everywhere he goes.


17 posted on 08/01/2009 9:55:09 PM PDT by microgood
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To: tenger
I'm a sinner. I don't go to bars and rarely drink but there's more to sinning than drinking and going to bars.

If I owned a bar I'd call it "Glass House."

18 posted on 08/01/2009 9:58:21 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Lorianne

“Why is the premise that bars and clubs are where sinners hang out?”

Ever see a Girls Gone Wild infomercial?


19 posted on 08/01/2009 10:01:02 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: tenger

would he have a beer with obama?


20 posted on 08/01/2009 10:07:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: tenger
9And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

10And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

11And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

12But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

21 posted on 08/01/2009 10:12:18 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: tenger
Remember that little incident at Cana? He waited till everyone was drunk then brought forth the good stuff so they'd get really blitzed.

Jesus would probably pop into the pub for a cold one every once in a while with his friends. I think you'd like Him.

22 posted on 08/01/2009 10:15:30 PM PDT by Boojum
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To: tenger

Ya know, some of us go and only have one drink while visiting friends or just relaxing.

It isn’t a sin to be at a bar!


23 posted on 08/01/2009 10:16:34 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: tenger
Did the wedding feast at Cana teach us nothing? Jesus always exercised His distinctly American prohibitionist sensitivities.
24 posted on 08/01/2009 10:17:23 PM PDT by ajr276
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To: tenger

Why don’t you just ask Him?


25 posted on 08/01/2009 10:21:49 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Report to the Unification Center.)
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To: Patrick1

>> Not to befriend but to save.

I was under the impression that the terms were synonymous. Are we not saved by a personal relationship with Christ?

In either case, my answer to the initial question is an unequivocal “yes”. Christ would not participate in sinful activity, but the life of Christ is replete with examples of him seeking out sinners on their home turf.

SnakeDoc


26 posted on 08/01/2009 10:21:59 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: Boojum

So Jesus intended them to be “blitzed” while the Bible calls drunkenness a sin?

You have a really distorted view of the Savior.


27 posted on 08/01/2009 10:23:05 PM PDT by DC Ripper
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To: Boojum

“He waited till everyone was drunk then brought forth the good stuff so they’d get really blitzed.”

I suppose you are making a joke, but really, what he was teaching us was that if we give of ourselves and do something for others, we should do it in the very best way possible.


28 posted on 08/01/2009 10:25:47 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Report to the Unification Center.)
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To: tenger

My Bible warns against the foolishness of drunkeness. I find no prohibition against the responsible use of alcohol. There is even an encouragement to take “A little wine for thy stomach’s sake...”


29 posted on 08/01/2009 11:01:14 PM PDT by Knute
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To: tenger

Nonsense. Lots of churchgoers go to bars, pubs etc.


30 posted on 08/01/2009 11:03:24 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: tenger

The question in my mind is whether such establishments of whatever sort existed 2000 years ago. We know that brothels existed even earlier because Rahab was a harlot. We have no record that Jesus ever went near a brothel. But pubs and bars are not necessarily brothels. My thinking is that pubs probably did exist. We have no record that He ever entered one, so I vote that it is highly unlikely.

Just an opinion, high possibility of being wrong.


31 posted on 08/01/2009 11:16:13 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Caligula is pure evil.)
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To: bornred
"If the answer is “yes,” does that mean he’d spend most of his time at gay bars (and/or highway rest stops)?"

I might be taking a bit of liberty in speaking for the Boss, but ya, He would go where he thought the need was the greatest. Prolly hit a few brothels too, carrying the Holy Word.

32 posted on 08/01/2009 11:16:23 PM PDT by investigateworld ( For a perfect example of Alinsky's Rule 13, visit any Free Trade thread)
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To: Lorianne

It is those high minded people who give me a seat in some of the finest restaurants in town. Rather than wait an hour for a table in a main dining room, we will head for the bar and get better service in a shorter amount of time. You do not have to have an adult beverage while dining in the bar area.


33 posted on 08/01/2009 11:42:21 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Health "care" - by the same folks who run Amtrak and the post office)
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To: tenger

Wait, I thought the media had declared Obama God, and isn’t he having a beer summit?


34 posted on 08/01/2009 11:48:46 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: tenger

He would find far more sinners in the halls of congress


35 posted on 08/02/2009 1:55:29 AM PDT by clamper1797 (An Kenyan KGB agent could not do a better job as president)
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To: DC Ripper
"Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now."
36 posted on 08/02/2009 10:15:36 AM PDT by Boojum
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To: tenger

What if Jesus came back to earth as that homeless guy that you saw last week at the interstate overpass?


37 posted on 08/02/2009 10:32:54 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: guitarplayer1953
One of the biggest complaints by the religious leaders of His time was that he ate and drank and spent time with sinners.

Exactly right. Jesus went to where the sinners were so that by his example, he could show them how to live and by his love he could heal and save them.

The San Hedron and their parties are not where Jesus sought to be, nor found himself comfortable. As Jesus entered Simon the Pharisee's home, no one including Simon himself offered to wash Jesus' feet as was the custom of the day.

In Luke 7:35-39 we read about the uninvited woman who entered Simon Pharises home and washed Jesus' feet with her tears and her hair, then annointed his feet with the alabaster oil she brought, which likely was all she had to offer. Simon is offended, commenting that if Jesus was a true prophet of God then he'd have known the type of woman was and that she was a sinner.

Clearly Jesus' reaction to the woman and what her act meant versus that of Simon tells us much about who he'd rather "hang around" with.

38 posted on 08/02/2009 10:55:44 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
If God had a name, what would it be And would you call it to his face If you were faced with him in all his glory What would you ask if you had just one question?

What if God was one of us?

Just a slob like one of us?

Just a stranger on a bus trying to make his way home?

Joan Osborne - What if God was one of us?

39 posted on 08/02/2009 11:00:39 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Semperfiwife

Well don’t expect Jesus to sidle up to your table for a chat!


40 posted on 08/02/2009 11:10:40 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: usconservative

I remember that song. It’s a good one and makes you think.


41 posted on 08/02/2009 6:21:00 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: guitarplayer1953

Right. And did create a lot of wine for the wedding at Capernaum.


42 posted on 08/02/2009 6:29:13 PM PDT by CaptRon
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