Skip to comments.NEW Obama Birth Certificate Info/Case Docs
Posted on 08/03/2009 5:06:58 AM PDT by JoeSeales
Could this be the proof that we've all been waiting for? I obviously can't attest to the authenticity of this document, but this case is for real.
Hillary Clinton has already been served on this matter, and there are SEVERAL members of the military, both former and present, who are listed as plaintiffs in this matter, as well as many state representatives.
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Is this the case before the ex-marine judge who has promised all information will be presented?
That's because this issue is such a simple thing to put to rest. I have a passport and a birth certificate. I can produce them at my house in a matter of minutes. I have not spent a million dollars to either acquire them...or to hide them.
This is not a unreasonable thing to ask for since being a "natural born citizen" of the US is a constitutional requirement for the job of President. It's not hateful, and it's not racist.
Proving that you are should be an honor.
Yet Obama cannot and will not produce either. Why?
But boy, did this picture get them worked up...and it will continnue today.
Click on it for a larger pic and more info. Even though it is most likely not authentic...it underscores the need for Obama to put his own certificate to the same test. But again, he will not.
When I last saw yesterday’s discussion on this, there were problems concerning the date Kenya became indenpendent and changed its name (hey, it’s a Kenyan thing!). So, there’s that.
Although it is pleasant to contemplate comeuppance for the socialist joker I am assuming this document is a fraud. I reckon someone will soon reveal the joke and then a lot of folks will be wiping egg off their faces.
There are two facts in this entire controversy that are very clear to me:
1) Obama does not want to release his original long-form birth certificate.
2) I conclude from #1 above that there is something on it very damaging to him. Politically speaking, it may not make a great deal of difference whether it renders him ineligible for the presidency or not. If he lied about a basic fact of his “compelling biography” it will damage him. It will be very hard to “spin” a lie as anything else but harmful to Obama’s image. Although the last Democratic president committed felonies in office and was touted by many as being a “victim,” so doubtless the left will try to spin any damaging revelations too.
Wonder if this is that certificate?
Anyone with a copy of that book that could look up that passage and post here?
Wow, who has possession?
Where did they get it?
Does orly taitz have a copy?
Does Gibbs laugh this off, when asked also? ( like the press has the guts to ask)
No, it was a copy of the birth announcement from the local Penny Saver newspaper. HA!
This has been looked into. When did Kenya become a republic, and who is W F Lavendar? Those are merely two.
There is a thread on DU urging people to flood the internets with fake BC documents, for fun and also to disinform us and confuse us (us being the Sheeple in general).
This post from DU better give you naysayers some pause.
ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-02-09 07:17 PM
Calling all DUers with Photoshop! Your country needs you!
Regarding the “Kenyan birth certificate” (found here), a fellow DUer made an excellent suggestion:
cliffordu Sun Aug-02-09 03:43 PM
20. We need to create THOUSANDS of them and ship them all over the f*cking place.
bury the f*ckers in precise fakes, all just a little different from each other.
I wanna see heads explode. I wanna see people drooling from the breakdowns.
Won’t you please help? Also, for anyone else (who doesn’t have Photoshop) we will need a name for this operation.
*= my edit.
Fake, but possibly accurate.
In 1957 African members were elected to the Legislative Council through a direct election. 1959 saw the release of Kenyatta from detention in Kapenguria. Kenyatta continued with campaign for freedom while under house arrest. In 1960, the colonial government announced plans to transfer power to a democratically elected government. In 1962, the Lancaster constitution conference was held in London where the 1st Kenya constitution was made. Kenya achieved internal self-government on June 1st 1963. Kenya was declared a republic on December 12th 1963 with Jomo Kenyatta as 1st the president. Kenyatta died in 1978 and Daniel Arap Moi took over. In 1982, the Kenyan constitution was amended declaring the country a one party state. By late 80's and early 90's, campaign for multiparty system grew strong. The constitution was amended again in 1991 paving way for multiparty system. A general election was held in 1992 and Kanu party led by Moi won the election. Kanu also won the second election in the multiparty era in 1997. The National Rainbow Coalition defeated Kanu in the 2002 general election. Mwai kibaki was inaugurated as Kenya's third president on 30th December 2002. Kenya Holiday CultureFactsHistoryLanguageReligion. Safari Videos ｜ Sitemap ｜ About us ｜ Contact Copyright (C) 2009 enhols.com- Enjoy your Kenya holidays in style. All Rights Reserved. Visit Kenya & enjoy Africa safari holidays.
There are numerous documents and research essays that DEEPLY explore the Islamic secessionist movement in the 10 mile coastal strip of the British Protectorate leading up to and including 1964.
That area of land, which was part of what is now Coastal Province in Kenya where Mombasa lies, became independent on October 5, 1963 from an agreement in the exchange of letters between the Prime Ministers of Kenya and Zanzibar Messrs Jomo Kenyatta and M. Shamte.
It seems the Coastal Registrar's office started calling itself the "Republic of Kenya" BEFORE Dec. 12, 1964 to protect its rights and not be annexed by neighboring Zanzibar.
The facts still line up for the Kenyan birth certificate to be legitimate.
BTW, did you ever vote for Specter?
Durr I think it is legit!!
BRB cleaning drool off chin.
Kenya became a republic two years after Obama was born, yes, and Obama’s original Kenyan birth certificate would not have “Republic of Kenya” on it, but remember that the document is a “certified copy” - not the original.
This certified copy was prepared on February 17, 1964, as indicated on the bottom of the page, and this explains the term “Republic of Kenya” on the form.
So anyone claiming this is a fake because of the date Kenya became a republic simply isn’t thinking things through.
True, but after some judicious digging, we found that the 1963 Kenyan Constitution declared Kenya to be a Republic.
Chapter 6 - Citizenship - Section 87
Persons who became citizens on 12th December, 1963
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on llth December. 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963: Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Kenya by virtue of this subsection if neither of his parents was born in Kenya.
2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall,if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December. 1963.
Both Zero and his father automatically became citizens of the Republic of Kenya on the same day..... December 12th, 1963.
Just like DU to bring a knife to a gun fight.
Internet copies created in Photoshop won’t help. Taitz claims she’s in possession of a physical, paper copy of the BC. If this is true, and if it’s authenticated, time will stop in the U.S. until this is taken care of.
This has to be fake. Look at the No. 47044. 47= 47yrs old, O= Obama, and 44= 44th President.
I hope you are correct.
I posted it just to show how “low” these people will go to keep this traitor in office.
Look how many people here are buying into some of the smoke screens they are throwing up.
Just my two cents, but this place needs a purge.
This web site is dedicated to late Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, the first president of the Republic of Kenya,my inspiration. A very brave and compasionate leader to the end
It became independent on Oct. 17, 1963 nearly TWO months earlier than the rest of Kenya. They called themselves the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963, before the rest of the country was known by the same name:
Very disappointed with Beck on this Constitutional issue.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Here we go:
Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge what are the odds? ).
Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii -- MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR's Birth Certificate to confirm Ann's claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is standard policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.
When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what's referred to as a "knock and nail". That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes -- signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR's door Jan. 27-28.
Obama SR's notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED -- either he didn't want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.
However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.
NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JRs Birth Certificate before he'd be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didnt have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That's when this birth certificate would have been generated -- before trial for the 1964 divorce.
Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.
If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce -- AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.
Furthermore, it's quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate "loopholes" and told her how to file for a Hawaiian "Certificate of Delayed Birth" to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.
As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been "converted" later to a Certificate of Live Birth (long birth certificate) in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a "root document" of the famed Certification of Live Birth (short birth certificate on "Fight the Smears") we see today presented as "proof" of birth of Barack Hussein Obama II, reportedly in Hawaii (note: the abstract Certification of Live Birth certificate did not exist in Hawaii until November 2001).
I cant personally vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested -- likely generated from the 1964 divorce.
It's QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.
Canadian Free Press writer, JB Williams
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
But not ONE member of Americas most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. Its the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOMHAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, THE THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..
Do YOU fear Obama?
A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obamas inelgibility:
Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!
There is also one difference between this document and all the other ones, especially those concocted by the idiots at DU and KOS; the seal. Anyone can photoshop a document and print it out. Some may even attempt to make their counterfeits appear aged by weathering the paper and using old typewriters. But it would take a large amount of resources to fake the official seal. Quite a few people have access to their own or others’ seals, but not an official Kenyan one.
Excellent research — Please keep up the heat. All Freepers must work together to no let this issue die. We all know the State=run media will not touch this story. It is up to us who support a free republic, to pursue, pursue, pursue.
Even if this gets a affirming decision in the courts, State-run media will still recuse themselves from the entire issue. It is sad. State-run media is nothing but pathetic wimps.
No, this is the case before the ex-marine judge who promised that the case would proceed on its merits, if any. He could have thrown it out on a technicality last month but gave Taitz a second chance.
Nothing may be done, but it will cause such confusion and problems that it will be really terrible ,but in good way for us that love our country
No, I just left it blank.
I appeared with him at more than half a dozen campaign fundraisers in 2004 and managed never to shake the man's hand.
Truly a detestable human being.
It’s already deemed a fraud. However, it does look more believable and official than the one the 0bamabots floated on his website.
Hillary will be in Kenya on Barack’s birthday.
Where did that come from...?
Much discussion as to whether it is K.F. Lavendar or G.F. or E.F. Lavendar on the Long thread...and other threads.
That is such good work....and we thank you!
Lavendar, Lavender, W F, W P, who knows. DU told their troops to flood out lots of bogus Kenya BC’s to dilute any truth that may be oozing around.
In my case it was a typo.